Grand Theft Auto IV
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saddamhussein




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Jan 2009 20:39    Post subject:
Hate asking again... any step by step tutorial on how to start a normal local Lan game, using 2 PC's, both with wlan and a router? I don't need hamachi for this do I? I can see my mates PC in the windows explrer network menu, but if I host a lan game or he does we don't see each other...
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tatto12
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 00:34    Post subject:
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Hate asking again... any step by step tutorial on how to start a normal local Lan game, using 2 PC's, both with wlan and a router? I don't need hamachi for this do I? I can see my mates PC in the windows explrer network menu, but if I host a lan game or he does we don't see each other...


you don't need hamachi to play lan and multiplayer general. just get a key from an other live game and it should work
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cortexter




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 02:50    Post subject:
tatto12 wrote:
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Hate asking again... any step by step tutorial on how to start a normal local Lan game, using 2 PC's, both with wlan and a router? I don't need hamachi for this do I? I can see my mates PC in the windows explrer network menu, but if I host a lan game or he does we don't see each other...


you don't need hamachi to play lan and multiplayer general. just get a key from an other live game and it should work


Well, you don't need any key to play it via LAN Smile

If you want to play the game on the local lan (example: 2 computers connected to a router/switch), you don't need hamachi. And if you want to play with your friend trhough internet, you need hamachi, because it emulates as if you were on a LAN Smile

But for both cases:
To create a game , just start the game, in the cellphone menu, select multiplayer, "Player Match" -> "LAN" -> "Create Match" Create a game and make it whatever you like. (ex: Free Mode)

To join a game, in-game press the "up" key to bring out the cellphone and press "Multiplayer".
Create a model if necessary and click on "Player Match" -> "LAN" -> "Custom Match" and press F5 to find the servers.

And of course, you both need to have same versions of GTA!

P.S : To make the GTA work via Hamachi, you must override the default network adapter, with that hamach one. to do so:

1) Go to START -> RUN...

2) Type in: regedit
and press Enter or click on OK

3) Click on HKEY_CURRENT_USER -> Software -> Classes -> Software -> Microsoft and click on XLive (do not click the "+")

4) Now on your right, right click on the empty background and select:
New -> String Value

5) Name the new value: ConnectionOverride
Press OK

6) Now right click on the new String Value called "ConnectionOverride" and click Modify

7) Type in: Hamachi in the Value field and press OK

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HOW TO CHECK
The steps above will make Games For Windows Live use the Hamachi Network Adapter as the Default connection to play the game online.

So, now start the game using the "LaunchGTAIV.exe"
and make sure Games For Windows Live now uses Hamachi.
You can do this by pressing the "Home" Key, clicking on Personal Settings and then click on Network Information. It should now say "Hamachi (registry overrided)" next to Adapter.

IF YOU WANT TO PLAY THE GAME ON THE LAN AGAIN, JUST DELETE THE REGISTRY ENTRY

SEEN? NOW YOU CAN SHOT ALL DA BUMBACLOTS! ONE LOVE, PEACE
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shole




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 03:17    Post subject:
wee, brilliant
but i assume that doesn't work if i've used the live/rssc removal .dll?
will try
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NoFace.




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 10:44    Post subject:
Hi all,

i must ask here a Question. And Sorry for my bad english. Sad

When i buy GTA 4 and install it and install the first Update/Patch. Is this Game now playable on PC or not? Or should i wait for more updates?

Can anyone help me please?

Thank you.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 11:38    Post subject:
First patch fixes some minor issues but the game should be fully playable unless you encounter some weird problems with the program(s) (Game, LIVE and Rockstar Social Club) itself. Smile

EDIT: Could also use the XLIVE loader linked to previously to disable LIVE and Rockstar Social Club but that will also disable multiplayer.
(Mainly to prevent people from cheating online but I doubt MP would work all that well without LIVE and Social Club)
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NoFace.




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 11:46    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
First patch fixes some minor issues but the game should be fully playable unless you encounter some weird problems with the program(s) (Game, LIVE and Rockstar Social Club) itself. Smile

EDIT: Could also use the XLIVE loader linked to previously to disable LIVE and Rockstar Social Club but that will also disable multiplayer.
(Mainly to prevent people from cheating online but I doubt MP would work all that well without LIVE and Social Club)


Thank you. I don't play Multiplayer, only Singleplayer. (My Internet Connection is very slow)
But it's playable with the frist Update, right?
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 11:59    Post subject:
Yes, performance (framerate) could be better though as the game is very demanding but there shouldn't be any major problems with it. Smile
(Meaning that you shouldn't encounter any crashes, bugs or glitches in the actual game.)

If you use a crack you should also know that it seems the patch doesn't touch the LaunchGTAIV.exe file so most of them should be fully compatible with the update. Smile
(Razor1911's seems to be pretty popular.)
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NoFace.




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 12:18    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Yes, performance (framerate) could be better though as the game is very demanding but there shouldn't be any major problems with it. Smile
(Meaning that you shouldn't encounter any crashes, bugs or glitches in the actual game.)

If you use a crack you should also know that it seems the patch doesn't touch the LaunchGTAIV.exe file so most of them should be fully compatible with the update. Smile
(Razor1911's seems to be pretty popular.)


Thank you JBeckman. I don't use Cracks or something on my Games. Always original.
So i wait for another Update Patch, then i buy it.

Thank you for your help.
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Oranges




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 19:47    Post subject:
cortexter wrote:


Well, you don't need any key to play it via LAN Smile
.....TS! ONE LOVE, PEACE


Must i have a Social Club account ? Because with this tweak i don't see Hamachi IP in the Xlive menu.
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cortexter




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 20:07    Post subject:
Oranges wrote:
cortexter wrote:


Well, you don't need any key to play it via LAN Smile
.....TS! ONE LOVE, PEACE


Must i have a Social Club account ? Because with this tweak i don't see Hamachi IP in the Xlive menu.


Nope Smile I don't have social club account, only xlive offline account Smile And if you press "Home" Key, clicking on Personal Settings and then click on Network Information(in xbox live). It should say "Hamachi (registry overrided)" next to Adapter.

It worked for me Smile

P.S The registry settings are case sensitive Smile
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Oranges




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 20:34    Post subject:
This are my registry settings:



When i start the game i don't see Hamachi IP. Only Network IP Sad How to Sad

EDIT: I checked value Hamachi and than hamachi (you said it's case sensitive) but no change Sad
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cortexter




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jan 2009 22:10    Post subject:
Oranges wrote:
This are my registry settings:



When i start the game i don't see Hamachi IP. Only Network IP Sad How to Sad

EDIT: I checked value Hamachi and than hamachi (you said it's case sensitive) but no change Sad


AFAIK, It looks like you've used wrong registry path Smile Instead of HKEY_CURRENT_USER -> Software -> Classes -> Software -> Microsoft and click on XLive (do not click the "+") , it looks like you've used HKEY_CURRENT_MACHINE -> Software -> Classes -> Software -> Microsoft->XLive". Am I right?

P.S: Je to nahoda ze mas cesky jazyk vo windows? Very Happy
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streetunder




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Jan 2009 16:07    Post subject:
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Check out my video at social club tv :

"James Bond : Quantum of Liberty City"

Subtitles in english


-> https://tv.rockstargames.com/videos/view/id/CD6CA56431B50655



Cheers
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polosistealth




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 07:08    Post subject:
no custom cars yet for GTA4... seems it's pretty hard to mode it Crying or Very sad


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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 17:11    Post subject:
They said the same thing about the previous games, but in the end each game had tons of custom cars available after a while. The modders just need to figure stuff out first.
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saddamhussein




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Jan 2009 17:18    Post subject:
Does my router have to be configured to play over Wlan? I can see my freinds PC when I go on networks in the explorer, but in GTA he can't see me whe I create a new game. Any ports that have to given free on the router, or any firewalls that have to be deactivated?
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ilovebooze




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 12:58    Post subject:
Leftos wrote:
Don't know, I was so much willing to give Vista a go. So much willing. I had Vista 32-bit installed on my computer for quite some time, and when I installed GTA 4 I was in all kinds of trouble. CTD's, the driver having stopped responding, piss-poor performance.

Then during the holidays, I tried installing on my father's PC which has an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 and a GeForce 9800GT, running Windows XP 32-bit. And guess what? The game was fully playable, good performance, no crashes whatsoever, no BSODs, nothing.

That got me thinking, so I erased Vista and got XP running again. And my oh my. The performance is great even though I don't have the settings pretty high, just high enough to not encounter pop-ins and still have decent graphics and framerate, and I'm getting a constant >30FPS everywhere with the 180.48s and the 181.00s.

So, sorry, but either Microsoft is at fault, or NVidia is. And I don't care really. I want games to just work, and I don't have that much time to waste on just messing around to get them to work with hacks and command line switches and so on. On XP, for me at least and on my current rig, GTA4 just works. And it works smoothly.


Hehe, the contrary happened to me. I got GTA4 running on WinXP 32-Bit. It crashed constantly and the performance was poor. After installing Vista 32-Bit (including all Updates) the game was fully playable and never crashed, except once.

My rig: AMD Athlon 5000+ @ 3GHz, 8800GT, 4GB (~ 3.3 GB, due to Vista 32-Bit), Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H, all unnecessary services deactivated, Aero-Glass activated.

Can't complain...
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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 15:58    Post subject:
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MapHtH




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 10:31    Post subject:
Sorry to bring this up, but I hadn't had the nerve to check every page up.

So here's my question: When I install the 1.01 patch from the exe installer downloaded from the net, does the Razor1991 no dvd work on that, or do I need to wait for sth to solve that?

Thx
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streetunder




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 13:46    Post subject:
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Please check out my video

"Joker terrifies Liberty City"

This video is for batman fans, and for those who loved the dark knight

I think the video is funny.

Link -> https://tv.rockstargames.com/videos/view/id/F83441803BC31317

Subtitles in english

The rockstar social tv website isnt working good at the moment.



cheers.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 14:06    Post subject:
MapHtH wrote:
Sorry to bring this up, but I hadn't had the nerve to check every page up.

So here's my question: When I install the 1.01 patch from the exe installer downloaded from the net, does the Razor1991 no dvd work on that, or do I need to wait for sth to solve that?

Thx


Crack works fine with 1.01 patch. After patching copy and paste only the 1911.dll and LaunchGTAIV.exe from the crack folder to the installation directory. If you copy the GTAIV.exe from the razor crack, you will get an error and the game won't launch. Smile


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pablocoo




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 18:47    Post subject:
I have a few questions about X360 gamepad.

Is the wired X360 gamepad works on PC?
Is the X360 for PC gamepad works on X360?
If yes, are these two more or less the same thing?
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Janz




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 19:04    Post subject:
wired 360pad works on pc -> yes
x360 for pc gamepad owrks on x360 -> yes
same shit, x360 for pc gamepad only ships with an extra driver disc for windows xp. vista has drivers onboard.

wireless 360pads also work with the pc. but you need a receiver ~20 bucks. you can connect four wireless pads a time with it to you pc
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pablocoo




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 19:18    Post subject:
Thanks Smile
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crm




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 21:04    Post subject:
Has anyone successfully used mods via lan+hamachi or even just online?, I mean the famous ones, ragdoll,bullettime etc. I came across a video the other day of the exact mods I listed that were used in the video and it seemed to be 2 guys using it. What's the secret? the new xlive wrapper disables multi all together, I'm guessing just use the old wrapper and not update the game to 1.01 or whatever the latest version is?.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 21:13    Post subject:
Both of the Live wrappers disable MP so you need to use the older method to trick file validation and run the game with modified content together with Live and Rockstar Social Club.

Using modifications online is unsupported though I doubt you could get in trouble for using modifications but it could affect the game a bit.
(Best result would probably be using your own server with everyone having the same modifications.)

A quick method would be to use the "magic" patch on the GTA IV forums.
(Magic IV or whatever it was called, automated the process.)
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crm




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 21:46    Post subject:
So just by using "magic iv" I should be able to establish a lan game or whichever with friends, same mods,patches and be good to go?, I'm guessing what you meant by older method for tricking file validation is to use magic IV?
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 22:03    Post subject:
Yes, Magic IV is a utility that automates the process of tricking the file validation protection. Smile

Found the thread as well.
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=380102
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crm




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 22:23    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Yes, Magic IV is a utility that automates the process of tricking the file validation protection. Smile

Found the thread as well.
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=380102


Wicked, thanks for the insight.
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