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tranx




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 21:36    Post subject:
this game is great. so far, havent encountered any probs. is there camera rotation in this game? i tried the middle mouse button but nothing happens.
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copywrong




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 21:57    Post subject:
No camera on indoor maps like the first one: Moria, later maps have camera rotation.
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 22:04    Post subject:
@thudo, thanks for posting that man.

My friend behind the router managed to get through that and now we can play over battleLAN just fine.


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Avenger_




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 22:52    Post subject:
tranx wrote:
this game is great. so far, havent encountered any probs. is there camera rotation in this game? i tried the middle mouse button but nothing happens.


Use the numpad arrows, and use numpad-5 to reset.

And, is it possible to turn up the number of units allowed in a MP game?
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 23:24    Post subject:
I can rotate mine by holding down the middle mouse button and swivelling side to side.


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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 02:27    Post subject:
Avenger_ wrote:
tranx wrote:
this game is great. so far, havent encountered any probs. is there camera rotation in this game? i tried the middle mouse button but nothing happens.


Use the numpad arrows, and use numpad-5 to reset.

And, is it possible to turn up the number of units allowed in a MP game?


someone posted directions to do this better than id be able to explain it:

http://mec.ogresnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1847&st=0

or you can download a zip file to do this for you, but its in german, so translate the directions:

http://www.sum-fanpage.de/include.php?path=content/download.php&contentid=375&PHPKITSID=1525a1022ec44dfd43ea59962a84e3c9

and of course this wont work on online mode but should work fine if you are playing a friend who does the same to his install of bfme.
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thudo




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 03:12    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
@thudo, thanks for posting that man.
My friend behind the router managed to get through that and now we can play over battleLAN just fine.


Can you please explain how your colleague got it to work through a Router/NAT? What was his brand of Router? Any Port Forwarding? Did he get it to work using my 10point instructions or another method?

Please elaborate where ya can!


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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 03:26    Post subject:
Here's what I know:

His router is a Linksys BEFSX41.

We had him forward ports 8088 through 28088, these were mentioned with the game README.

I copied and pasted your post to him and he just ran through the steps.

He runs battleLAN 0.5 and adds my IP, hits start.

Then he loads the game, hits network, and starts a game.

I'm on a pure connection so I don't have to do anything relating to a router.

However, contrary to the readme, I have to run battleLAN too.

I type his IP in, hit add, then hit start.

I run the game and click Network. His game shows up and I hit join.

Works like a charm. We've already played about 5 games that ran real well.

I'm not sure if it'll work if both players are behind routers, we'll try that later.

Hope that helps.


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thudo




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 03:32    Post subject:
Brilliant! Very Happy We have just given hope to millions who could never possibly get any game out there running through a Router/NAT due to programmer incompetence! This is huge as the original Generals/ZH would not work whatsoever through a Router/NAT unless u were frick'n lucky (I never could at all for years and had to go direct connect to the high-speed modem)!

So my question is: what happens if yer bud DOES NOT forward ports 8088 through 28088? Still works? No matter though as the hard part has been done. Not only does the game get seen in simulated LAN over Internet BUT it can be joined with minimal impact to the gameplay! Fabulous! Laughing Now I have to get the theory working myself in an actual game with da buds! Cool

Btw, Damn that was a fast reply.. then again yer moderating the forums so.. Razz


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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 04:45    Post subject:
Well I tried to setup the DMZ + WAN IP on my machine, but as soon as I set it up it says there's a conflict with another device on my network.

If I run an ipconfig I get this:

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

So I guess my comp is conflicting with my router???


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thudo




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 05:18    Post subject:
Yea thats not right as I just looked at mine..

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 70.xxx.xxx.xxx
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

I'm running behind a Linksys WRT54G with that 10point workaround. Wait.. did you do the workaround or just your bud? Something isn't right. Recheck yer settings in TCP/IP/Advanced or go back to default, reboot, then redo 10point settings. Should work peachy! Very Happy


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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 07:03    Post subject:
Well, usually I am just on a clean connection.

But just for a test I hooked up behind my router and followed those steps. Everytime I would finish and hit apply, it would error and say I was conflicting with another device.

My buddy did his fine.

I have a shitty router I guess though, oh well no big deal. Razz


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HaschBiff
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 07:41    Post subject:
WOW!! I just played trough the game on the evil side... And it ROCK!!! Very Happy
The best game i have played in some time Smile
Now im off to play as Frodo :S Damm hobbit guy Sad
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fenrye




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 10:10    Post subject:
great game,i hadnt so much fun with a RTS since....i dont know Very Happy
definitly the GAME OF THE YEAR for me,hehe


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winny




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 15:01    Post subject:
decided to buy it, a great game deserves it to be bought
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Pizda2




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 15:58    Post subject:
winny wrote:
decided to buy it, a great game deserves it to be bought


Agreed, bought it today, damn what a great game.


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Malic




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 17:16    Post subject:
i have the original...
my friends has the clone... we wanna play a bit online...
is this possible??? via direct connect? if yes could any1 explain how???
thx!
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 18:07    Post subject:
Got my copy on the way for Christmas. Smile

Agreed, very good game, although I think Gandalf is overpowered. The Witch King sucks for 8,000 gold and can die in one hit to Gandalf.


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zman8




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 21:18    Post subject:
I have the Hoodlum version (DVD) but want to make a backup of it...how do i do this since Alcohol 120% v1.9.2 1705 does not have an option for SafeDisc4. Only SafeDisc 1,2,3
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thudo




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PostPosted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004 21:45    Post subject:
Malic wrote:
i have the original...
my friends has the clone... we wanna play a bit online...
is this possible??? via direct connect? if yes could any1 explain how???
thx!


Uhmmm Malic it was explained 10+ messages above this one..


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thudo




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 05:40    Post subject:
Well.. I don't get it sTo0z... we couldn't get it working Network with BattleLan 0.5 ! ! What gives? Tried everything we could think of.. I'm behind a Linksys WRT54G Router with the ports opened, in the DMZ, workaround activated and I can't even see my colleagues in the lobby. Both of them are direct connects but when they try to create a game themselves it times out! Grrrrr! F*ing EA being such asses again with utter sh*t netcode! Figured it would work as it works for you as the 10point workaround says. Bahhh!

I just don't bloody get it!!


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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 05:46    Post subject:
Assuming all of your port forwarding and DMZ/IP settings are correct:

Player A = game host
Player B = game client

Player A runs battleLAN and types in Player B's IP. Hit Add. Hit Start.

Player A runs B4ME. Choose Network. Choose Create.

Player A is now waiting in a hosted game.

Player B runs BattleLAN and types Player A's IP. Hit Add. Hit Start.

Player B runs B4ME. Choose Network. Game should appear in list.

Hit Join, have fun.


Did you do things in the proper order?


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thudo




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 07:35    Post subject:
The only thing that wasn't done right, now I think of it, was my Port 6112 was only forwarded to UDP instead of both TCP/UDP. BattleLan needs Port 6112 with TCP/UDP active. Otherwise.. shheshh.. all looks as it should. Strange though as my fellow colleagues were both direct connect (well.. one of them was initially behind a router then went DC..).. guess we have somethin to try tomorrow just to test..


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DarkerIntent




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 14:19    Post subject:
DvD image? I am not familiar with these. Do I need a DVD Burner in order to burn it to a cd and play it in my pc's cd drive? Just a simple question,could someone answer it for me please? ^.^
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el_sos




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 14:23    Post subject:
DarkerIntent use daemon tool.
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Anticasper




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 14:24    Post subject:
Easiest thing to is to use daemon tools or an equivalent, just mount the image and install.
Burning is a waste of time and money in my opinion.


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noxbenton




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 15:02    Post subject:
Anyone got MP working with more than 2 players? Runs fine with 2... but with 3rd it keeps timing out and kicking one of the players out during start-up.. using BattleLAN 0.5...
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maria do carmo




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 15:02    Post subject:
ya but i want cd version......... to burn it.... in case of format Very Happy
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thudo




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 16:54    Post subject:
noxbenton.. What Router ya using? Which Ports forward? Are you all DirectConnected or someone on a Router? Did you need to do the 10point workaround mentioned 10 messages above or no? Remember, Dawn Of War has an issue with 3+ players and routers.. If anyone has a Router one cannot connect more than 3 players to a game UNLESS they preform the 10point workaround. Screwy? You bet! Just curious about your network topography? Further, did u try Gaming Internet Tunnel v.98 ?


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Avenger_




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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004 16:58    Post subject:
upstart_69 wrote:

someone posted directions to do this better than id be able to explain it:

http://mec.ogresnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1847&st=0

or you can download a zip file to do this for you, but its in german, so translate the directions:

http://www.sum-fanpage.de/include.php?path=content/download.php&contentid=375&PHPKITSID=1525a1022ec44dfd43ea59962a84e3c9

and of course this wont work on online mode but should work fine if you are playing a friend who does the same to his install of bfme.


Thanks a lot!
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