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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:22    Post subject:
xGAME007 wrote:
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xGAME007 wrote:
what specs you have???

haw to use m own songs in game, i copied in user music, set radio station on independent, but it's not playing, and how to chane songd, in option it says "b" and "n", i press b or n but the sings wont change...help?


You gotta scan in audio options. And put -novblank in a .txt file called commandline in GTA folder.


this.txt file commandline, there is no one in gta4 folder, so i gues i must create him or...sorry for this maybe stupid questions:)


yep, one of the pages earlier it tells you how to create it and what to copy n paste into it m8


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:27    Post subject:
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does it help with performance turning vsync off ?

Of course it does. Vsync will always lower framerates to coincide with the refreshrate of your monitor.

By the way, has anyone had any problems with Textures being on High with a graphics card with only 512MB? I've been playing for an hour with textures on High and the fps is identical to whether textures are on low or medium so I'd like to keep it on high but I want to make sure it's not going to crash in the middle of a mission.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:31    Post subject:
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BloodAngel wrote:
does it help with performance turning vsync off ?

Of course it does. Vsync will always lower framerates to coincide with the refreshrate of your monitor.


My lcd has a refresh rate of 60. Woho 60+ fps here I come GTA4!!! Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:35    Post subject:
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BloodAngel wrote:
does it help with performance turning vsync off ?

Of course it does. Vsync will always lower framerates to coincide with the refreshrate of your monitor.


My lcd has a refresh rate of 60. Woho 60+ fps here I come GTA4!!! Rolling Eyes

But if your PC can't produce 60 (31-59), vsync will cap the fps to 30. If your PC can't produce 30 (15-29), it will cap to 15. If your PC can't produce 15 (11-14), it will cap to 10. Get the problem?

Vsync is only good if your PC produces 60+ almost always and you want to prevent tearing.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:36    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
BalleKnut wrote:
red_avatar wrote:

Of course it does. Vsync will always lower framerates to coincide with the refreshrate of your monitor.


My lcd has a refresh rate of 60. Woho 60+ fps here I come GTA4!!! Rolling Eyes

But if your PC can't produce 60 (31-59), vsync will cap the fps to 30. If your PC can't produce 30 (15-29), it will cap to 15. If your PC can't produce 15 (11-14), it will cap to 10. Get the problem?

Vsync is only good if your PC produces 60+ almost always and you want to prevent tearing.


Exactly. So what pc produces a higher fps number in gta4 than it's monitor's refresh rate?
Meaning turning off vsync has no effect...


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:37    Post subject:
That's assuming they don't use triple buffering. Which would be stupid, but not surprising considering the shoddyness of the port job.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:39    Post subject:
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Exactly. So what pc produces a higher fps number in gta4 than it's monitor's refresh rate?
Meaning turning off vsync has no effect...

Read again my post. Disabling it means, you'll be able to run it in the middle fpses instead of only in 60,30,15,12,10. Smile You'll be able for instance to run at 26,17,28,31,48.


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:39    Post subject:
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It means, you'll be able to run it in the middle fpses instead of only in 60,30,15,12,10. Smile You'll be able for instance to run at 26,17,28,31,48.


Oh man, I'm too drunk for this.. lol Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:51    Post subject:
can only try vsync off ...check fps and then turn back on if needed.

Anyoen else got the new 180.84 driver on and had their ammo counter vanish ?


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:53    Post subject:
Read the last few pages. It's a known issue with the driver............
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:55    Post subject:
Mine is still there with 180.84.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:55    Post subject:
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Read again my post. Disabling it means, you'll be able to run it in the middle fpses instead of only in 60,30,15,12,10. Smile You'll be able for instance to run at 26,17,28,31,48.


?
never heard that before. source?
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:56    Post subject:
Lol I just ran into a guy and he said "LOL" and "noob". Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:57    Post subject:


hey check this shit out


yes
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:57    Post subject:
think he means if you running at 30fps...but capable of running at 35fps....having vsync off will allow you that bit more ?


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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Dec 2008 23:59    Post subject:
I can run 35 fps fine with vsync on.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:00    Post subject:
ahhaa lol cnz grinhurt
ive seen that once in some other forum, but still cracks me up.


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:00    Post subject:
well that was an example... maybe it will allow you to run at 40fps with it off...dunno


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:01    Post subject:
yes vsync off is known to give some performance boosts in most applications.

i don't know the reason for that but i doubt that the fps get capped at 5/10/15 whatever fps w/ vsync on. vsync should limit the fps to your monitor refresh rate, nothing more.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:03    Post subject:
Vsync will only display a frame when it's fully drawn. Thats why, if you turn vsync off, you see tears in your screen: the part just above the tear was drawn on a previous frame while the part that comes after is a different frame. Vsync makes sure that the entire screen is one frame but the down side is a small delay. I never turn Vsync on - the game feels much smoother without it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:03    Post subject:
funame wrote:
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Read again my post. Disabling it means, you'll be able to run it in the middle fpses instead of only in 60,30,15,12,10. Smile You'll be able for instance to run at 26,17,28,31,48.


?
never heard that before. source?

http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/faq_vsync-12379/index.html?s=ece6c4c0c273a125b997943a088375a2&
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:04    Post subject:
just updated my dotnet and after a pc restart... my LaunchGTAIV.exe has vanished !!!

WTF !!!


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:08    Post subject:
thx
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:11    Post subject:
now
why does it crash with -novblank? Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:47    Post subject:
It needs sp3 for xp (that is for fatal error at startup)
I ran the original (renting one original from videoclub),the installation procedure is too big and boring (too many things) but the important thing.Game runs without drops or somaething like that.But it seems too heavy for my pc (c2d 2.4 8800 gtx).I think it runs at 25-35 fps.If rockstar release a patch may be the frame rate will take a boost but for now its playable for me (i dont know what they are doing with cracks,loaders and etc,i see that all these things probably destroynig this game until someone will find one proper crack)


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 00:57    Post subject:
Rockstar has pwned teh scene.

Dust off your crystal ball and tell us when its comin out.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 01:02    Post subject:
The loader works just fine.. its the game that got the fekkin problemo..
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=ST&f=240&t=380088
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 01:03    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
funame wrote:
Quote:

Read again my post. Disabling it means, you'll be able to run it in the middle fpses instead of only in 60,30,15,12,10. Smile You'll be able for instance to run at 26,17,28,31,48.


?
never heard that before. source?

http://www.blazingpc.com/forum/showthread.php/faq_vsync-12379/index.html?s=ece6c4c0c273a125b997943a088375a2&


This is not true. If you enable vsync frames above i.e 60hz will be cut (or buffered) but every single frame below 60hz will be shown. You say, if my gfx card is able to render 59 fps while vsync is enabled it will be cut down to 30 fps ? Nonsense! Maybe that blazingpc dude mixed something with interlace and progressive scan on tv/console or whatever but what he wrote is bullshit.

Turning vsync on or off in GTA4 shouldnt show a lot of difference since you wont hit 60fps very often.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 01:10    Post subject:
FastMemFirst wrote:
This is not true. If you enable vsync frames above i.e 60hz will be cut (or buffered) but every single frame below 60hz will be shown. You say, if my gfx card is able to render 59 fps while vsync is enabled it will be cut down to 30 fps ? Nonsense! Maybe that blazingpc dude mixed something with interlace and progressive scan on tv/console or whatever but what he wrote is bullshit.

Turning vsync on or off in GTA4 shouldnt show a lot of difference since you wont hit 60fps very often.

I will not argue. Google the subject, it's a known "issue" (but logical if you think about it). Every game I've tried with vsync on my previous, less powerful cards has done this (60,30,20,15), but you are entitled to your opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Dec 2008 01:30    Post subject:
rockstar 1 scene 0 for now and with football manager 09 2-0 for devs Laughing
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