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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 13:41    Post subject:
am watching a tv series

"Empire - How Britain Made The Modern World"

Pretty good. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 13:44    Post subject:
crap.. where is this game?!?!
i'm getting medieval 2 total war + expansion right now Very Happy

never played the expasion Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 13:51    Post subject:
don't forget to watch master & commander aswell Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 15:36    Post subject:
MannyK wrote:
crap.. where is this game?!?!
i'm getting medieval 2 total war + expansion right now Very Happy

never played the expasion Sad


Dont forget the Shattered Steel mod!!
And then once you got everything installed and ready, ETW comes out Very Happy Very Happy

edit: damn thanks for the tip, im gonna watch master & commander tonight actually, never saw it


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 15:50    Post subject:
So what exactly is the special edition then? Couple of extra units and a glossy map?
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 15:55    Post subject:
 Spoiler:
 

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Product Features

* The core Empire: Total War game. The Creative Assembly introduces high seas battles to the award winning, multi-million unit selling Total War series in this action-packed epic set in the 18th Century.
* Special Forces Edition includes six additional Special Forces units include: HMS Victory, Rogers' Rangers, Ottoman Organ Gun, Ghoorkas, CorsoTerrestre Guerillas, Bulkeley's Regiment .
* Also includes an Intricate Campaign Map. Only in the Special Forces edition, players will receive a fold-out Campaign Map that they can use in the single-player campaign to help them strategize their world take-over.
* Includes The History Channel Revolution DVD. The award winning series tells of a remarkable group who transformed themselves into architects of the future and built a new nation unlike any that had come before
* Includes The Art of Empire: Total War art book. Complete with concept art, fans will love this behind-the-scenes look at the vision of Empire: Total War.


Maybe mentioned here somewhere, but why does the soldiers in the 1st line don't kneel for?, normally the 1st line would kneel to get the 2nd line a better line of fire. Not that it really matters, but looks sort a weird.




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 16:06    Post subject:
Wondering what is all that talk bout new shits in MP mode . . .


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 16:10    Post subject:
According to Wiki
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Multiplayer:

Multiplayer comes in two forms in Empire: Total War. As with previous Total War titles, players can engage in real-time battles against each other either by creating the composition of their armies themselves, or reenacting historical battles. However, following a one-month delay of Empire: Total War in January 2009, the addition of a full campaign multiplayer mode was unveiled. The technology to create a multiplayer campaign game was not available in previous Total War games, and the extended development time allowed the Creative Assembly to implement the underlying technology for such a mode in Empire: Total War. The campaign multiplayer mode will first be tested in a two-player beta build, before eventually being made available in a post-release patch.


More here LINK




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 16:11    Post subject:
Sexie wrote:
Wondering what is all that talk bout new shits in MP mode . . .


They better improve network code so 4vs4 becomes playable again!
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 16:16    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:

Maybe mentioned here somewhere, but why does the soldiers in the 1st line don't kneel for?, normally the 1st line would kneel to get the 2nd line a better line of fire. Not that it really matters, but looks sort a weird.


Once you research the "Rank Fire" ability - the first 3 rows of a formation will fire sequentially, one kneeling for the next to fire. Someone on the forums modded this ability into the demo and released a short 5 second clip of it. Needless to say, it looked badass.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 16:32    Post subject:
Actually found that it is not really true historically
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1st, 2nd and 3rd Rank During the Firefight.
Most experts considered kneeling 1st rank good only
for the infantry formed in square against cavalry.

Napoleonic infantry was formed on 3 ranks. A 600-men strong battalion had 200 men in the first, 200 in second and 200 men in the third rank. The first two ranks loaded and fired, while - theoretically - the 3rd rank had to load their muskets and then give them to those in 2nd rank.

In reality it was very difficult to keep them doing this under fire. They would become excited once the battle commenced and would blaze away through the first two ranks. Passing the barrels of their muskets over the shoulders of 2nd rank, the muzzles were very near the ears and heads of the first rank. The loud discharge, heat and powder so close to ears, head and eyes were quite disturbing for the first rank. Sometimes fingers and elbows were shot away, and if the bursting percussion caps were too close to the ears of 2nd and 1st rankers their eardrums could be damaged.

Gouvion St. Cyr claimed that 1 in 4 casualties were inflicted by own 3rd rank. For these reasons they not suppose to fire.
The Russian recruits were trained to fire by two ranks. The first and second rank fired their first shots, file-by-file and then loaded and fired as quickly as possible. Each man in the 2nd rank, having fired his musket, passed it to the man in the 3rd rank standing behind it, took his musket, fired, loaded it, fired again and then returned it to the man in the 3rd rank and took his own musket from him, and so on. Men in the 3rd rank did not fire at all. They only loaded muskets and passed them on to the second rank. This method was borrowed from the French and often caused confusion.

Theoretically the men of 1st rank would be kneeling and firing - it gave more space for those standing in the 2nd rank. Some veterans (for example Tanski) declared that they never saw among the French troops kneeling and firing soldiers as was prescribed by instructions. If they were kneeling and firing it was difficult to get them stand up and advance. Kneeling soldier presented a much smaller target for the enemy and he wanted to keep this advantage as long as he could.
Kneeling by the 1st rank when firing was abolished in the Austrian infantry already before the 1809 campaign.
By this time kneeling in the Russian infantry as considered as idiocy.

Most experts considered kneeling 1st rank good only for the infantry formed in square against cavalry.

SOURCE, GOOD SITE

1st line kneeling would look good but Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 17:13    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
Actually found that it is not really true historically


Hey, I never said it was true - just what was implemented in the game. That said, TW games always sacrifice historical accuracy for playability and panache - and in this case it seems a worthy tradeoff.

Sigh...where are those magical people when ya need em? All these shitty releases ahead of time and not even a whisper in regards to what EVERYONE is waiting for...hint hint nudge nudge...


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 17:25    Post subject:
btw this game will benefit from games for windows ? will it come with g4wl key ?


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 17:35    Post subject:
damador. wrote:
btw this game will benefit from games for windows ? will it come with g4wl key ?


It uses STEAM for multiplayer as well as patches, so no, no G4WL key included.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 17:42    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
CaptainCox wrote:

Maybe mentioned here somewhere, but why does the soldiers in the 1st line don't kneel for?, normally the 1st line would kneel to get the 2nd line a better line of fire. Not that it really matters, but looks sort a weird.


Once you research the "Rank Fire" ability - the first 3 rows of a formation will fire sequentially, one kneeling for the next to fire. Someone on the forums modded this ability into the demo and released a short 5 second clip of it. Needless to say, it looked badass.



Indeed. It looks nice.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 18:34    Post subject:

holy shit
add mount&blade gameplay and command couriers to that and you've got a perfect battle simulator
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:05    Post subject:
Just modded the demo, super easy to do the "Rank-Fire" mod.


Instructions here LINK

To break it down.
Do the Python and unpacker 1st

After your folder should look like this


Look in
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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\empire total war demo\data\Scenarios

Open the
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battle_of_brandywine
XML using "Notepad"

What you need to do is change ONE line
Each company or battalion looks like this
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</unit>
<unit unit_category="infantry" num_soldiers="80" script_name="britain_euro_highlanders">
<unit_type type="euro_highlanders"/>
<position x="-80.72" y="494.55"/>
<orientation radians="2.60"/>
<width metres="29.58"/>
<unit_capabilities>
<firing_drill>fire_volley</firing_drill>
<special_ability>square_formation</special_ability>
<bayonet_type>ring_bayonets</bayonet_type>
</unit_capabilities>
<unit_experience level="0"/>


Notice the line
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<firing_drill>fire_volley</firing_drill>

change that line for all battalions you want to use "Rank Fire"
to this
Quote:
<firing_drill>rank_fire</firing_drill>


You can also change the number of men and many other things here.

As you will have the "Unpacked" folder as back up in case something goes wrong, just start playing around with those files and have fun.




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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:12    Post subject:
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think i shall watch waterloo everyday till friday Razz


Watch the movie "Battle for Poltova", very nice flick from that era which takes on the war between Russia and Sweden.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:25    Post subject:
Also don't forget about best film about that period (and probably the most beautiful film ever), Barry Lyndon.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:27    Post subject:
Yea that is a good film. Stanley Kubrick FTW. The film was shot using only candle light (indoors scenes) to get the right sorta 17th century feel to it.


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:28    Post subject:
The Napoleon series with Christian Clavier, Gerard Depardeu, Isabella Rosselini and John Malkovich is simply brilliant. Alot of battles in that series and it's very well done when it comes to details Very Happy

Barry Lyndon is one of my all time favourite movies.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:31    Post subject:
My fav of the period must be Master and Commander but. The level of accurate historical detail in that film is absolutely incredible. Mind you, in the book they fought an American ship and not a French, and the film is sort of a miss match of at least 2-3 books (read them all 25 in total i think...as audio books of course)


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:33    Post subject:
Agreed, Master and Commander is a fantastic period film, very well done.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:33    Post subject:
CaptainCox wrote:
My fav of the period must be Master and Commander but. The level of accurate historical detail in that film is absolutely incredible. Mind you, in the book they fought an American ship and not a French, and the film is sort of a miss match of at least 2-3 books (read them all 25 in total i think...as audio books of course)


totally agree. Fantastic movie with some brillirant acting by Crowe.
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 19:53    Post subject:
Just seen this upped on couple of forums now
Empire: Total War - Razor 1911
anyone know if this real? it contains 155 files 100mb each
post came with no nfo or anything just links

EDIT : ehhh, I assume its fake, it was same guy who posted all those links on different boards..I guess he wants more rapidshare points >>


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 20:10    Post subject:
fake... just like

The Sims 3 - Beta 1 - Razor 1911

lulz
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 20:24    Post subject:
besthijacker wrote:
Just seen this upped on couple of forums now
Empire: Total War - Razor 1911
anyone know if this real? it contains 155 files 100mb each
post came with no nfo or anything just links

EDIT : ehhh, I assume its fake, it was same guy who posted all those links on different boards..I guess he wants more rapidshare points >>


her 1 of them is me and i just coppied the post and added info that i just saw it dunno if it works Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 20:54    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
The Sims 3 - Beta 1 - Razor 1911

OMG OMG for real??/
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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 20:55    Post subject:
Well, I ordered mine on STEAM. Disappointed you can't pre-load it though. I don't want to have to download it on the day?


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PostPosted: Sun, 1st Mar 2009 21:25    Post subject:
50€ and no preloading? wow that sucks...
I was thinking about getting it on steam so I can play it asap, but I think I'll just order a boxed copy from the UK instead, considering it's only like 32€ with shipping.


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