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LeoNatan
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I suggest you read the performance review I posted a few pages back. And that's made with the beta, so imagine how it will be with the RTM.
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 12:08 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | The reason DX11 is coming out now is because nothing new will happen with DX10/DX10.1. It is now considered a dud by MS. They hope that with DX11 it will be different. As for game support, until console games don't demise, games will only support the lowest common denominator - DX9. |
It wasn't so much a dud as it was a means to move to a completely new way of how a graphics chip work and how Direct3D works. DirectX10 was built from scratch and didn't really bring tons of new tricks or stuff like that, it was just a way to introduce the next generation of Shader vs API structure. DirectX11 will build on DirectX10 (DX11 is now multithreaded) while introducing a new tessellation engine (requires new DX11-hardware) and Compute shaders.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 12:10 Post subject: |
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| Karmeck wrote: |  |
 it sure is.
What about dream files, will it support animated wallpapers like Vista pro? |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 12:30 Post subject: |
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I like Vista. I had tons of problems with XP. With Vista, I have yet to have a problem. It preforms well. No crashes or anything. Runs fast. Its all around good for me.
Maybe some ppl have problems because their comps arent very powerful? I dunno. I have a high-end system. But I guess ppl with low to mid range systems have problems...I dunno.
All I know Vista works perfectly for me and Im happy with it. I will switch to Windows 7 when it comes out, but I will wait 6 months till games and appz are supported for it. I never buy an OS day of release. Always bugs and they always release a more stable version 3-6 months later.
But I will switch based on the chart Leo posted and I trust Leo and his knowledge of all comp related things.
@Leo
What does RTM mean or stand for?
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 12:34 Post subject: |
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RTM stands for "release to manufacturing."
| Wikipedia wrote: | The term “release to manufacturing” or “release to marketing” (both abbreviated RTM) is used to indicate that the software has met a defined quality level and is ready for mass distribution either by electronic means or by physical media. The term does NOT define the delivery mechanism, it only states that the quality is sufficient for mass distribution. The deliverable from the engineering organization is usually in the form of a gold master CD used for duplication or to produce the image for the web.
In most if not all cases, RTM happens prior to general availability (GA) where the product is released to the public. |
Basically RTM version is the final release version.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 13:04 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | RTM stands for "release to manufacturing."
| Wikipedia wrote: | The term “release to manufacturing” or “release to marketing” (both abbreviated RTM) is used to indicate that the software has met a defined quality level and is ready for mass distribution either by electronic means or by physical media. The term does NOT define the delivery mechanism, it only states that the quality is sufficient for mass distribution. The deliverable from the engineering organization is usually in the form of a gold master CD used for duplication or to produce the image for the web.
In most if not all cases, RTM happens prior to general availability (GA) where the product is released to the public. |
Basically RTM version is the final release version. |
So W7 is still beta right?
Hey, how does mass production work? Do they make one Gold copy and then make say a million duplicates or do they make a bunch of Gold copies and make a million duplicates?
Are Gold (Master/Original) copies better than the ones they sell in stores? |
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 14:01 Post subject: |
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I don't understand what you are asking.
Windows 7 is still in early beta ( beta 1 ) and once it hits RTM they just create a Master and distribute it to use as OEM versions on pc's and laptops which are sold in stores and a little bit later the same version can be found in store with the proper packaging etc...
There's no difference.
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 14:06 Post subject: |
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And when is the release date?
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 14:19 Post subject: |
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| Social wrote: | I don't understand what you are asking.
Windows 7 is still in early beta ( beta 1 ) and once it hits RTM they just create a Master and distribute it to use as OEM versions on pc's and laptops which are sold in stores and a little bit later the same version can be found in store with the proper packaging etc...
There's no difference. |
Like how do they create the thousands of copies they ship to the store?
Do they make one special "Master" disc and make thousands of copies of it which then are packaged and sent to stores?
I dont get how they make thousands of copies that end up in stores is what Im saying dude |
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 14:22 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: |
Do they make one special "Master" disc and make thousands of copies of it which then are packaged and sent to stores?
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Yes.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 14:27 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | Like how do they create the thousands of copies they ship to the store?
Do they make one special "Master" disc and make thousands of copies of it which then are packaged and sent to stores?
I dont get how they make thousands of copies that end up in stores is what Im saying dude |
What happens is they make the master/gold/"teh one" version, which is then sent to a replication facility which makes millions copies of the disk, which are then, together with the manuals, etc, put into a nice box and shipped worldwide. With MS they first make it available to MSDN subscribers, then special OEM versions are sent to OEMs ( ) and lastly the regular retail versions are shipped to stores in pretty packages (with Vista they were really pretty).  |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 14:57 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | Like how do they create the thousands of copies they ship to the store?
Do they make one special "Master" disc and make thousands of copies of it which then are packaged and sent to stores?
I dont get how they make thousands of copies that end up in stores is what Im saying dude |
What happens is they make the master/gold/"teh one" version, which is then sent to a replication facility which makes millions copies of the disk, which are then, together with the manuals, etc, put into a nice box and shipped worldwide. With MS they first make it available to MSDN subscribers, then special OEM versions are sent to OEMs () and lastly the regular retail versions are shipped to stores in pretty packages (with Vista they were really pretty). |
ah, gotcha. Thanks for the indepth reply and not just a "yes".
Ty bud |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 15:03 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | ah, gotcha. Thanks for the indepth reply and not just a "yes". |
Yes. |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 15:06 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | ah, gotcha. Thanks for the indepth reply and not just a "yes". |
Yes. |
fuck you *moons Leo*  |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 15:18 Post subject: |
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009 12:23 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | You asked a question, got an answer, and that wasn't good enough for you?
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What Leo said.
Geez man....in almost every thread/section your a prick. Lighten up man, shit.
And some of us here are friends and joke around with each other and I consider Leo a friend so yeah, we joke around all the time.
You should see the VIP section. We're all friends and constantly makes jokes and make fun of each other but its all done in good fun cuz everyone knows we're kidding and friend's bust each other's balls all the time.
Take me and Sin. We always take shots at each other but I don't mind cuz he's my friend. Same goes Animal and Waldo and Lutz and many many others.
Lighten up dude |
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Jan 2009 23:05 Post subject: |
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I have just installed it... I love it!!!! 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Nui
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 00:31 Post subject: |
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I just changed utorrents "net.max_halfopen" setting to 300, which should cause event id:4226. Instead though, my client connected to at least 150 people in 1 to 2 seconds max and i dont find that event in the event log.
Did microsoft increase the limit for half open tcp/ip connections or even removed it?
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 16:26 Post subject: |
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Will dis ran on my 286 wif 4MB RAM Leo?
I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 16:30 Post subject: |
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yuo shud upgraid to pentium its only 399$ now, very chip
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 19:39 Post subject: |
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Did someone test the beta for audio/video playback capeabilities? Are ffdshow, CoreAVC, DirectVobSub and AC3Filter compatible? What about SPDIF and audio drivers?
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| Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2009 21:51 Post subject: |
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well the only bad thing I can see for now is that my sound is buzzing, but that maybe because I have downloaded 64-bit version, and the xp (where everything is alright) is 32 bit. So that the drivers don't match... Other than that, everything works fine...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 02:17 Post subject: |
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| me7 wrote: | | Did someone test the beta for audio/video playback capeabilities? Are ffdshow, CoreAVC, DirectVobSub and AC3Filter compatible? What about SPDIF and audio drivers? |
Win7 Works pretty flawlessly so far in every aspect I've tested in, which is saying a lot for a beta.
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Nui
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2009 04:19 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | yuo shud upgraid to pentium its only 399$ now, very chip |
Haha, cyrix86 ist chiper noob. |
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| Posted: Sat, 17th Jan 2009 18:15 Post subject: |
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| temprandom wrote: | | Windows 7 will probably be worse than Windows XP and Windows Vista combined. |
I'm dying to hear what this opinion is based on.
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