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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 10:13    Post subject:
pfft i'm running it at max settings with pc that cost less than one major component from his pc Razz
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gazman2k3




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 11:12    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
gazman2k3 wrote:
Really nice game this one,I was suprised at how well it runs,I am running the game fully maxed out AA16Q AN16x 1920x1080 and getting a solid 60 frames.

No shit, Sherlock with the uber PC.


uber PC?,I wouldn't call it uber,just a good quality rig,nothing special about it actually.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 12:19    Post subject:
gazman2k3 wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
gazman2k3 wrote:
Really nice game this one,I was suprised at how well it runs,I am running the game fully maxed out AA16Q AN16x 1920x1080 and getting a solid 60 frames.

No shit, Sherlock with the uber PC.


uber PC?,I wouldn't call it uber,just a good quality rig,nothing special about it actually.


Ok I would be very interested in hearing what components would be needed for you to call a PC uber. Cause your rig is fucking decked dude, hard to get much better.



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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 12:27    Post subject:
javlar wrote:
Ok I would be very interested in hearing what components would be needed for you to call a PC uber. Cause your rig is fucking decked dude, hard to get much better.

Tesla Reactor, obviously. If you ain't got that, you ain't got an uber PC. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 12:50    Post subject:
I want fiber optic signalling technology for the chips. Transistors are so '50s.
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gazman2k3




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 16:01    Post subject:
javlar wrote:
gazman2k3 wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:

No shit, Sherlock with the uber PC.


uber PC?,I wouldn't call it uber,just a good quality rig,nothing special about it actually.


Ok I would be very interested in hearing what components would be needed for you to call a PC uber. Cause your rig is fucking decked dude, hard to get much better.


I don't know,maybe these parts for starters

Core i7 Extreme 965 or 975 when it becomes available,12gb Corsair Dominator-GT 2000MHz 7-8-7-20 ram,couple of solid state SSD OCZ APEX Series in raid to run vista on,couple of 2000gb western digital drives,vapochill cooling,Blu-ray Burner,top of the range sound card,not sure if possible with quadsli,but run a 3rd card (gtx 285) for dedicated physx.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 16:14    Post subject:
Embarassed Meh, that is not uber PC, it can't even run GTA4 with constant 60fps on 1920x1200... Very Happy
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gazman2k3




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 16:33    Post subject:
Your right it's not an uber pc,but I can run GTA4 with with everything up as high as it will go except the draw distance,and get a constant 60fps at 1920x1080 no worries at all,I can't try 1920x1200 because of monitor limitations,but very similar resolution anyway,I don't think I would have any problems at 1920x1200 if I had the monitor to test it.

Having my cpu running at 4.1Ghz and my gtx 295 cards overclocked at 700Mhz on the cores,GTA4 isn't really hard to get a constant 60fps.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 17:21    Post subject:
Bullshit.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 17:46    Post subject:
Hahaha Sabin, welcome back dude! Did you return from the UK?
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gazman2k3




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 18:05    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Bullshit.


No Bullshit at all,60fps is actually possible.

I get between 58 to 60fps.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1020/gtaiv2009022201421582.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3636/gtaiv2009022201341743.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6969/gtaiv2009022201382889.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/291/gtaiv2009022201415553.jpg


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 18:13    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Hahaha Sabin, welcome back dude! Did you return from the UK?


Hey mate! Naw, still in the UK .. will be until next month unfortunately. I miss my girlfriend, damnit!! Sad

gazman2k3 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Bullshit.


No Bullshit at all,60fps is actually possible.

I get between 58 to 60fps.


With settings lower than you claimed - and either way, I still don't believe it.

I also find it hilarious how everyone "suddenly" has £500 cpus, £500 motherboards, £400 RAM, £200 HDDs and £1000 GPUs. Awesome stuff.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 18:22    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Hahaha Sabin, welcome back dude! Did you return from the UK?


Hey mate! Naw, still in the UK .. will be until next month unfortunately. I miss my girlfriend, damnit!! :(

gazman2k3 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Bullshit.


No Bullshit at all,60fps is actually possible.

I get between 58 to 60fps.


With settings lower than you claimed - and either way, I still don't believe it.

I also find it hilarious how everyone "suddenly" has £500 cpus, £500 motherboards, £400 RAM, £200 HDDs and £1000 GPUs. Awesome stuff.


There are no other settings to make higher besides the draw distance,anyhow you can believe it or don't believe it,it doesn't really make any difference to me I spose at the end of the day,I am an honest person,I said I could run the game at 60fps and I ment it,if that's your thing to go around and call people Lyers,then so be it.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 18:41    Post subject:
It would cost a bit of money but it's not that far from what I use although a newer generation of hardware so it's certainly possible albeit there's a few disadvantages as I see it.

Biggest issue with such a computer setup would be bad scaling and so called micro-stuttering, SLI and Crossfire both scale well with two cards but less so with three cards and there's a very small difference with four cards plus that micro-stutter problem is much greater.

That said if you get such good framerate in a heavy title like GTA IV then I see no issues although I don't think framerate would be that different using a single 295 or even a single GPU 285 card.

Heat would be the second problem but your water cooling setup already takes care of that although I don't know how your cooling the GPU's.
(Space is a bit limited as well as those are big cards so you can't fit much else in the other slots and need a large case for it.)

Nice setup anyhow. Smile
(Must have cost a ton of cash as Sabin remarked but that's the downside of PC gaming, always have to update to keep up and current.)
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gazman2k3




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 19:03    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
It would cost a bit of money but it's not that far from what I use although a newer generation of hardware so it's certainly possible albeit there's a few disadvantages as I see it.

Biggest issue with such a computer setup would be bad scaling and so called micro-stuttering, SLI and Crossfire both scale well with two cards but less so with three cards and there's a very small difference with four cards plus that micro-stutter problem is much greater.

That said if you get such good framerate in a heavy title like GTA IV then I see no issues although I don't think framerate would be that different using a single 295 or even a single GPU 285 card.

Heat would be the second problem but your water cooling setup already takes care of that although I don't know how your cooling the GPU's.
(Space is a bit limited as well as those are big cards so you can't fit much else in the other slots and need a large case for it.)

Nice setup anyhow. :)
(Must have cost a ton of cash as Sabin remarked but that's the downside of PC gaming, always have to update to keep up and current.)


Yeah it cost a bit I spose,but when I buid a pc I expect to keep it for at least 3 to 4 years before doing any upgrades,so I like to make it a fairly good pc,truthfully microstutter was my main concern before I got the two gtx 295 cards,but I got to be honest I havn't seen any microstutter,maybe I just don't know what to look for,they recon some people don't even notice microstutter even if they have it,I am probably one of those people,which is good.

Yeah your right,quadsli didn't add anything to GTA4,I ran with a single gtx 295 for about two weeks,and that pulled the same fps as it now does with two cards,GTA4 just isn't made to scale with quadsli I don't think,but pretty much most other games I got a huge jump in perfomance when going from one 295 to two 295 cards,games like grid,crysis,crysis warhead,lost planet and heaps of others got a really good jump in fps,I was supprised at how well quadsli scales.

These are benchmarks comparing when I had a single gtx 295 and quadsli 295

Farcry 2

1x gtx 295
Settings: Demo(Ranch Small), 1920x1080 (60Hz), D3D10, Fixed Time Step(No), Disable Artificial Intelligence(No), Full Screen, Anti-Aliasing(8x), VSync(No), Overall Quality(Ultra High), Vegetation(Very High), Shading(Ultra High), Terrain(Ultra High), Geometry(Ultra High), Post FX(High), Texture(Ultra High), Shadow(Ultra High), Ambient(High), Hdr(Yes), Bloom(Yes), Fire(Very High), Physics(Very High), RealTrees(Very High)


Average Framerate: 74.93
Max. Framerate: 106.47
Min. Framerate: 60.11


2x gtx295
Settings: Demo(Ranch Small), 1920x1080 (60Hz), D3D10, Fixed Time Step(No), Disable Artificial Intelligence(No), Full Screen, Anti-Aliasing(8x), VSync(No), Overall Quality(Ultra High), Vegetation(Very High), Shading(Ultra High), Terrain(Ultra High), Geometry(Ultra High), Post FX(High), Texture(Ultra High), Shadow(Ultra High), Ambient(High), Hdr(Yes), Bloom(Yes), Fire(Very High), Physics(Very High), RealTrees(Very High)

Average Framerate: 127.49
Max. Framerate: 175.12
Min. Framerate: 103.54




Crysis Warhead

1x gtx 295
DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 35.28 Max: 62.26 Avg: 48.82 ]

2x gtx295
DirectX 10 ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1920 x 1080 AA 0x
==> Framerate [ Min: 32.76 Max: 106.30 Avg: 78.57 ]


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 19:33    Post subject:
Interesting results, my knowledge on quad SLI/Crossire is a bit limited and not many people have such setups but the benchmarks and various comparisons I've checked showed pretty low scaling and framerate gains, it was a while since I checked things however so it's fully possible that newer drivers have improved the situation quite a bit.
(Which is very likely seeing that NVIDIA frequently updates their drivers and often improve performance both for single GPU cards and SLI configurations.)

Can't explain micro-stuttering that well either as it's a bit difficult to describe, it's like small lag spikes and minor pauses but it can be very difficult to notice and is also very dependant on framerate so perhaps the high framerate you get makes it less of a issue.
(Also varies from title to title.)

It's a nice setup though and it'll definitively last for quite a while.
(Large amount of RAM with good speeds and timings, multi-core processor and powerful graphics card - should be able to handle things quite well.)
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gazman2k3




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 20:07    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Interesting results, my knowledge on quad SLI/Crossire is a bit limited and not many people have such setups but the benchmarks and various comparisons I've checked showed pretty low scaling and framerate gains, it was a while since I checked things however so it's fully possible that newer drivers have improved the situation quite a bit.
(Which is very likely seeing that NVIDIA frequently updates their drivers and often improve performance both for single GPU cards and SLI configurations.)

Can't explain micro-stuttering that well either as it's a bit difficult to describe, it's like small lag spikes and minor pauses but it can be very difficult to notice and is also very dependant on framerate so perhaps the high framerate you get makes it less of a issue.
(Also varies from title to title.)

It's a nice setup though and it'll definitively last for quite a while.
(Large amount of RAM with good speeds and timings, multi-core processor and powerful graphics card - should be able to handle things quite well.)


Yeah I am happy enough with this pc,I would like to go 12gb ram and a few other things,but at some point I have to call it quits heh,I am going to leave it as it is before I go broke.

I don't think the old cards like the 9800gtx2 and the 7800gtx2 series used to scale very well in quadsli at all,but from my experience with the gtx 295,they seem to scale as good as my previous gtx 280 sli did,so far anyway.

Yeah I would actually like to see microstutter in action in a captured video,to know what it looks like,when you read about it on the net it's hard to get an idea of how microstutter would be in real life,thanks for trying to explain it anyway,I might play some games tommrorow and see if I can pick any up.

Yeah with the drivers they have improved over the last couple of sets,my only fear is I hope support for quadsli doesn't get worst down the track when nvidia brings out new cards,quadsli 295 probably won't be on their priority list when it comes to drivers.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 20:11    Post subject:
gazman2k3 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Hahaha Sabin, welcome back dude! Did you return from the UK?


Hey mate! Naw, still in the UK .. will be until next month unfortunately. I miss my girlfriend, damnit!! Sad

gazman2k3 wrote:


No Bullshit at all,60fps is actually possible.

I get between 58 to 60fps.


With settings lower than you claimed - and either way, I still don't believe it.

I also find it hilarious how everyone "suddenly" has £500 cpus, £500 motherboards, £400 RAM, £200 HDDs and £1000 GPUs. Awesome stuff.


There are no other settings to make higher besides the draw distance,anyhow you can believe it or don't believe it,it doesn't really make any difference to me I spose at the end of the day,I am an honest person,I said I could run the game at 60fps and I ment it,if that's your thing to go around and call people Lyers,then so be it.


now that u got kick ass pc which will become obsolete in couple of years and will cost 2-3 times less all u need to do is to change your nickname to 60fps and get yourself some english lessons Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 20:18    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
gazman2k3 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:


Hey mate! Naw, still in the UK .. will be until next month unfortunately. I miss my girlfriend, damnit!! Sad



With settings lower than you claimed - and either way, I still don't believe it.

I also find it hilarious how everyone "suddenly" has £500 cpus, £500 motherboards, £400 RAM, £200 HDDs and £1000 GPUs. Awesome stuff.


There are no other settings to make higher besides the draw distance,anyhow you can believe it or don't believe it,it doesn't really make any difference to me I spose at the end of the day,I am an honest person,I said I could run the game at 60fps and I ment it,if that's your thing to go around and call people Lyers,then so be it.


now that u got kick ass pc which will become obsolete in couple of years and will cost 2-3 times less all u need to do is to change your nickname to 60fps and get youself some english lessons Wink


Is that right,great advice there mate,I will deffently take what you said under consideration heh
Wink

Very wise bloke we got here,stating the obvious like that,I didn't know pc parts become obsolete in couple of years,thanks for pointing that out,dam,I wish I had of got your advice before hand.

By the way,next time you talk about someones english,it might pay to go back and have another read of your own post mate,heh if it had of gone on any longer I would of ran out of breath.


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 21:40    Post subject:
gazman2k3 wrote:


Is that right,great advice there mate,I will deffently take what you said under consideration heh
Wink


u are very welcome, glad i could help Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 22:24    Post subject:
LOL at people being jealous of his awesome rig, at least you should try and be not so obvious about it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 22:30    Post subject:
yeah, or gazman could try not to be so obvious when bragging about it
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 22:34    Post subject:
he could brag all he want, i just see absolutely no point investing so much cash in hardware that will be replaced by a better/faster in couple of years
besides no game requires this kinda setup atm, so even if i had some money to burn it would've been something much more usefull and long lasting

being jealous coz someone spent some cash on pc? palizzz
now being jealous if someone has a yacht, a castle and a plane
now there would be some point in that Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 22:41    Post subject:
Yup, I'm always jealous about a rig made out of Amazon shopping lists, lol.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 22:42    Post subject:
if you consider the performance gain / price increase, it doesn't make much sense, but whatever. some people buy brand clothes, others buy i7s and quad slis, it's the same thing, just in different circles, usually.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 23:33    Post subject:
Why the hell are you people posting irrelevant general hardware posts in a burnout paradise thread? Good going on derailing the topic.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Feb 2009 23:35    Post subject:
Marinou wrote:
Good going on derailing the topic.


Do we get applause and cookies?
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Feb 2009 02:41    Post subject:
was legendary car pack released for pc?
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Feb 2009 02:50    Post subject:
not yet, damn consoles


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