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LuckyStrike
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lhzr
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| LuckyStrike wrote: | | well i just installed the last OFFICIAL patch, the next community patch is nearing right? |
huh?
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 20:36 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Oh and the GTX-260 isn't faster than the 4870 (not even the c216 version) - it's just that some games are optimised for nVidia and not ATi  |
Tehehe, less bias more facts:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/top-10-games-with-radeon-4870-1-gb--geforce-gtx-260-core-216-test/9
| Quote: | | The results speak for themselves, out of the 6 titles that we have shown you today, NVIDIA was able to pull ahead on the vast majority with it's GTX 260 core 216 (with regular clock frequencies). It's very typical for NVIDIA as usually, after half a year when you compare the numbers among driver releases, they roughly tweak out another 10% maybe 15% performance. |
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LuckyStrike
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 21:13 Post subject: |
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LuckyStrike
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 21:47 Post subject: |
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I was just doing that for you too ^_^
They posted the change-log on the main site, but I couldn't see anything that said saves were incompatible .. and neither could I see anything that said they ARE compatible. Gah.
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accountbroken
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 21:59 Post subject: |
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As I said before; certain games are optimised for nVidia (TWIMTBP incentive program for developers, it's just a shame ATi doesn't have something similar) - and some games are more suited to ATi cards.
Here's ANOTHER look;
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3408&p=1
Out of 7 games, ATi won 3 - nVidia won 3 and they were tied for the seventh.
Besides, this is all moot anyway. You get what you want and that's all there is to it, right? Nobody can say "don't get that!!!11" - it's all down to both personal preference and per-game basis. Each card is spectacular in its own right - and they're both priced extremely competitively now.
Just get which one appeals to you more and have fun! ^_^
(oh and that article is comparing the c216 to the 512MB 4870, not the 1GB model)
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Updated Anandtech article for the 1GB 4870. Note I am NOT trying to sway the argument, merely offering a different perspective (and there is no bias either, I chose ATi over nVidia as a moral choice. I dislike nVidia's business practice of rebadging older cards and selling them as "new" models at price premiums)
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3415&p=8
=Edit v2=
This is my final post, in this thread, on this matter. I'm not getting another "off-topic!11!!!zomg111!!!" ban again  If you want to debate the merits and demerits of each card, let's set up a thread in the Tech section.
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LuckyStrike
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 23:51 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | I was just doing that for you too ^_^
They posted the change-log on the main site, but I couldn't see anything that said saves were incompatible .. and neither could I see anything that said they ARE compatible. Gah. |
List of all known information about the Patch 1.70 until now:
Estimated release date in march (when there will be no heavy problems again)
Patch is only for original Gothic 3, not for the add-on
Size: between 800-1000MB
Contain all previous patch versions, including Patch 1.12
Patch can installed over each version (but it is recommendable to make a complete new Gothic 3 installation)
installed modifications must delete (or make a backup) before installing the patch because modifications will be not compatible with the Patch 1.70
Patch is for all languages
Begin a new game is a must
Savegames from version 1.60 and before are not compatible and will be not shown in the menu
around 700 changelog entries (with every small changes and world changes there are several thousands bugfixes)
Sword sound, weather sounds
Alternative Balancing (changes at items like weapons, armors, perks, magic etc.); can be switched on/off but after that restart the game; this balancing replaces not the original fight system but it is only alternative
Hero can attack by 1-3 enemies in melee fight at the same time (depend on the difficulty); work only with activated alternave balancing
new AI (new melee fight system); can also be switched on/off; opponents are much smarter and better
increase performance (depend of the computer of the player)
Release of Humanforce's quest package later (first in German, later in English)
From that i take it saves from 1.12 wont work, dang.
Anyway the game is playing well now, and is so huge, that when i finish this the new gothic in the oven is allready out 
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 00:20 Post subject: |
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Could someone tell me a good place to buy a downloadable copy of this game that would work with the community patch? Direct2drive copies are notorious as being difficult to modify, plus it costs way to much off them.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 01:14 Post subject: |
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Have you tried the Steam version, mate? They're usually the same as retail, mostly, and should be moddable.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 16:02 Post subject: |
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are the patches copy protected? or did they drop it now?
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lhzr
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 16:08 Post subject: |
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the community patches removed the protection entirely a long time ago.
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javlar
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 16:13 Post subject: |
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Is this game worth getting now? I never tried it (or its predecessors) mostly due to the "omglol over 9000 bugs" posts.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 16:31 Post subject: |
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if you want to play gothic go ahead with gothic 2 and the addon. much much much much much.......better than g3. although i'm thinking about playing g3 with the new patch again
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 16:56 Post subject: |
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how's the map with this latest patch? are there quest markers on it?
i'm asking because last time i tried g3, i couldn't find shit. finding a location needed for completing a quest meant i had to walk around randomly until i stumbled upon it.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 17:09 Post subject: |
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nop, no markers, i'm currently using a mod that changes the map, with markers for the main quest items and locations only
gothic 3 in-game-map -> http://www.worldofgothic.com/dl/?go=dlfile&fileid=114 -> rename the file from gui.p02 to gui.p00 and drop it in the data folder
oh and after 12 hours of continuous play and intensive alt-tabing i finnaly got a ctd ..sigh
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 18:02 Post subject: |
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yes the markers are permanent although you can find everything else here.. for "desktop" use ^
http://forum.jowood.com/showthread.php?t=134771
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