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 Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 01:39 Post subject: I'm going to install Ubuntu... |
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Hey people, I'm downloading the ubuntu image atm.
8.10 x32 i386.
Any tips? I wan't to install it from my external hard drive. Do I need to prepare some things? How about internet, firewall, drivers?
I have 2GB RAM, Core2Duo T7200, 8 GB Partition for ubuntu, GeForce 7600 go.
I heard that I need Envy GTK. How do I download and install them with ubuntu? Any help would be appreciated. The only thing I DON'T want to get confronted with, is losing data from my windows xp partition.
Oh and would it be enough to just copy all data from the cd to my external usb hd and boot from it?
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 01:45 Post subject: |
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Read all you can about linux before you bother id say... Im getting the impression you dont know diddly about it ?
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 02:36 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 02:39 Post subject: |
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Gnome was the bane of my life back when I was running my old nVidia 6600 -- ever since then I've been partial to KDE. For me, if I ever want to tinker with Linux, it'll always be Slackware ^_^
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 02:51 Post subject: |
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I *love* XFCE, but given the choice between KDE and Gnome .. I'll pick KDE anytime. Smooth as butter on my old 6600GT.
If you just want a sandbox you can play around with, you could use VMware to install Ubuntu - either onto the seperate partition you made, or even onto a VHD. You could use that while you wait for your free Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu disk to come through the post. You can also install off a USB memory stick instead of the DVD drive.
Google should have all the help you need.
(Latest versions of VMware are pretty fricken' sweet, actually. They still don't have support for using your own graphics card properly, though they do enable hardware-acceleration via your GPU by using a virtual GPU driver -- but they do use your normal CPU properly without having to emulate a crappy old P3)
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 03:00 Post subject: |
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Then go the USB route, bud! Do you have any kind of USB music player? 1GB would suffice, I believe, as long as your PC supports booting from USB.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 03:04 Post subject: |
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Rinze
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 18:15 Post subject: |
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You can also download vmware images with Ubuntu or other distros. Might be the easiest solution.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 19:14 Post subject: |
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| Rinze wrote: | | You can also download vmware images with Ubuntu or other distros. Might be the easiest solution. |
Yes. And with today's CPUs, which include support for hardware accelerated virtualization, it is almost native speed. The only drawback is video performance, but I don't think it's an issue here. |
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 19:21 Post subject: |
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Agreed. I was stunned when I saw that VWware now uses my CPU for running virtualised OSes. WinXP was blinding fast and that was WITHIN Vista, heh. Just a shame, as you say, the video performance is a kick in the teeth. A crappy "generic" 128MB gpu that is only partially accelerated by your REAL one.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 19:39 Post subject: |
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Actually for Ubuntu I'd recommend Parallels Workstation instead of VMWare Workstation. The tools of Parallels are supported in Ubuntu oob, while the VMWare tools required me to recompile the kernel.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 19:49 Post subject: |
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Does Parallels WS require you to boot into the other OS, or does it run inside the current one?
(Please say the latter!! I tried VPC and VMware with XP installs in order to play "Survival Crisis Z" but both failed miserablly)
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 19:52 Post subject: |
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The latter, of course. It's like VMWare Workstation and VPC. But for a Windows guest machine, I'd go with VMWare.
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| Posted: Wed, 17th Dec 2008 20:02 Post subject: |
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VMware didn't work properly for what I wanted it to do. I got a "Run-time error '5': Invalid procedure call or argument" in VMware and an "Out of Memory" error in VPC. *growls*
I'll give PWS a try, thanks again man!
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New! Parallels Workstation now installs on new Linux kernel (2.6.23).
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New! Parallels Workstation now supports Ubuntu 7.10 and Fedora 8 as primary OS and guest OSes.
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Sounds like it might have fixed the issue with the kernel needing a recompile.
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 04:13 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 04:14 Post subject: |
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And : Any idea how to run Photoshop CS3 within Ubuntu?
I tried to run CS2 with wine, but it crashes on closing, opening files etc.
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 09:16 Post subject: |
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you don't  kiddin', I think you have sth like vmware in Ubuntu, so install windows and photoshop on it
If that fails, you're stuck in GIMP
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| Posted: Sat, 20th Dec 2008 17:24 Post subject: |
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ArchLinux is good for experienced users, as is Gentoo but it's community has been going downhill in recent years and most fixes doesn't get incorporated in upstream.
ArchLinux is probably one of the best performing distros as well.
Then theres Sidux which is essentially Debian Sid, and so it can be considered unstable, but I've always found it to be a nice distro to work with and theres some nice custom scripts available that make installing graphics drivers a breeze. Not to mention it comes with apt which is a boon for many people. The community here consists of old Debian hackers and the leaders of the project definitely know what they're doing.
Ubuntu I've tried every once in a while just to see how far they've come, and of course help out friends using it, I keep a virtualpc image around so I can easier give support. But the distro is becoming the "Windows" of the Linux distro world, in that it is now seen as being 'Linux' by many people when 'Linux' is in fact just a kernel.
But not to argue semantics, Ubuntu has a very big community and it contains people with varying interests and experience, although many of the most outspoken are newbies, you're sure to find help with whatever possible problem you might have though.
OpenSuSE is also a nice distro, it comes in a full package that has everything and the kitchensync. It's very easy to install and you're up and running within the hour with minimal configuration headaches. The web interface installation software for installing packages you find through the official website also makes it very easy to install all sorts of software and proprietary drivers. The community is mostly european and with varying degrees of experience.
These are just the distro's that I find worthwhile, but I suggest that you try out as many as possible until you find something that suits the task you want it to.
Concerning desktop environments, it definitely comes down to a matter of taste and with the computers of today, not as much a problem of hardware available, although KDE 4.2 is a resource hog.
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A recommendation for OpenSUSE from me, and KDE 4.2 as the desktop manager is just amazing, but hardcore fanbois will diss it as being too "vista like" or bloated. 
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2009 09:28 Post subject: |
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I read in magazine from that-site-which-we-don't-name-but-dl-our-rapidshare-stuff-from ( ), that even 70-yr old grandma can use Ubuntu. Really, now days you really don't need to work in terminal to make it work, it has become a point and click thing (I don't know if that's good or not). I guess I'm used to work in windows, I installed Win7, but I still went back to XP.
Maybe I'll give Ubuntu a try again... (or I'll just install it for fun )
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Mar 2009 17:13 Post subject: |
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I use Gentoo, compiler heaven.
Please avoid Ubuntu. It is the plague of Linux distros. Upgrades break drivers randomly, bug priorities not where they should be, etc etc.
Use Gentoo and learn A LOT about UNIX in general, programming, etc (just follow the guide). There is a wait however for programs to compile (99% of apps require this). Usually takes my computer about 10 hours or so to compile KDE (with all dependencies needed). It is not very hard to break, but not very easy either.
If you don't want to do that, I suggest Arch Linux and/or Debian.
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did it work? Ubuntu on an external drive?
I wanted to install CentOS some months ago on an externa drive. So i installed it on an external drive and the GRUB bootloader was on the external drive. When i wanted to boot my pc, nothing happened, because the USB was initialized after the bootloader was loaded or so... So i had no bootloader...
After i was able to finally boot up my windows vista via bootcd, my vista did a neat update and decided to do some tricks on the external drive, essentialy just wiping out the linux file system and converting it to some crappy NTFS, which is bad for linux !!
The result is that i rebooted my pc and the grub loader was just gone on the other drive, linux was gone and windows would not boot with the bootcd, so i had to use the recovery cd and boy boyboy. What a misery that was...
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