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					|  Posted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 20:08    Post subject: Should I go Vista Ultimate 64? POLL |  |  
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					| Any thoughts as to why not?. Got another 2Gb ram that could go in (would total 6Gb) if i would install Vista 64.
 Of course the tedious bit with installing drivers and apps and what not. But what else would be a drawback?
 
 Actually I think this calls for a poll
 and please state why you run what you do.
 
 Cheers guys!.
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					|  Posted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 20:19    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Only thing i had to do with vista 64 for me using 4gb with it was switch out of using 4 sticks of 1gb to 2 sticks of 2gb  now i got 4gb of dominator 1066 ram doing fuck all.. but the 4gb(2 sticks only) of Ozc is working a charm.. 
 My board either A doesnt agree with voltage upping and using the 4 sticks (most recomend u dont and use 2 anyway) or one of my sticks went faulty.. the OS kept saying there was a problem, and when i booted and did the os mem test it showed in the test area that there was a hardware fault.. then on booting to windows i got a pop saying about the memory error, so i thought fuck it ill just buy 2 sticks new.. (aw9d-max board)
 
 other than that x64 vista ultimate here is a nice os, memory management is superb.. I think with 6gb ram you could possibly get away with having no page file as well.. 8 is prob better though..
 
 btw ur poll reads 32 bit and 63 bit lol
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					|  Posted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 20:23    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Dam!  can't change that!...maybe a mod would be so kind. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 20:39    Post subject: |  |  
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					| if you have 4+GB and a 64 bit processor ( obviously you do ) there's no reason why you shouldn't use Vista 64 , it is way faster than 32bit and performs quite well
you start using the true potential of your hardware
 I yet still have to install something that doesn't work because so far everything does , well unless you really miss those 2002 programs
 
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					|  Posted: Thu, 13th Nov 2008 20:43    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Yeah I have no problems with drivers here on 64 vista... And its nice using 64bit Photoshop as well  |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 00:07    Post subject: |  |  
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					| changed it to 64 =)
 and isnt vista64 compatible with 32bit apps? So only drivers should be an issue and since its out so long it actually shouldnt be, right?
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 00:35    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Loving Vista x64 here, it's performance is excellent. No compatibility issues whatsoever running any of the latest games or applications.
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 02:01    Post subject: |  |  
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					| well, xp can still address 3,5 gigs and for people being short on money with an xp-licence still flying around, why not go xp with even 4gigs. It s always a question of how much you want to pay and what you want to do with it. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 02:19    Post subject: |  |  
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					|  	  | Lutzifer wrote: |  	  | xp ... why not go xp | 
 go away
   
 
  	  | Lutzifer wrote: |  	  | It s always a question of how much you want to pay | 
 Pay?
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 02:33    Post subject: |  |  
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					| hahaha, yeah. I know. But i actually have been using a legit copy of xp for years now. A corp pro no less. And i would be willing to buy vista too, if i would see the need to (updating is much less of a hassle with a non-pirated copy). 
Mayb next year =)
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 02:41    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Yeah, I had a legit XP corp too...
 
 ... I had a friend use a program to retrieve the key from his army PC.
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 02:45    Post subject: |  |  
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					| hahahahaha
 you should have make him steal you some firearms and state-secrets as well
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 17:17    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Cheers guys, gonna do it in the morn, nice little project for a Sat morning  . 
 Oh, actually I have to check if my Rampage can take those extra 2 ram sticks, had loads of probs with the ram channels and stuff before I RMAed.
 
 Cheers to moosenoodles for the extra help
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 EDIT: Just installed the 2 ram sticks + removed A LOT of DUST!
  . No prob, so ready for 64bit in the morn.
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					|  Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2008 20:42    Post subject: |  |  
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					|  ) woot! you wont go back..I know im not hehe.. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 06:44    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Coxy, you don't clean your PC regularly? I try to clean it every week or so... |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 08:07    Post subject: |  |  
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					| I clean it like every 2 months or so. Should do it more often I know. Also ran out of compressed air yesterday, should grab another can at work  . |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 09:18    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Oh yeah, these things are life savers! I used to take fans and stuff into parts and just clean all the small parts, but with these compressed air cans, it's very easy. Shame I discovers them so late (about a year ago)... |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 10:38    Post subject: |  |  
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					|  	  | [sYn] wrote: |  	  | 2gb + then 64bit is the way to go.. There is no other opinion that is correct.  | 
 
 used 2GB dual channel and a 4400+ X2 and man, that OS FLLLEEEWWWW, I still like XP better but if I go to vista it's going to be the 64 ultimate again.
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 11:47    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Well just finished installing here and all is fine  . and thank God for "MozBackup"!. Will start to install all the drivers and crap now.
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 13:31    Post subject: |  |  
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					|  	  | iNatan wrote: |  	  | Oh yeah, these things are life savers! I used to take fans and stuff into parts and just clean all the small parts, but with these compressed air cans, it's very easy. Shame I discovers them so late (about a year ago)... | 
 
 I buy the cans also, albeit geebus they do cost like £9 here in maplins.. What I tend to do as well once a mnth is take the unit in a car to the local petrol station and use the high power compressed air lines they can have for like 20p a go... at least you get no water/vapor with the angle you hold the hose at then....
 
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 14:43    Post subject: |  |  
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					|  	  | moosenoodles wrote: |  	  | 
 How's it going coxy....
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 So far all ok...but I had a couple of freezes/BSOD's here. I think it might be one of the RAM sticks that might be fuked.
 
 Luckily I had another pair, so I just swapped the two in the rig with the new ones. Sitting here with the case open at the mo, just doing stuff and checking if it runs stable.
 
 I think I might run Memtest next...or could you guys recommend a better app for that?.
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 14:45    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Run memtest for the night and see (not just one pass, let it run the entire night). It could also be the mobo doing shit. |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 14:52    Post subject: |  |  
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					| I really suspect the Ram, as this started to happen after I installed the extra 2 gig. 
Running 2x2 Gb 1066 Dominators +2x1Gb of the same.
 
 I thought it might have been my OC, but it also happened after I ran the system on stock setting.
 
 I think i will try to get the Memtest pro version and burn a boot disc, that's better no?
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					| Yes, burn to a disk and let it run for a few hours. If it shows no problems, look at the motherboard. You sure you dusted off the memory slots properly before putting the sticks? |  | 
	
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 15:12    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Yep, gave the whole board a good wipe over with the air can.
If it happens again I will try to take out the extra 2Gb of ram and see if it crashes. If it does...well then I will start to panic for sure!.
 
 Will just let the PC run for a bit and see what happens. Will run Memtest later. If it happens it's normally like after 10-20 min.
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 18:52    Post subject: |  |  
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					| WHAT A FUCKING TRIP THIS DAY HAVE BEEN!!!!
 You know what happned after i posted the message above?...Freeze/Crash...tried to boot up again...PSU DEEEEAAAAAD! WTF!
 
 I guess it was that all along. Some of you might know that I bought a PSU from TAGAN maybe 2months ago, NEVER EVER TAGAN again!.
 
 I try to make it short.
 
 I crashed in to my son's room (like a SWAT team that means business), pulled the fracking mouse out of his hand, started to search for PC shops in Frankfurt on his PC (thank God for that PC!)
 
 K&M Elektroniks...CLOSED! (3 a clock Sat) WTF!
 
 ALTECO...calling hot line, took probably 5 min before the woman on the other side could find out that "Sorry, but there are no PSU's in any of our shops in Frankfurt"
   
 MediaMarkt...again switchboard...waiting. "Sure we have a 600W PSU" me "What make is it" "oh...don't know, there is no name on the box" "me WTF!!!!"
 
 I finally found a shop I did not even knew existed called
 ARLT
 So I got a Corsair 750W
 
   just installed it (bloody obvious, no
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 So there it is, one of the most mad Saturdays in a long time.
 Dam am I a PC junkie!.
  
 
  
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					|  Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2008 22:58    Post subject: |  |  
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					| Small update. I had A LOT! of crashes/freezes after I got the new PSU...luckily I had a "Acronis True Image 2009" image form about 5 days ago. Ran a "restore" and now all is ok...but back on 32bit  . I wonder...Will give 64bit another go in the morn. It has been a long day and what not...Oh well, at least no crashes any more... |  | 
	
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