Grand Theft Auto IV
Page 68 of 156 Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 67, 68, 69 ... 154, 155, 156  Next
heckknow




Posts: 541

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:23    Post subject:
xbox 360 has 3 cores. the more cores the better it runs. since it originally developed for a 3 core system. so more than 3 cores makes it run better. i wouldn't play this game if you have a single or dual core. wait until you update your system to four cores then try it again.

i did. i went back and played dark messiah of might and magic with my quad core system that i have now. back then (2 years ago?), i had a crappy system that could barely play it. so, i shelved it. now that i have a good system (q6600, 8800 gt 512 mb, 8 gb ram, vista x64 sp1), it plays smooth as silk. i'm also revisiting morrowind, oblivion, gothic 3, etc (old games that don't play well on my old system).
Back to top
sway187




Posts: 67

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:35    Post subject:
Comparing the 360's 3 Cores to PC cores is kinda ridiculous...


I cant be fucked to explain it right now but im sure some one else will.
Back to top
moosenoodles




Posts: 18411

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:37    Post subject:
no i wont but its stupid, because I have zero problems running it on a dual core system..
Back to top
sabin1981
Mostly Cursed



Posts: 87805

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:40    Post subject:
@Hecknow

I ran Dark Messiah, maximum settings, flawlessly on my 7900GTO and my dual-core Opteron. And as far as the TriCore 360 processor? PowerPC <<<<<<< x86 architecture.
Back to top
heckknow




Posts: 541

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:47    Post subject:
sabin1981 -- my old system suck bad (something like a dual core amd with ati 9700 graphic card; don't have it anymore; gave it to the nephew).
Back to top
vagonite




Posts: 132

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:48    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
.... why the fuck shouldn't they count?

What a preposterous statement. DC processors make up the lion's share of the desktop market -- and single-core procs no doubt outnumber quads too, so optimising the game solely for a specification that is in the MINORITY is pretty fucking stupid .. and defending that logic is stupid on a level I can't even begin to express.


Ok, did you see the smiley ??? get the bee out of your bonnet.

Edit: To explain some more - the game seems to be made for quads, not for anything lower. So yeah, its not optimized for the majority of PCs - which it should be. But, I don't care - I have a quad.


Last edited by vagonite on Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:53; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
sabin1981
Mostly Cursed



Posts: 87805

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:53    Post subject:
heckknow wrote:
sabin1981 -- my old system suck bad (something like a dual core amd with ati 9700 graphic card; don't have it anymore; gave it to the nephew).


Oh I wasn't e-peen'ing, bud.. just mentioning how Dark Messiah ran fine on duals and didn't need a quad. Sorry if I wasn't clear >_<

vagonite wrote:


Ok, did you see the smiley ??? get the bee out of your bonnet.


Did you see the part where I don't care how it runs on YOUR computer?
Back to top
vagonite




Posts: 132

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:57    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
heckknow wrote:
sabin1981 -- my old system suck bad (something like a dual core amd with ati 9700 graphic card; don't have it anymore; gave it to the nephew).


Oh I wasn't e-peen'ing, bud.. just mentioning how Dark Messiah ran fine on duals and didn't need a quad. Sorry if I wasn't clear >_<

vagonite wrote:


Ok, did you see the smiley ??? get the bee out of your bonnet.


Did you see the part where I don't care how it runs on YOUR computer?


Heh...you seemed pretty steamed to me.
Back to top
Glottis
Banned



Posts: 6313

PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2008 23:58    Post subject:
heckknow wrote:
xbox 360 has 3 cores. the more cores the better it runs. since it originally developed for a 3 core system. so more than 3 cores makes it run better. i wouldn't play this game if you have a single or dual core. wait until you update your system to four cores then try it again.

A guy I know has Q6600 (quad) and I E6750 (duo). We both had same fps with same settings, same res, same video cards, same amount of RAM, same OS. Difference was his cpu was only 47% used and mine 97%. So get your facts straight.


C2D E6750 @ 3.2Ghz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 4-4-4-12, GeForce GTX 260 c216 OC 896MB, 3.2TB, Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Xbox 360 Elite, PS2 Slim, Xbox
Back to top
heckknow




Posts: 541

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 00:00    Post subject:
Glottis -- good for you.
Back to top
Glottis
Banned



Posts: 6313

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 00:01    Post subject:
heckknow wrote:
Glottis -- good for you.

When you got pressured with real facts suddenly this is all you can come up with? Weak.


C2D E6750 @ 3.2Ghz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 4-4-4-12, GeForce GTX 260 c216 OC 896MB, 3.2TB, Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Xbox 360 Elite, PS2 Slim, Xbox
Back to top
sabin1981
Mostly Cursed



Posts: 87805

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 00:04    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
Difference was his cpu was only 47% used and mine 97%.


For the love of God. See, this is what I'm talking about!! Your proc was using 97%? Mine was only in the 70s! Why the hell is there a difference on a game that is, supposedly AND obviously, CPU limited?

Call me nuts, but I WANT the game to use every goddamned megahertz! If it's only using 72% of the processor, then that's 28% just going to waste!
Back to top
heckknow




Posts: 541

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 00:05    Post subject:
Glottis -- what real facts? you really have a problem there, buddy.
Back to top
vagonite




Posts: 132

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 00:07    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
heckknow wrote:
xbox 360 has 3 cores. the more cores the better it runs. since it originally developed for a 3 core system. so more than 3 cores makes it run better. i wouldn't play this game if you have a single or dual core. wait until you update your system to four cores then try it again.

A guy I know has Q6600 (quad) and I E6750 (duo). We both had same fps with same settings, same res, same video cards, same amount of RAM, same OS. Difference was his cpu was only 47% used and mine 97%. So get your facts straight.


Are you both running your procs at the same Ghz? What happens if you both increase the res etc - this is something I would want to know if any difference appears.
Back to top
Glottis
Banned



Posts: 6313

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 00:10    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Glottis wrote:
Difference was his cpu was only 47% used and mine 97%.


For the love of God. See, this is what I'm talking about!! Your proc was using 97%? Mine was only in the 70s! Why the hell is there a difference on a game that is, supposedly AND obviously, CPU limited?

Call me nuts, but I WANT the game to use every goddamned megahertz! If it's only using 72% of the processor, then that's 28% just going to waste!

This game is horribly coded and optimized, that's why. It's a disgrace to PC gaming.

When I popped my old 8800GT in my brothers shitty old computer with Pentium D 3.2Ghz and 1GB of ram, FPS in CoD4 and other games jumped like 5 times. He can play that game maxed out now. When I installed my new GTX260 not so long ago I got around 2x FPS boost in every single game, but GTA4.


C2D E6750 @ 3.2Ghz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 4-4-4-12, GeForce GTX 260 c216 OC 896MB, 3.2TB, Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Xbox 360 Elite, PS2 Slim, Xbox
Back to top
Glottis
Banned



Posts: 6313

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 00:13    Post subject:
vagonite wrote:
Glottis wrote:
heckknow wrote:
xbox 360 has 3 cores. the more cores the better it runs. since it originally developed for a 3 core system. so more than 3 cores makes it run better. i wouldn't play this game if you have a single or dual core. wait until you update your system to four cores then try it again.

A guy I know has Q6600 (quad) and I E6750 (duo). We both had same fps with same settings, same res, same video cards, same amount of RAM, same OS. Difference was his cpu was only 47% used and mine 97%. So get your facts straight.


Are you both running your procs at the same Ghz? What happens if you both increase the res etc - this is something I would want to know if any difference appears.

His quad was running at 3.0ghz and my c2d at 3.2ghz. Dunno about different resolutions, it was irrelevant for us so we didn't test that.


C2D E6750 @ 3.2Ghz, 4GB 800MHz DDR2 4-4-4-12, GeForce GTX 260 c216 OC 896MB, 3.2TB, Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Xbox 360 Elite, PS2 Slim, Xbox
Back to top
FireMaster




Posts: 13313
Location: I do not belong
PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 00:50    Post subject:
game runs fine on my Core 2 Duo 8800GT
Back to top
streetunder




Posts: 4125

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 01:04    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
game runs fine on my Core 2 Duo 8800GT


yeah, the game runs fine here too.

1920x1200, high,high, other all details in auto configure.
Back to top
T6chikom6




Posts: 279

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 01:09    Post subject:
Intel is doing better than AMD with the game I think Sad.

The best I can get is around 25-40 fps, with frequent 15-25 slowdowns, running it with -safemode.
Back to top
sabin1981
Mostly Cursed



Posts: 87805

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 03:49    Post subject:
*does the happy dance*

I fixed GTAIV!! Very Happy

Wellll... I fixed the problem I was having with constant hitching and stuttering, at least. Can't fucking believe it either -- the whole damned thing was MY fault, my appalling memory!

It was the Page File! Whenever I install Windows, I always set the page-file to a specific - fixed - amount and then I put it on a drive seperate to Windows. The last install I did, I put the PF on my old Maxtor HDD and forgot about it. Well the HDD died about two months ago and I removed it from the machine. Seems Windows defaulted back to having an automatica PF on the Win drive .. and was constantly increasing and decreasing the size of it (from 16MB to 3000MB!!!) during high memory-load situations. GTAIV and Hellgate London are two games that RAPE memory. I only decided to check the PF when I was playing HGL and getting constant stuttering and hitching (JUST like what happens in GTA) after 20-30mins of play. Windows was using 99% of all available memory >_<

Gah.

My own goddamn fault for forgetting I had the PF on the dead drive.

Been playing GTAIV for about 45mins now and it hasn't stuttered once. Not ONCE. Running between 28-45fps (usually averages around 35 even at night) with Med/Med/20-20-20-10 settings. Still not as fast or smooth as I'd PREFER it, but it's playable now!
Back to top
Birdymaster




Posts: 89

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 04:01    Post subject:
iam happy for u Razz stay of the page file. now you dont haveto camp this thread 24/7 anymore Very Happy also update your profile because one maxtor is death.
beside i hate maxtor drives in the past i used them for many years.
they make allot of nois and after a few years they are broke, never buy maxtor again


|| Case: TJ05S-T || Psu: Seasonic S12-600 || Mobo: EVGA 750i Sli || Proc: Q6600 || Gfx: 2 x 8800GT SLI || Ram: 4 GB ||
|| Hdd: 2 x 74 GB Raptor Raid0 + 1 x SS 1TB + 1 x WD 250 GB + 1 x WD 400 GB || CRT: P225F || KEYB: G15 || Os: Win 7 x64 || XFI-Platinium


Last edited by Birdymaster on Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 04:13; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
FireMaster




Posts: 13313
Location: I do not belong
PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 04:01    Post subject:
it gets a little slow at nights with the beams on so I tend to smash the car against something to break the lights , then it becomes smooth again
Back to top
sabin1981
Mostly Cursed



Posts: 87805

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 04:02    Post subject:
LOL!!
Back to top
cnZ
Banned



Posts: 3091

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 04:24    Post subject:
game hasn't stuttered for me, also using PF (constant; 1024-1024mb), but missing textures popping up... well at least it was with v1.0

game's been uninstalled for now, and i aint gonna buy a new laptop for this title. my machina doing everything else i need fine:>


yes
Back to top
Birdymaster




Posts: 89

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 04:28    Post subject:
someone know wich version are the best nvidia drivers?


|| Case: TJ05S-T || Psu: Seasonic S12-600 || Mobo: EVGA 750i Sli || Proc: Q6600 || Gfx: 2 x 8800GT SLI || Ram: 4 GB ||
|| Hdd: 2 x 74 GB Raptor Raid0 + 1 x SS 1TB + 1 x WD 250 GB + 1 x WD 400 GB || CRT: P225F || KEYB: G15 || Os: Win 7 x64 || XFI-Platinium
Back to top
chaingang23




Posts: 893

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 08:48    Post subject:
Birdymaster wrote:
someone know wich version are the best nvidia drivers?


The latest 180.84 Beta drivers run GTA Iv good.
Back to top
LeoNatan
Banned



Posts: 73193
Location: Ramat Gan, Israel 🇮🇱
PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 08:54    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
[...] It was the Page File! [...]

Usually it is best to set the page file to 1.5 of the total amount of memory, and this is what usually Windows does.
Back to top
JBeckman
VIP Member



Posts: 34518
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 09:24    Post subject:
With some exceptions, having a low amount of memory means you'll need a larger pagefile albeit it's still good to have a size of roughly 2 - 2.5 GB (Larger if needed, there's no disadvantages aside from it taking more disk-space.) so that it can handle any amount of data, specifically Vista uses it a bit more than XP from what I've understood.

Also set the system to have no page file, reboot and if needed delete it unless Windows already did and then set up the new one in order to start on a "clean" (unfragmented) file unless you have programs that also defragments the pagefile.
Back to top
inz




Posts: 11914

PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 09:27    Post subject:
Anyone have an exact list of NPC's you can choose to assassinate/spare during the missions?
Back to top
JBeckman
VIP Member



Posts: 34518
Location: Sweden
PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2008 09:58    Post subject:
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=56495

Sales appear to have dropped quite a bit, probably not what Rockstar expected but it's pretty much given that sales would be affected by all the issues (Bugs and problems.) and extras (LIVE and Social Club plus SecuROM.) for the PC version PLUS that the console version has already been out for a while and most sales have already gone to those two versions.

Or they could just blame piracy as usual.
(While meant as a joke I guess they'll still use that excuse, at least to explain part of the low sales - not to say that the cracked versions doesn't interfere with sales but I don't think it's that much of a problem as certain developers make it seem like.)
Back to top
Page 68 of 156 All times are GMT + 1 Hour
NFOHump.com Forum Index - PC Games Arena Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 67, 68, 69 ... 154, 155, 156  Next
Signature/Avatar nuking: none (can be changed in your profile)  


Display posts from previous:   

Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2.0.8 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group