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pole91
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CaptainCox
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Have happened in the past, but they are removed pretty fast.
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pole91
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 17:37 Post subject: |
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So...let's see!...& Hope!
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 17:38 Post subject: |
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Renaming the EXE won't work as that'll cause LIVE to fail and thus the game won't start at all, plus there's two EXE files though I'm unsure which one is the launcher one and which one is the game EXE.
(Both stay open after starting the game as well, if you alt tab and close either one the other closes as well.)
Might be possible to rename a bunch of files to get LIVE working again though but I've no idea how well that'll work.
EDIT: Main EXE is obviously "GTAIV.exe" as the Live files are tied to it with "LaunchGTAIV.exe" being the launcher responsible for starting everything.
(Both start the social club application so it needs to run as well before you can enter the game.)
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 17:40 Post subject: |
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| digitalman42 wrote: | You have no room to talk about ATI and Quality. there most recent cards 4850 and 4870 overheat like crazy, everyone has to crank up the fan to sound like a turbine jet engine, or get artifacts.
| Minion wrote: | of course it favors nvidia graphics cards, they're the corporate whores of the graphics card market. seeing lots of reports from people on ATI cards suffering.
the guy mentioning nvidia and quality in the same sentence made me laugh. guess he doesn't remember all the thousands of defective cards nvidia shipped, then denied they existed for weeks... |
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Yea ati has probs with crappy drivers. BUT if it wasn't for ATI, YOU'D still be paying $600 for a GTX280. Nvidia is the problem.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 17:43 Post subject: |
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Is there no CFG/TXT files to change GFX here and there ???
Change the GFX manually ???
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 17:46 Post subject: |
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I answered that a page or two back, there's three configuration files in a folder inside the "My Documents\UserName" or "User\UserName" (XP or Vista) but they're encoded or encrypted or compressed or something else so can't be viewed or edited, everything will have to be done in the actual game.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 17:48 Post subject: |
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obviously when they put gf8600 as a recommended gpu in systeqm requirements and 4870x2 can't play it properly on PROPER resolutions it's a lying and can be treated accordingly in courts.
the ongoing "Vista capable" case rings any bells? M$ has already lost so far, next appeal in february afaik
yes
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JBeckman
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Wasn't the 8600 MINUMUM recommendation or was that even lower?
(Ofcourse what IS the min and recommended settings anyway, "min" usually means lowest possible though req can be a bit vague but I see it as a balance between lowest and highest - medium perhaps - especially as certain devs or publishers try to trim them a bit.)
EDIT: I'm nowhere near skilled enough to work with actual code, I learn pretty quick but I'm no guru or programmer, most is just self-learnt from what I've read from others or experimented with myself.
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Oh and the X2 card is basically two 4870 cards on one board but still relies on Crossfire to function properly (For the two GPU's with their 1GB of RAM to work together) and Crossfire (And SLI) require up-to-date drivers with optimized and correct profiles for the latest titles (That's how most of them are recognized, via their EXE filename.) in order to provide decent scaling and enabling certain techniques and options (Such as forcing AA in Oblivion for example or AA in UE3 titles to name two recent ATI tricks)
When this doesn't function you basically work with a single card configuration so right now the X2 works as a 4870 with 1GB of RAM so it's actually no wonder that the 260 or 280 or even the standard 4870 card is currently a bit faster.
(Same with proper SLI/Crossfire if there's no active profile, it won't work well at all most of the time.)
As Epsilon said you can either rename the EXE filename to one that the current driver "knows" in order to force enabling those things (Can cause issues) or you can enable certain optimizations to try and force it anyhow.
(Catalyst AI handles this for example and will try to work that way when set to "Advanced" however this can cause visual glitches and even display artifacts or crashes as it also tries to optimize performance in various ways.)
(Most of the time though there's a very subtle difference between Catalyst AI on standard and with it set to advanced, turning it off disables Crossfire scaling on a X2 card altogether though and isn't recommended, unsure how it affects normal crossfire.)
Again though that's mostly from what I've read from other sources.
For ATI this should correct itself in the 8.12 (Obviously it'll also help single cards like the 4850/4870) or at worst the 9.1 drivers, NVIDIA probably already have proper profiles set up in their latest drivers which is the 180.60 or 180.70 CUDA beta drivers. (180.70 being reported as a bit more recent but also a bit buggier.)
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 17:52 Post subject: |
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| vespa wrote: | | Still no GTA4 gift in my PM, what's wrong with you SpykeZ! Get to it, chop chop! |
Me and some other dude all ready have dibs on it, sry dude.SpykeZ is a cool dude.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 17:59 Post subject: |
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@JBeckman:
No 8600GT was actually the recommended:
Minimum System Requirements
OS: Windows XP/Vista
Processor: Intel Core 2 DUO @ 1.8 GHz/AMD Athlon 64 X2 @ 2.4 GHz
Memory: 1.5 GB
Hard Drive: 16 GB Free
Video Memory: 256 MB (nVidia GeForce 7900/ATI Radeon X1900)
Recommended System Requirements
OS: Windows XP/Vista
Processor: Intel Core 2 QUAD @ 2.4 GHz/AMD Phenom X3 @ 2.1 GHz
Memory: 2 GB (2.5 GB for Vista)
Hard Drive: 18 GB Free
Video Memory: 512 MB (nVidia GeForce 8600/ATI 3870)
Sound Card: DirectX Compatible
SRC: http://www.vgrequirements.info/?p=7727
EDIT: neon123 was quicker
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:00 Post subject: |
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Anyone from the US or Canada willing to buy the game for me at Direct2Drive?
I will pay in advance and a total of 70 dollars over paypal, or whichever you prefer. In return, I want my email address to be used during registration and checkout and I'm only interested in those who are trusted around here and with atleast 1000+ posts.
PM if you're interested. Thanks. =)
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:01 Post subject: |
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| Karmeck wrote: | | Me and some other dude all ready have dibs on it, sry dude.SpykeZ is a cool dude. |
Shush, go away with your logic and reason.
Welcome to the Politically Correct States of America.
Please turn your mind in to the nearest oppressed minority pressure group.
It will be returned to you once we've decided what you can think.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:15 Post subject: |
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strange. no one is able to crack this game? it's the same DRM with paul.dll like others dead space, warhead or red alert 3 then. i'm confusing
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:19 Post subject: |
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| mails wrote: | | strange. no one is able to crack this game? it's the same DRM with paul.dll like others dead space, warhead or red alert 3 then. i'm confusing |
Maby crack for GTA will appear in 3-4 weeks? Like Alone In The Dark?
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:21 Post subject: |
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| mails wrote: | | strange. no one is able to crack this game? it's the same DRM with paul.dll like others dead space, warhead or red alert 3 then. i'm confusing |
It's released several hours ago. wait abit
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:22 Post subject: |
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| cilalex wrote: | | mails wrote: | | strange. no one is able to crack this game? it's the same DRM with paul.dll like others dead space, warhead or red alert 3 then. i'm confusing |
Maby crack for GTA will appear in 3-4 weeks? Like Alone In The Dark? |
I dont think its gonna take that long. this is a massive, major title! crackers must be creaming their pants at the thought of rls'ing this first.
| baronka wrote: |
It's released several hours ago. wait abit |
BS
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:22 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It's released several hours ago. wait abit |
only fake are been released. just now hope that it don't will take the same long time of alone in the dark or sacred 2
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:24 Post subject: |
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I mean official rretail release/online activation.
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Epsilon
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| JBeckman wrote: | Renaming the EXE won't work as that'll cause LIVE to fail and thus the game won't start at all, plus there's two EXE files though I'm unsure which one is the launcher one and which one is the game EXE.
(Both stay open after starting the game as well, if you alt tab and close either one the other closes as well.)
Might be possible to rename a bunch of files to get LIVE working again though but I've no idea how well that'll work.
EDIT: Main EXE is obviously "GTAIV.exe" as the Live files are tied to it with "LaunchGTAIV.exe" being the launcher responsible for starting everything.
(Both start the social club application so it needs to run as well before you can enter the game.) |
Ahh well, it was worth a try  While I have the game I haven't played it myself. |
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:32 Post subject: |
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so this use online activation securom DRM + microsoft LIVE? bad thing
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:39 Post subject: |
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tommorow i'm gonna buy it because i don't wanna wait for the crack for 3 weeks
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:41 Post subject: |
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it's the first game that go to use the live with online activation. this sucks anyway. dead space or red alert 3 or warhead don't use live. i guess that a crack is hard to do just for this
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2008 18:42 Post subject: |
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| rshizle wrote: | | tommorow i'm gonna buy it because i don't wanna wait for the crack for 3 weeks |
seeing the bugs and low performances on some high end hardware, i'll wait to test it
if my pc can run it, if the multiplayer woth it, i'll buy it (30-35€ max)
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