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JudgeUK
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LeoNatan
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1 - Impossible to install Vista 64bit over 32bit. Trust me, I tried every possible way, it is impossible. No need for a format though, you can just install over the 32bit installation, and it will even move your old installation files into a "Windows.old" folder.
2 - No difference, everything works as it should (even better, because there is support for more RAM).
3 - It works bad on all systems, as the game is pretty much bla-optimized, but it is the same across all versions of all operating systems.
Conclusion: Don't listen to DV2 when it comes to Vista, he'll probably say that because 64bit pointers are larger, 64bit instead of 32bit, there is 1MB extra overhead to applications, and it unacceptable for his archaic XP 32bit expectations.  Install it, and you won't look back, especially with 3.75+GB RAM. That said, if you have less RAM, it isn't worth it. 
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JudgeUK
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 01:32 Post subject: |
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I was thinking about windows 7 but I adopted Vista early also and got sick and tired of the piss poor driver support - especially from creative.
I guess it's a good oppurtunity to start backing some stuff up as it's only when you lose it all you realise what a moron you've been all this time for not doing it! lol
Anybody dual booting Vista64 & Win7? Any pitfalls to look out for if I did that?
Sometimes your the pigeon....sometimes your the statue.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 01:35 Post subject: |
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The only possible "pitfall" is running out of HDD space (because you have to split it into two partitions). 
Windows 7 is really great, but it is still beta, so some apps don't work properly (interestingly enough, drivers actually work fine, I haven't heard of one Vista driver that doesn't work in 7).
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 01:38 Post subject: |
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| JudgeUK wrote: |
Anybody dual booting Vista64 & Win7? Any pitfalls to look out for if I did that? |
I was. The only issue I had was with the Vista Loader 2.1.2 bootloader. When I installed Win7, it installed it's own bootloader and wiped the cracked one .. rendering my Vista "unactivated"
I simply had to just reinstall the 2.1.2 loader and all was gravy.
Then I uninstalled Vista and have stuck to Win7 as my primary, hehe. What worked/works in Vista, will work in Win7 (except SPTD) - and you can even use WinVista drivers.
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JudgeUK
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 01:50 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | What worked/works in Vista, will work in Win7 (except SPTD) - and you can even use WinVista drivers. |
Daemon used SPTD doesnt it? Does that work ok?
Thanks for the replies guys - I think I'll try dual booting and see which one takes my fancy after a fortnight or so.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Jan 2009 01:58 Post subject: |
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No, sorry. Nothing that uses SPTD works (DTools and Alcohol, most notably)
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2009 01:06 Post subject: |
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1 - As what 2nd post says, you can't do this. Anyways you should dual boot.
2 - Gaming is by far better on Vista x64 in almost all cases for me. Example, try running Faust on XP, its just not going to happen. You will get the worst sound studder at best. Now try it on Vista x64, it runs perfectly smooth, lip sync as well. Sanitarium (original version) is the same, its going to crash on xp, on Vista x64 its perfect, you dont need to slow down your machine like you do in xp. There are many more examples, I gave older games running as a lot of people ask about this.
3 - GTA IV will run better if you have the system for it (more than 4gigs of ram), but not by much compared to x86 Vista. You do need the latest patch or its just horrid on any machine. Mine is running great now and I tried both x64/x86 so I can make this comparison.
I do suggest you dual boot, keep your gaming system on x64 (photoshop is an exception) and applications on your x86. You will find games run great on x64 but your applications are a gamble if they will run properly. The drivers for Vista, being both x64/x86 are working great now, you really have no worries. I would even recommend trying the new windows 7 beta for gaming, I am hearing good things.
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