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| sway187 wrote: | Whine and bitch all you but but this is an amzing game.
Just completed it.
Upgrade your computer, get latest drivers or hush up.
I'll give it 9/10 |
I hate to burst your bubble but UPGRADE Computer ???
Statistics
Average FPS: 25.61
Duration: 12.85 sec
CPU Usage: 11%
System memory usage: 28%
Video memory usage: 87%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 800 x 600 (56 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: High
View Distance: 32
Detail Distance: 67
Hardware
Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate
Service Pack 1
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Video Driver version: 180.84
Audio Adapter: Speakers (2- SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio)
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X7460 @ 2.66GHz
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X7460 @ 2.66GHz
WTF, this game is supposed to a HELL of alot faster than this shit...
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:42 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:46 Post subject: |
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Its a decent port.
Most people are trying to play the game on high setting just because they have some alien geeked out PC.
People think that just because they get more fps in Crysis that its a poor port.
News flas people, this game has a hella of a lot more things running in the background than crysis.
Set the graphics to medium or something.
If your having technical problems then try updating GFX drivers or somthing.
people moaning because their not getting 60+fps
Im getting around 30-40fps and that fine enough for me.
Come off your high horse.
Last edited by sway187 on Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:57; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:50 Post subject: |
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| NecroViolator wrote: | | sway187 wrote: | Whine and bitch all you but but this is an amzing game.
Just completed it.
Upgrade your computer, get latest drivers or hush up.
I'll give it 9/10 |
I hate to burst your bubble but UPGRADE Computer ???
Statistics
Average FPS: 25.61
Duration: 12.85 sec
CPU Usage: 11%
System memory usage: 28%
Video memory usage: 87%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 800 x 600 (56 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: High
View Distance: 32
Detail Distance: 67
Hardware
Microsoft® Windows Vista" Ultimate
Service Pack 1
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Video Driver version: 180.84
Audio Adapter: Speakers (2- SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio)
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X7460 @ 2.66GHz
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X7460 @ 2.66GHz
WTF, this game is supposed to a HELL of alot faster than this shit... |
Is that a geforce 8800GTS 320 or 640?
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 14:53 Post subject: |
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I completed it with about 30FPS on medium settings and the gameplay, story etc.. was really good imo but still, it is a shit port.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 15:09 Post subject: |
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| sway187 wrote: | Its a decent port.
Most people are trying to play the game on high setting just because they have some alien geeked out PC.
People think that just because they get more fps in Crysis that its a poor port.
News flas people, this game has a hella of a lot more things running in the background than crysis.
Set the graphics to medium or something.
If your having technical problems then try updating GFX drivers or somthing.
people moaning because their not getting 60+fps
Im getting around 30-40fps and that fine enough for me.
Come off your high horse. |
It's not a decent port at all, me and many more people have done the same thing, used hardware that more than exceeds the minimum requirements and the game still dips under 20fps even with all settings on LOW, i don't mind dropping my settings down to get a game playable if i've not met the requirements but i'm using hardware that only came out last year and i can't get a smooth game with the res on 800x600 and low settings. It's a crap port.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 15:21 Post subject: |
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| NecroViolator wrote: | I change ALL options to 1 and 0 and STILL get only max 28-29 FPS... No difference...LOL...
WTF... FUBAR FTW !.
8800 GTS 1Gig... ASUS...With built in Cock Extender...
I play :
Res = 1024x768
View Distance = 1
Object Dist = 50
Cars = 50 max 60
Shadows = 0
AND still get only 29 FPS... No difference at all...  ...
Also HUGE LAG, Freezes, slow downs and GOD only knows how many STDs...
There are no language in this world that can explain how fucked up this game is... |
maybe the problem lies with the xeon?
| Quote: | | PC awesome button = Uninstall! |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 15:45 Post subject: |
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Doubt that very much because every game/program I use flies like light speeds...
This game just goes ultra crappy...
Crappy port or programming I think...
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 16:07 Post subject: |
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Sway, bud, it's a shit port. One of the worst in recent memory -- and how people with GTX2xx and QC procs can ACCEPT it running at 25-30fps is beyond me.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 16:42 Post subject: |
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why everybody got the club..
:rolleyes:
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 17:07 Post subject: |
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put this in your shortcut and all the rendering objects (buildings) problem arround you is disappear
-percentvidmem 99
|| Case: TJ05S-T || Psu: Seasonic S12-600 || Mobo: EVGA 750i Sli || Proc: Q6600 || Gfx: 2 x 8800GT SLI || Ram: 4 GB ||
|| Hdd: 2 x 74 GB Raptor Raid0 + 1 x SS 1TB + 1 x WD 250 GB + 1 x WD 400 GB || CRT: P225F || KEYB: G15 || Os: Win 7 x64 || XFI-Platinium
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 00:14 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | BloodAngel wrote: | | so i just install the patch and it works..nothin extra needs to be done ? (pirated version) |
Well, if its a cracked patch then yes.
If its the official patch for the legal version, i dont think it will work (could be wrong tho). Or it may screw things up even more man.
Cuz the only way I know to get the patch is to sign on to windows live while on the main screen of GTA and it downloads auto.
Plus, before you patch, you need to install a GFWL (Games For Windows Live) update.
So far, I havent seen a cracked patch. I'll check for ya tho.
EDIT
Sorry dude, no crack for the patch. The patch changes the version of the exe to 1.0.1.0 or something like that and if it was out there, i would have found it.
Still, it may work. Try it. Worse that can happen is that you'll have to reinstall GTA |
Thanks for the info and looking m8.
So us that use the pirated version cannot install the patch as it will stop the game from working ?
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 01:17 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 01:22 Post subject: |
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how there is a WS10 error with razor1911 release if you launch the game....
the 1.01 patch install fines if you replace originals but then when you put back the 1.0 razor crack it wont load
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 01:29 Post subject: |
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This works fine for me
Razor release.
1. Install game
2. copy over razor crack
3. install patch
4. done
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 01:30 Post subject: |
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Don't use the GTAIV.exe -- just use the 1911.dll and LaunchGTAIV.exe files -- AFTER you've patched it.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 04:52 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | Just so you know Microsoft already confirmed GTA IV as a candidate for Microsoft Windows Live Marketplace content such as DLC's and other extras.
They mentioned quite a few titles besides that as well with the first one being Fallout 3.
(Those three Jan, Feb, Mar DLC's)
Requires a separate download (The Live release previously is know known as a redistributable for just the core functionality, Marketplace does require the latest version of it to work as well and will install it if it's not already installed.)
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Is it free? Like do I have to pay to download Marketplace and any DLC for say GTAIV? |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 04:54 Post subject: |
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| Newty182 wrote: | Yeah, ok sway187. I will just go and do that now. lets see, Core i7, X58 mobo and a GTX280. whats that £600 to play GTA4 at 60FPS 
Oh forgot the DDR3. thats another £80 |
I'd go for a Quad, way better if your going to upgrade. I know you were joking but still, go for a quad. |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 04:56 Post subject: |
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IM gunna try something that apparently improves mem allocation 10 fold...its a trick as in it tricks GTA into thinking your running the lowest rez when your running the highest.
If it works, I will report back right away guys.
Should take me 15 mins or so
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 05:36 Post subject: |
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I decided not to try this cuz my game runs fine at a nice res so why fuck with a good thing. But some of you gjuys may be interested in this.
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Steps:
1. Get rid of -nomemrestrict or any current commandlines you have. Run the game and let it die. When you run the game, go to the graphic options, turn your resolution to 800x600 or 1024x768 or whatever you want the reflection maps/resolution based quality to be at, I did 800x600 mainly because it looks simular to the rest and will give you the most performance. Use the rest of your memory budget in draw distance.etc.
2. If you cannot acheive the graphical settings you want with your currently memory budget do this next step. If you can, then you can skip this step.
make commandline.txt or append -availablevidmem (multiplier):
This command works like this, say I have 256mb vram. -availablevidmem 2.0 would make it say I have 512mb vram, its a multiplier.
So for getting our settings as we want it lets make a budget of 512mb vram, so -availablevidmem 2.0.
Open GTAIV, set resolution in the ingame settings to 800x600, set rest of the options to whatever you want (be reasonable).
Now continue to the next step.
3. Now you have your game set as you want it, but in a f-ugly resoltion, but we will fix that. Next step is to trick GTAIV, even people with 512mb graphic cards or even 1gb, this is even useful for them.
One of my buddies with a 8800GTX loves this tweak because it allows him to get much higher frames with very little to no graphical loss.
So now lets say all our desired settings ingame @ 800x600, use 650Mb. Ok. But say were now using a 1GB card so it says 650/1024Mb. This is a problem now because if we force -height 1080 -width 1920. We will end up with our ingame options changing to 1920x1080 giving us way more slowdowns because R* starts using that dam scaling reflection maps.etc with resolution.
So what we need to do now is limit the memory GTAIV sees to exactly the amount to run our game in 800x600 (or whatever quality refection maps.etc you want) with our desired settings.
So lets go back to our dilemma, we have a 1GB graphic card and the game only takes up 650mb with the settings we want in 800x600.
We can figure this out by doing some simple math.
1GB Card (650mb desired settings): 650/1024 = 0.635 (its 0.634 but give a tiny bit extra, just like a couple megabytes).
So you would use -availablevidmem 0.635 that would make the game detect you only have 650mb ram which barely fits the features you want in 800x600.
So now once we have figured that out your commandline.txt or your shortcut appending should look like this (depending on what resolution you want/your vidmem.etc):
-height 1080 -width 1920 -availablevidmem 0.65
and maybe you add stuff like (-framelimit, or -noblank or whatever).
*BUT DO NOT USE ANY UN-RESTRICTION (this includes the nomemrestrict and norestrictions or anything like that)!
4. Now when we start up our game. We will be in our desired resolution, and when we look in the game options it will say 800x600, even though we are in a way higher resolution and all your settings will be how you want them and your memory budget will be exactly the right amount or similar like 650/650 or 742/746.etc
Funny thing here you wont be able to go back cuz it will detect your memory budget is to low and the game is forcing a higher res, so you might not be able to leave the options screen now, so alt tab, and close the game. If all your settings looked right and it said 800x600 but was clearly in a higher res. Then you did everything right, if not, go retry.
5. Now restart the game and play. Yay, good fps, cheated GTAIV to not up the reflection quality with the resolution.
Additional Speed: If you happen to be running Vista x86/x64 and you have a directx10 capable graphic card. Do what elecg2 figured out. I tried creating empty/easy HLSL shaders and putting them in GTAIV to get rid of shadows and stuff but that didn't work.
However by doing what elecg2 tried, I got a huge performance increase,
Go to GTAIV folder, go into common, then shaders.
Backup everything in there <- !!!
Then copy the contents of win32_30_atidx10, and paste them into win32_30_nv8. Or just rename the folders, whatever makes you happy.
That gave me a significant performance boost and I have no graphical problems or abnormalities. Try it, if it causes you problems or decreased performance then just put it back to normal. With these steps you can get your game running beautifully in no time, or at least better than before.
Enjoy.
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Let me know how it turns out
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| Posted: Thu, 18th Dec 2008 08:04 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Newty182 wrote: | Yeah, ok sway187. I will just go and do that now. lets see, Core i7, X58 mobo and a GTX280. whats that £600 to play GTA4 at 60FPS
Oh forgot the DDR3. thats another £80 |
I'd go for a Quad, way better if your going to upgrade. I know you were joking but still, go for a quad. |
Have been thinking about it but then again i might just wait for the i7 prices to drop and for new mobo's. within a year C2Q/Duo's will cost next to nothing because of the i7's massive performance increase. I feel really sorry for anyone who bought an extreme just before the i7 was released.. must be gutting.
Looks like an i7 is not far off needed to get decent frames from GTA4.
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