Arguing on the internet
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tikkietegek




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Feb 2009 23:33    Post subject: Arguing on the internet
It's wrong




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 00:48    Post subject:
hehehe Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 01:18    Post subject:
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 06:34    Post subject:
You know whats fun to do when your in a bad mood and wanna piss someone off?
Go on some Evangelical/Hardcore Christian chatroom and simply say "You guys know the Bible is not legitimate HISTORICAL FACT right?". LOL

That one comment will get everyone upset and i swear, ive heard some stupid shit from those people....like completely absurd. Stuff the Church doesn't even say is true lol

Fun times Smile


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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 06:50    Post subject:
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thats mean man

don't make fun of mentally of physically handicapped people.


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 06:53    Post subject:
^you for real?
welcome to the internet buddy
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 07:16    Post subject:
Welcome to the internet?

Huh?

Making fun of handicapped people isn't acceptable anywhere. Called having morals.
Would you start making fun of someone in a wheel chair if you saw them on the street? No. So why is it ok on the Internet? Because its anonymous? That doesn't make it right or acceptable.


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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 07:23    Post subject:
there are far more worse images out there anyway why makes this one soo bad? just take a look at epic thread >>

wise man once wrote "The Internet is a shallow and unreliable electronic repository of dirty pictures, inaccurate rumors, bad spelling and worse grammar, inhabited largely by people with no demonstrable social skills."


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 07:25    Post subject:
nono, its not the image. its just that making fun of handicapped people isn't cool at all. Image or no image, its not right.
A person can't help it if they are physically or mentally challenged so why make fun of them you know?

And so we are clear Hijacker, Im not coming down on you....i'm just saying in general and whoever made that pic has very bad taste and a sick sense of humour.


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FireMaster




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 07:28    Post subject:
it's not about anonymity, in real life you can get sued and prosecuted for doing that, on the internet no
I must admit I have a sick sense of humor and I laugh at those kind of jokes, guess it does have something to do with me being an asshole IRL though Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 07:30    Post subject:
I tend to find people are more afraid of getting their ass kicked than being sued.


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 07:31    Post subject:
lol last thing I'm afraid of is getting beat up, trust me I got nothing to lose on that matter cuz I bite
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 07:32    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
lol last thing I'm afraid of is getting beat up, trust me I got nothing to lose on that matter cuz I bite


Laughing Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 07:32    Post subject:
Very Happy
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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Feb 2009 14:28    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Welcome to the internet?

Huh?

Making fun of handicapped people isn't acceptable anywhere. Called having morals.
Would you start making fun of someone in a wheel chair if you saw them on the street? No. So why is it ok on the Internet? Because its anonymous? That doesn't make it right or acceptable.


Why would it need to be right or acceptable it's the internet man, anything goes. And I acnt belive you have not seen that image before.



It's fun and true.
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 08:01    Post subject:
Actually no I haven't.

And while "anything may go" on the internet, doesn't mean its right.

It's fun making funny of challenged people?
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It's fun and true.


So, then its ok for me to make fun of the school you attend? As it is clear its no ordinary school. Possibly a school for "socially retarded" kids? I don't know and frankly, I don't really care.

My point is, its not acceptable imo. It's not like those people have chosen to be that way...then yes, it would be funny and acceptable. But they are born like that and do the best they can and try as hard as they can to be accepted into society. And ignorant people who make fun of them just because of a disability are fuckin heartless assholes.

One my the best thing's ive done in my life was when I was teaching martial arts in a regular club, I volunteered to teach a handicapped class. Some of the kids had down syndrome or physical disabilities and whatever. Obviously, I couldn't teach them serious fighting skills...what we taught them was basic stuff and Kata's but they had a great time and felt normal (whats normal anyway?). And when they were graded and moved up a belt, they'd get so happy and they'd get that sense of accomplishment everyone else gets when they do something.
Thats the exact same thing as the Special Olympics. Those kids/people worked hard to get there and that in it's self is an accomplishment. Just because some may look or talk oddly, doesn't mean they deserve to be made fun of.

Didn't you say that you were made fun of a lot and bullied in highschool? How did it make you feel? Why would you do it to someone else?
And before you say "Well, we don't have any 'retards' on the forum so it doesn't matter etc"...I'm sure someone here, whether they are a guest or a regular knows someone or has someone in their family who has some sort of disability. And I'm sure it hurts them.

Just because your not communicating face to face with people doesn't mean you can disregard good judgement and morality.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 09:58    Post subject:
This is not the real world, judgment and morality is not needed here. Im free to tell all those bad joke I think about every day, those jokes we don’t dare to tell but we know we are all thinking it.

And as you have worked with them, I can understand you having a problem with the jokes, you could do like me and don’t relate to the real world as much then you are on the internet, just like I do.So it dose not have to be right. As the "right" you are looking for only applies in the real world.

And the school im at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folkhogskola either you failed at high school or just want to test something new.

I was bullied yes, but that was in the real world. Here it dose not matter.

You ask "It's fun making funny of challenged people?" Yes it is, here, but not out there.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 11:46    Post subject:
Karmeck wrote:

You ask "It's fun making funny of challenged people?" Yes it is, here, but not out there.


that just doesn't add up for me! So racism is ok on the net too, just because this isn't the real world? I think the same moral standards apply on the net, why should it be different?

When it's okay here to make fun of challenged people, then it's okay to make fun about black people, World war II, midgets...I mean where does it end?

Imo people should use the same standards on the net as in real life...I'm not a saint, but when someone is offended and eplains this in a normal matter then it should be respected.


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Karmeck




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 12:24    Post subject:
It has ofcause to be in a conetex, just look at south park, they have made fun of evrything even midgets.

Or look at this one, it is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly funny, dont make me a racist,

http://img.moronail.net/img/3/2/532.jpg

But damn you if you tell that joke in real life. Still funny tho.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 12:46    Post subject:
Karmeck wrote:
It has ofcause to be in a conetex, just look at south park, they have made fun of evrything even midgets.

Or look at this one, it is reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly funny, dont make me a racist,

http://img.moronail.net/img/3/2/532.jpg

But damn you if you tell that joke in real life. Still funny tho.


Okay, I have to admit, that was pretty damn funny. Sick, but funny. It's the expressions and the fact that you could really see the conversation play out like that, that make it so hilarious.
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tikkietegek




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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Mar 2009 07:49    Post subject:
i agree with syco. making fun of handicapped people with the intent to hurt them is morally wrong, but the pictures above aren't meant to do that, they are a form of harsher internet humor(like the suicide/anti-god jokes in the epic thread) Some people might be offended by that, but that's the risk of going onto a board like this, where freedom of speech is taken quite litteraly.

The perfect example was supplied today by explosm.net



The joke involves a handicapped person, but it doesn't intentionally tries to hurt him.


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Mar 2009 17:30    Post subject:
Ironic that people are arguing in this thread Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Mar 2009 23:11    Post subject:
tobycoaster wrote:
Ironic that people are arguing in this thread Rolling Eyes


LMAO. Looks a Syco. LMAO... Mahahahahahaha. So true, so true.

Morality police to the rescue.


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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 18:01    Post subject:
Bigperm wrote:
tobycoaster wrote:
Ironic that people are arguing in this thread Rolling Eyes


LMAO. Looks a Syco. LMAO... Mahahahahahaha. So true, so true.

Morality police to the rescue.


Arguing a debating are 2 different things Wink An argument implies I'm angry, which would be an incorrect assessment


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 19:38    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:

So, then its ok for me to make fun of the school you attend? As it is clear its no ordinary school. Possibly a school for "socially retarded" kids? I don't know and frankly, I don't really care.

You can, but even you would now its not true. These things are so funny because in a non laughing matter way they are true and just funny.

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My point is, its not acceptable imo. It's not like those people have chosen to be that way...then yes, it would be funny and acceptable. But they are born like that and do the best they can and try as hard as they can to be accepted into society. And ignorant people who make fun of them just because of a disability are fuckin heartless assholes.

They didnt choose for it true, but then you cant make jokes about race, about women or men, cause they didnt choose it either. A dumb blonde joke would be unacceptable according to that logic. Its not because they are retarded or something else that they should get a special treatment. Everyone deserves to be treated the same way. So you can make jokes at retarded people just the same as you would make a joke about your friends curly hair

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Didn't you say that you were made fun of a lot and bullied in highschool? How did it make you feel? Why would you do it to someone else?

Its uncompareable

Another question, how many retarded friends do you have syco? I honestly dont want to associate with retarded people, does this make me a bad person? If yes, its only cause i say what most people think


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