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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:01    Post subject:
@broken crow: there's a difference between behaving like a spoiled child and just posting silly comments to kill time till the DL finishes Very Happy
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Sajuuk_Khar




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Location: TM, RO
PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:02    Post subject:
well, i've installled the Rzr release and it works flawless. i haven't experienced any sound problems yet. i haven't played that much (it's late and got work tomorrow). haven't tried the campaign people say it's not working as it should but i can assure you the Grand campaign (conquer x territories and win -> RTW,MTW, M2TW map) is working ok.
allready i've seen a few things that i like (less than 30min playtime):
- the map divided in 3 main sections
- map subsections of some kind of importance (military & trade); there is something in this sections that i haven't tried and have no idea what it does exactly
-every land region has a regional town/city + region expansions and you have to expand not only the regional town but also it's expansions (ex: expanded farms => population growth in that region)

regarding the install, i know i was asked a few times in order to load the same file from dvd2. the install lasted for about 10-15min


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BrokenCrow




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:06    Post subject:
bushwacka wrote:
@broken crow: there's a difference between behaving like a spoiled child and just posting silly comments to kill time till the DL finishes Very Happy


Nah, there is something called CHECKING YOUR WORK. A practice you are obviously painfully unaware of.

As I stated previously, missing embedded CD checks/secuROM triggers etc etc is all good when it comes to fast releases. I have no problem with that at all. But missing SOUND and the fact that the FIRST mission of the FIRST campaign crashes is nonsense.

I finished the DL yesterday about an hour after the pre and I've already uninstalled the Pir8 version and moved it to storage.

I'll either buy it in a few days or try it again when the "proper" is released. No stress, but I don't see the need to defend what amounts to sloppy work.

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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:11    Post subject:
Ok then.You checked their work and it is obviously not good for you.What's the point now continuing this?


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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:12    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
Ok then.You checked their work and it is obviously not good for you.What's the point now continuing this?

He's ranting about a ridiculously screwed-up release. Nothing strange about that. Now stuff it.

EDIT: Sajuuk obviously played just a little.


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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:12    Post subject:
@Sajuuk_Khar: interesting, good to hear there's ppl who have no problems (yet) with this release...did you actually use the sound fix or do anything differently?

oh and please try out the road to independence campaign and report back if there's any crashes
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javlar




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Location: Kalmar, Sweden
PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:18    Post subject:
Gentlemen. Be nice and buy the game. It's one of those over-awesome games that PC-gamers rarely get any more.

My legit copy worked from the get go and it's motherfucking shitloads of fun. I have just finished the Road to Independence and will start a grand campaign tomorrow.

I managed to get both John Smith and George Washington killed in battles. John was killed by a rain of arrows fired by the native americans and Georgie got a cannonball through his face. History as we know it is fucked!



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Surray




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:20    Post subject:
Played it for a few hours now and I'm extremely happy with the game so far.
I'm a total war veteran, played every total war game for countless hours, and I'd say the magnitude of the changes in this game are on par, or even higher than with the jump from medieval to rome.

so much is different that I found it all pretty damn confusing at first. Don't expect to feel right at home on the campaign map when starting out. it'll take a while to get used to everything.

drastic changes to recruitment, taxation, construction as well as a full fledged research tree really turn everything you think you know about total war upside down Razz
naval stuff has also improved, with the real time naval battles obviously, as well as the possibility to have fleets raid enemy trade routes for income, and more.

eventhough I'm not particularly fond of the time period at the moment, I think this game is in the process of making me change my mind Smile

my verdict: must buy for any total war fan!

now excuse me, I have cities to conquer.


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noxxle




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:30    Post subject:
How are the load times compared to the Demo?
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jcx




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:38    Post subject:
noxxle wrote:
How are the load times compared to the Demo?


little faster but not so much
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$n@ke




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Location: the Netherlands
PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:50    Post subject:
Get your digital copy of the manual here.
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gizmo5096




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 00:50    Post subject:
With sound fix the game seems to be working good minus the Road to Independence crash issue. The Razor installer still crashes on initial installation but all u have to do is move the contents off Disc 1 to the game directory (the exe and some other stuff - just overwrite what is in the installed directory).

Has anyone played a lot of the campaign (outside of R. to I.) without crashes?

Nice find on the manual by the way... thx
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 01:06    Post subject:
The "sound fix" is just the demo's sound pack, which means:

- It probably lacks a considerable amount of sounds.
- The sounds themselves are of lower quality than the retail version's.

It barely qualifies as a temporary solution.
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shittingaround




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 01:51    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
The "sound fix" is just the demo's sound pack, which means:

- It probably lacks a considerable amount of sounds.
- The sounds themselves are of lower quality than the retail version's.

It barely qualifies as a temporary solution.


well for me it is, it's a lot better than with the sounds of the razor's release.
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JudgeUK




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 02:13    Post subject:
Just posted a possible workaround in the tech forum for the RTI campaign crashing. Hope it can work for you guys...


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darthmalak




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Location: Argentina
PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 02:32    Post subject:
JudgeUK wrote:
Just posted a possible workaround in the tech forum for the RTI campaign crashing. Hope it can work for you guys...


post that here too?


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Immunity




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 02:34    Post subject:
I've played my retail copy for a few hours now -

I had a strange glitch where the defending force would just run back and forth on their deployment area and never attack - total death-toll was about 600 on their side, 0 on mine (hard difficulty).

Other than that I'm having a blast. Raping some serious native ass. I'd prefer to be raping Pocahontas' ass but I haven't found the bitch Very Happy


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Avengence




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 03:07    Post subject:
I cannot get the razor release to work. I keep trying to install it and then when it gets to the end I copy the exe and all the stuff from the first DVD and then try to run it and it doesnt run. Asks for a steam_api.dll or something. If I put that file in there then it says it cant find the entrance point or something for the file. Anyone know why this isnt working for me? What am I doing wrong?
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sueil




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 03:59    Post subject:
Wow just had a disappointing crashing. Playing my legal steam version on the grand campaign, took over a city in france, battle was over, hit the check mark... crash to desktop. Lost all my progress since last save. Gonna need to take some time off before I feel like playing again.
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gizmo5096




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 04:08    Post subject:
SNAGGED FROM ANOTHER SITE - POSSIBLE CRASH FIX

"Possible workaround for the road to independence crash bug, got it somewhere else. I didnt try it though, cause I deleted the whole thing, will try tomorrow:

"Guys, I think I have found the solution -

When installing the razor release, when it gets to DVD 2 and it asks for the file disk2_0.sid agree with it and point it in the files direction which is on the DVD.

It then asks for file disk2_1.sid. Again, agree with it and point it in that files location.

Then, after a while, it pops up again asking for disk2_1.sid again. I think it's missing out disk2_2.sid so what I did, rather than point it at disk2_1.sid again, i selected "all files" and pointed it at disk2_2.sid rather than what it wanted.

It carried on installing and then asked for disk2_1.sid again. Yet again, I pointed it disk2_2.sid and it carried on installing again. The installer then quit.

I then loaded it up and selected the road to independance campaign - Voila - i'm now on chapter 3 with NO crashes or freezes. Everything appears to be working fine - at least for me. Try it."
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MegaRoll




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 04:11    Post subject:
gizmo5096 wrote:
SNAGGED FROM ANOTHER SITE - POSSIBLE CRASH FIX

"Possible workaround for the road to independence crash bug, got it somewhere else. I didnt try it though, cause I deleted the whole thing, will try tomorrow:

"Guys, I think I have found the solution -

When installing the razor release, when it gets to DVD 2 and it asks for the file disk2_0.sid agree with it and point it in the files direction which is on the DVD.

It then asks for file disk2_1.sid. Again, agree with it and point it in that files location.

Then, after a while, it pops up again asking for disk2_1.sid again. I think it's missing out disk2_2.sid so what I did, rather than point it at disk2_1.sid again, i selected "all files" and pointed it at disk2_2.sid rather than what it wanted.

It carried on installing and then asked for disk2_1.sid again. Yet again, I pointed it disk2_2.sid and it carried on installing again. The installer then quit.

I then loaded it up and selected the road to independance campaign - Voila - i'm now on chapter 3 with NO crashes or freezes. Everything appears to be working fine - at least for me. Try it."
by another site do you mean the nfohump technical forum?

EDIT: i just tried the fix. after the first battle it hangs at the loading screen (still no progression). sound is still not fixed
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sueil




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 04:35    Post subject:
Well awesome, went back to playing, captured the same city again, crashed to desktop exactly the same.
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 05:06    Post subject:
Just had an awesome moment. It was 3 British frigates vs. one French brig.

I lined my ships up single line, and queued Broadside on all 3. As my Admiral's flagship passed by about 10 feet from the enemy brig, I let loose. Instantly, the entire ship exploded into smithereens! Bodies everywhere.

Of course, in my excitement I forgot to save the goddamn replay Sad


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Ragtag




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 05:11    Post subject:
if a sid file is missing a considerable amount of data is not being installed . Nothing can fix that other than getting hands on the missing sid file. You will get crashes without it.
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darthmalak




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 05:13    Post subject:
we need another release :S


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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 06:25    Post subject:
I have the retail and I am getting crashes every so often... which sucks because it is usually after I pull something pretty good off against the odds.
That is starting to get a little old.


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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 06:27    Post subject:
This isn't a G4WL title, right guys? So hopefully there will be a patch soon to fix the problems... Sad
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dominae
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 06:33    Post subject:
Well, it's pretty obvious that the Razor-release's fault is in the installer, and particularly for the second DVD.

Those who haven't tried, install once, and then retry, but after running the installer the second time, instead of pointing to the first file on the first DVD, point to the first file on the second.


I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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darthmalak




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 07:39    Post subject:
I dont know if i should post these here, so in advance sorry Razz (but anyway i posted in the other section)

The files are different from the razor release to retail?

Maybe who owns the retail could upload the file sound X.pack to some place (so, these maybe can be a "proper" fix)

But then we will be need another fix to the crash in the road to indepence, so something like a fix for the fix

But i am sure about the razor installer is the problem like it says some guy from around here in no time touch the installation file disk2_2.sid

I think these release, should be nuked ? Because:
a) bad installer
b) the package files, not the same as retail?


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csebal




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PostPosted: Thu, 5th Mar 2009 08:12    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
fearwhatnow wrote:
Ok then.You checked their work and it is obviously not good for you.What's the point now continuing this?

He's ranting about a ridiculously screwed-up release. Nothing strange about that. Now stuff it.

EDIT: Sajuuk obviously played just a little.


Actually, there is..

Ranting about something not working you've paid for is okay. Ranting about something not working you got for free is not.

Ever heard the phrase: Don't look a gift horse in the mouth?

I mean.. he is the type of ungrateful whiny b*tch, that makes people quit and not work for communities.
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