Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Nov 2008 20:41    Post subject: Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy
Anyone tried it out yet? Any comments?
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 02:36    Post subject:
listened to it yesterday and actually liked it. It s a mixture of modern and classic rock with more good songs than bad ones imho. I thought it would be shit and was pleasantly surprised. But i heard alot of people hating it, so better make up your own mind. Its only a download away anyways Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 03:22    Post subject:
yeah, I actually don't mind a few songs on it ... title track, Shackler's Revenge, IRS, Better, Catcher in the Rye ... all pretty decent Smile Keep in mind I was a pretty big fan back in the day, probably when you were in diapers x_dror Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 08:11    Post subject:
Its ouuuuttttt mothafuckas!

Im a fan for a loong time now and i really think Axl, Dizzy & the rest made a really good job. Its like mixing some of the old AFD record and something totally new with sample sounds.
Too bad "Oh My God" is not on the record - its a pretty good song (is on the End Of Days soundtrack).
I was listening to leaks for some time now but since i got the record i noticed that every song is better mainly because some drum tracks had been changed (Chinese Democracy, TWAT (love the title Very Happy ) and some others). Also some of the songs are fucking epic - my favourite's would be Prostitute, If The World, Sorry, Street Of Dreams (early called The Blues) and..actually every single song besides Scraped.

Really excellent job, after 17 fucking years. Can't wait for the 2 more records (Axl announced a trilogy of records but...we'll see Very Happy ).

New GnR is a totally new experience and definitely in a good way.

EDIT : This I Love is a masterpiece Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri, 21st Nov 2008 17:34    Post subject:
Just tried it out.
Few decent ones, but nothing too special. I don't know... maybe it will grow on me.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2008 05:45    Post subject:
I just wish Axl hadn't put the GnR name on this. It ain't GnR. Just more of Axl's rambling.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2008 07:24    Post subject:
Axl is a dick. Fortunately I can listen to music without relating to the source. That's why I still love Metallica.


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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Nov 2008 09:03    Post subject:
He is def a dick and an asshole. And i treat this album as a solo album because in fact that's what it is and if you listen to Use Your Illusion (especially II) you can hear what direction was Axl trying to take - November Rain and Estranged are his songs hence all the pretty songs on ChD (This I Love, Sorry, Prostitute, and on one of the next albums - The General).

That's what the album should be considered as - The Axl Rose solo album. In that case the album is fucking sweet. A mix of Appetite's power (ChD, Shackler's Revenge and more) with more new wave-electronic sounds plus nice solos (despite Slash's absence).
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 17:49    Post subject:
Pure shit, should have be named "The Axl Rose Project" instead of GnR, this is a disgrace to the GnR name.
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 18:44    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
Pure shit, should have be named "The Axl Rose Project" instead of GnR, this is a disgrace to the GnR name.


Seems like some prominent 'old GnR' member disagrees.
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Nov 2008 08:04    Post subject:
Kommando wrote:
Pure shit, should have be named "The Axl Rose Project" instead of GnR, this is a disgrace to the GnR name.

Exactly, style of songs (more soft songs than hard rock) suggests that Rose is the one who invented most of the songs (if not all) but what did u expect if only Axl and Dizzy are left of the original band?
It shouldn't be called G n' R but still IMO opinion after hearing the ChD record i think about 75% of the old GNR style was Axl voice and attitude and then Slash' guitar playing.

Also looking at Rose's latest behaviour (no interviews, not joining any press conferences etc.) i admire him that he just does what he fucking likes. He doesn't care that the album was due to be released since 1996 (i think) and im sure the record company did pressure him. This aint about flashin in the media and releasing some shit that would sound like shit.
That's what i like about him - he's all about music. I see that on shows (bootlegs actually), hear that on the record.

Damn, i wish i had my guitar so i could play some of the new GnR (what a rhyme!) Rolling Eyes Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Nov 2008 17:57    Post subject:
Didnt he have surgery on his vocals a couple of years ago because he fucked em up with all the high pitched screaming? I could have swore I saw it on the news


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 09:06    Post subject:
I heard something about his surgery but was it because of the high pitched screaming? Can't remember that, i though it was some kind of a health problem rather than his usual screaming...
I only heard that now there are breaks throughout the shows (usually when the guitarists are playing solos between songs etc.) and then Axl is going backstage and inhaling pure oxygen through a mask or some shit like that.

Still, he is totally cut himself from the media after their best era so right now there are only gossips actually
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 17:24    Post subject:
wawrzul wrote:
I heard something about his surgery but was it because of the high pitched screaming? Can't remember that, i though it was some kind of a health problem rather than his usual screaming...
I only heard that now there are breaks throughout the shows (usually when the guitarists are playing solos between songs etc.) and then Axl is going backstage and inhaling pure oxygen through a mask or some shit like that.

Still, he is totally cut himself from the media after their best era so right now there are only gossips actually


naw, it was because he fucked his voice up badly because of the way he sung when Guns N Roses were popular


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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Nov 2008 08:08    Post subject:
Wow, then he is fucking determined. Its easily noticeable than on ChD and recent shows he has a different voice than in the classic era. His screams are less ear-hurting now.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 01:19    Post subject:
man Shackler's Revenge is a kick ass song. the low verse singing reminds me of the sopranos theme song and the chorus is sweet as fuck.. its ashame this song wont be played more on radio stations. gnr modernized.. sweet

oh and the guitar shit is off the rails


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 01:21    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:

oh and the guitar shit is off the rails


Probably because Buckethead is playing on the album Smile

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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 01:51    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Newty182 wrote:

oh and the guitar shit is off the rails


Probably because Buckethead is playing on the album Smile

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I noticed his style only on 'Shackler's Revenge' and 'Better'. Too bad he didn't stay in the band a little longer to finish the album.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 03:52    Post subject:
wawrzul wrote:
Wow, then he is fucking determined. Its easily noticeable than on ChD and recent shows he has a different voice than in the classic era. His screams are less ear-hurting now.


thats what fucked his voice up. those high pitched screams that he used to be able to carry for a good amount of time.
Ruined his vocal cords.

Remember a couple of years ago he preformed at the MTV Music Awards and it sounded horrible. Thats why. Thats what convinced him to get his vocal cords fized.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 14:38    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
_SiN_ wrote:
Newty182 wrote:

oh and the guitar shit is off the rails


Probably because Buckethead is playing on the album Smile

One of the best guitarists alive Very Happy


I noticed his style only on 'Shackler's Revenge' and 'Better'. Too bad he didn't stay in the band a little longer to finish the album.


Yeah i don't know what songs he played, all know is that he's on some of em Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Dec 2008 19:04    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
man Shackler's Revenge is a kick ass song. the low verse singing reminds me of the sopranos theme song and the chorus is sweet as fuck.. its ashame this song wont be played more on radio stations. gnr modernized.. sweet

oh and the guitar shit is off the rails


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Dec 2008 20:10    Post subject:
I have the album but i have only listened to part of the album (due to me being sick). But i like what i've heard so far.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 06:24    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
Newty182 wrote:
man Shackler's Revenge is a kick ass song. the low verse singing reminds me of the sopranos theme song and the chorus is sweet as fuck.. its ashame this song wont be played more on radio stations. gnr modernized.. sweet

oh and the guitar shit is off the rails


it's fun to play in Rock Band 2 Razz


lol what does the misses have to say about you playing rockband on a 5.1 system at nite man? lol

or do you only play it when she's out?


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Dec 2008 06:39    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
nouseforaname wrote:
Newty182 wrote:
man Shackler's Revenge is a kick ass song. the low verse singing reminds me of the sopranos theme song and the chorus is sweet as fuck.. its ashame this song wont be played more on radio stations. gnr modernized.. sweet

oh and the guitar shit is off the rails


it's fun to play in Rock Band 2 Razz


lol what does the misses have to say about you playing rockband on a 5.1 system at nite man? lol

or do you only play it when she's out?


lol yeah, Rock Band or Guitar Hero I usually only play when I'm alone or if I have some friends over drinking.

It's not just that I like to turn it up loud, but she laughs at me for getting so in to it Razz


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