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maul_inc




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 12:05    Post subject:
Please lock this thread until there is a scene release. It has already degenerated into a steaming pile of shit.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 12:07    Post subject:
Oh boo hoo. Nobody is forcing you to read it.
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maul_inc




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 12:14    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Oh boo hoo. Nobody is forcing you to read it.


Well, congratulations, you have just proven my point Rolling Eyes
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 12:16    Post subject:
maul_inc wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Oh boo hoo. Nobody is forcing you to read it.


Well, congratulations, you have just proven my point Rolling Eyes


Hardly. I know a lot of you whine about "on-topic" - but we are all still discussing this game and the protection related to it. There's only so much you CAN discuss about a game barely anyone here has even got.

So you're basically saying that every thread created about a game should be locked, immediately after the initial template, until the scene release comes out? Yeah, good going Mr Gestapo.
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Rage




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 12:18    Post subject:
What we have so far:

1. Renaming the Tagesclient.dat in the The Chronicles of Riddick - Assault on Dark Athena\System\Win32_x86 to something else, then trying to start the game results in the game asking for the original TCOR dvd to be inserted.

2. Replacing the dvm.dll file in the same folder, with the dvm.dll file from the Crazy Machines 2 game, which uses the same protection, then mounting a mini image of that game, results in the game crashing, after reading the disk.

So we either need someone to just crack the darkathena.exe of its cd check, or a mini-image of the original TCOR DVD.

Its been done before.


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rock




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 12:28    Post subject:
Today starforce its a best choise for pirating, all you need its starforce driver, with it you can play almost every game Smile
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 12:32    Post subject:
rock wrote:
Today starforce its a best choise for pirating, all you need its starforce driver, with it you can play almost every game Smile

No, because it doesn't work on 64bit operating systems.
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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 12:55    Post subject:
rock wrote:
Today starforce its a best choise for pirating, all you need its starforce driver, with it you can play almost every game Smile

yeah...except those new games you REALLY want to play Laughing
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M4trix




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 18:18    Post subject:
Hi,

well, we can talk here about copy protection days and nights but like Frant said in some post before, the problem is not in the protection, the problem is on the scene. It's cripled, it's damaged, vanished etc. Dunno, maybe they don't want to mess around with this sh*t anymore!? or lack of talented coders in the scene? or afraid of getting busted and jailed etc..etc. If you think I'm talking BS, look who's left on the scene. Sad
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Mas3ter




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 18:18    Post subject:
_ULTiMA_ wrote:
An interesting thing is that the Riddick executable uses an older version of SolidShield and TAGES, when compared to STALKER Clear Sky:

Quote:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky:
TAGES: v5.5.4.1

xrEngine.exe
[!] SolidShield v01.09.07.03 detected !

dvm.dll
[!] SolidShield Core.dll v1, 9, 7, 3


Quote:
Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
TAGES: v5.5.3.6

DarkAthena.exe
[!] SolidShield v01.00.00.01 detected !

dvm.dll
[!] SolidShield Core.dll [unknown version]


The problem is not TAGES, that is just eyecandy. The updated protection is probably in the dvm.dll file.

The good news is, that RELOADED have cracked some games with SolidShield + TAGES, and SolidSHield + Tages + Serial before.




good news i hope crack out soon Smile
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_ULTiMA_




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 18:29    Post subject:
M4trix wrote:
Hi,

well, we can talk here about copy protection days and nights but like Frant said in some post before, the problem is not in the protection, the problem is on the scene. It's cripled, it's damaged, vanished etc. Dunno, maybe they don't want to mess around with this sh*t anymore!? or lack of talented coders in the scene? or afraid of getting busted and jailed etc..etc. If you think I'm talking BS, look who's left on the scene. Sad

The Scene is not dead, groups are.

Some leave for a variety of reasons, some get married and have more to worry about, some get another job, like archeology, fishing.

The part were some leave for a variety of reasons can include travel, health problems, or even death, people know about this things... right?

Every living thing is like dust, it appears and disappears, either by something that "cleans" it or by itself with time.

Anyway, "what's done it's done". There's 3 ways to do this, wait, crack yourself, or kill yourself. All of them will solve your problem(s) quickly.
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Cedge




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 18:52    Post subject:
M4trix wrote:
Hi,

well, we can talk here about copy protection days and nights but like Frant said in some post before, the problem is not in the protection, the problem is on the scene. It's cripled, it's damaged, vanished etc. Dunno, maybe they don't want to mess around with this sh*t anymore!? or lack of talented coders in the scene? or afraid of getting busted and jailed etc..etc. If you think I'm talking BS, look who's left on the scene. Sad


What are you talking about? Groups come and go all the time.

You seem like yet another person who doesn't really understand the scene very well...

I mean, it's not like the scene is a one collective group, with broad, discernible, tangible motivations and moods (as you seem to think they are, with statements like "maybe they don't want to mess around with this sh*t anymore"). It's thousands of different people, and hundreds of different small groups. You can't comment on the "scene" as a whole, really.


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NForce2007
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 18:53    Post subject:
_ULTiMA_ wrote:
M4trix wrote:
Hi,

well, we can talk here about copy protection days and nights but like Frant said in some post before, the problem is not in the protection, the problem is on the scene. It's cripled, it's damaged, vanished etc. Dunno, maybe they don't want to mess around with this sh*t anymore!? or lack of talented coders in the scene? or afraid of getting busted and jailed etc..etc. If you think I'm talking BS, look who's left on the scene. Sad

The Scene is not dead, groups are.

Some leave for a variety of reasons, some get married and have more to worry about, some get another job, like archeology, fishing.

The part were some leave for a variety of reasons can include travel, health problems, or even death, people know about this things... right?

Every living thing is like dust, it appears and disappears, either by something that "cleans" it or by itself with time.

Anyway, "what's done it's done". There's 3 ways to do this, wait, crack yourself, or kill yourself. All of them will solve your problem(s) quickly.


or buy the game. Smile

true what you said in your post,everything that appears will disappear in time & will do so faster if its illegal or wrong to start with. Wink


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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 20:12    Post subject:
So you usually post here under alcohol influence ? Cause that would explain the chuckling and other things Laughing Laughing Smile
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 20:14    Post subject:
Naw, I'm not much of a drinker anyway, just having a drink with my girl while we watch movies.
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_ULTiMA_




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 20:16    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
_ULTiMA_ wrote:
There's 3 ways to do this, wait, crack yourself, or kill yourself. All of them will solve your problem(s) quickly.

nr4 buy a Xbox360 and burn it Laughing

Buy means another problem, spending money. You can't crack money, you can't crack time, but you can crack the ground, err, make a hole, so the third option applies.
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Mikenski




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 22:34    Post subject:
I like how people have read so many arguments against DRM that even their verbiage is streamlined to express their own discontent. I mean who the hell knows anything about Draco in Athens, other than the adjective "draconian" that some tool used to describe DRM a while back? Spread like wildfire, that's for fuckin' sure.

Yeah yeah, the argument can be made for almost any word that nobody knows the etymology for. Whatever.
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 22:58    Post subject:
There is a mini image floating.Don't know if it is fake or not.Now installing.

Fake i guess.
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darthmalak




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 23:12    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
NVM, wrong thread.


alwayas with usefull coments..

A few pages back, i saw a guy asking for darkcoder, im asking the same thing where is this guy?

Pulled in a corner with a tshirt "i was darkcoder" ?

Meh... i think the same of some guys here, the scene it getting pay to "push back" the crack


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Newty182




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 23:19    Post subject:
darkcoder could ONLY crack games that used SecuROM.. and even that was only the activation part (paul.dll file) if the game had a disk check he was screwed. So what makes people think he is going to be able to crack this, which is a totally different type of protection.

EDIT: hrmm, someone copied this and posted it on rlslog, and they used my username. I don't mind, was just a bit strange to see it lol


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MelVic




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 23:23    Post subject:
I'll NEVER buy anything with DRM i'll simply pirate it, i dony care if it takes 2 or 3 months cos its free, you imagine buyimg a new car with DRM you get to drive it everywhere but you only get to fill the tank 3 times
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darthmalak




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 23:32    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
darkcoder could ONLY crack games that used SecuROM.. and even that was only the activation part (paul.dll file) if the game had a disk check he was screwed. So what makes people think he is going to be able to crack this, which is a totally different type of protection.


now u mention it
i think u are right.


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JackQ
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 23:36    Post subject:
there is a whole forums to discuss about the protection
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=28


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Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Apr 2009 23:37    Post subject:
What else would you like us to discuss here in this thread in the mean time, when even legit buyers have problems activation this?
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_ULTiMA_




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 00:15    Post subject:
Everytime the DarkAthena.exe is opened (this by renaming the two TagesClient files in the same folder as DarkAthena.exe), makes DarkAthena.exe create a file "~CF****.tmp" in the Temp dir ( Start - Run - %TMP% ), clicking the Retry button, creates another "~CF****.tmp" file in the same place. All these files say the same:

Quote:
[CONFIG]
MODE=5
FPSUM=***************************
COMPANY=Starbreeze Studios
PRODUCT=The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
PRODUCTID=1698


This, means nothing (really), it's just for "learning purposes only". Anyway the problem is in the DarkAthena.exe file, and the nvm.dll.

When opened, DarkAthena.exe tries to read the TagesClient.exe and the TagesClient.dat, if any of this two is renamed, the serial/activation is useless, as some people already know. However, it reads the nvm.dll file (protection dll), and renaming it makes the executable not-so executable, replacing the nvm.dll file with another from a game with the same protection, and with another nvm.dll doesn't work either because those files are programmed to work only with a dedicated executable, in this case, DarkAthena.exe

Some ways of making this work is, waiting for a crack, a PROPER image, or having hope and wait till 24th April, until the euro version is released, and without this protections.

A PROPER image can do it, the problem is that not all Game Copy solutions can copy games with TAGES properly. Alcohol can copy TAGES, and Daemon Tools maybe can do it too.

Buying the game won't help, unless you want to have a 3-time install limit.
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Spiderman
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:02    Post subject:
MelVic wrote:
I'll NEVER buy anything with DRM i'll simply pirate it, i dony care if it takes 2 or 3 months cos its free, you imagine buyimg a new car with DRM you get to drive it everywhere but you only get to fill the tank 3 times

new cars allready have a DRM on them its the 10k km limit after that you are forced to drive to a firm service for DRM Engine renewal
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Newty182




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:07    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
MelVic wrote:
I'll NEVER buy anything with DRM i'll simply pirate it, i dony care if it takes 2 or 3 months cos its free, you imagine buyimg a new car with DRM you get to drive it everywhere but you only get to fill the tank 3 times

new cars allready have a DRM on them its the 10k km limit after that you are forced to drive to a firm service for DRM Engine renewal


Or do it yourself.


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darthmalak




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:08    Post subject:
_ULTiMA_ wrote:
Everytime the DarkAthena.exe is opened (this by renaming the two TagesClient files in the same folder as DarkAthena.exe), makes DarkAthena.exe create a file "~CF****.tmp" in the Temp dir ( Start - Run - %TMP% ), clicking the Retry button, creates another "~CF****.tmp" file in the same place. All these files say the same:

Quote:
[CONFIG]
MODE=5
FPSUM=***************************
COMPANY=Starbreeze Studios
PRODUCT=The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
PRODUCTID=1698


This, means nothing (really), it's just for "learning purposes only". Anyway the problem is in the DarkAthena.exe file, and the nvm.dll.

When opened, DarkAthena.exe tries to read the TagesClient.exe and the TagesClient.dat, if any of this two is renamed, the serial/activation is useless, as some people already know. However, it reads the nvm.dll file (protection dll), and renaming it makes the executable not-so executable, replacing the nvm.dll file with another from a game with the same protection, and with another nvm.dll doesn't work either because those files are programmed to work only with a dedicated executable, in this case, DarkAthena.exe

Some ways of making this work is, waiting for a crack, a PROPER image, or having hope and wait till 24th April, until the euro version is released, and without this protections.

A PROPER image can do it, the problem is that not all Game Copy solutions can copy games with TAGES properly. Alcohol can copy TAGES, and Daemon Tools maybe can do it too.

Buying the game won't help, unless you want to have a 3-time install limit.


this information is usefull.

why the euro version should be rlsed without protection?


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Newty182




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:10    Post subject:
I think its going to have the same protection.. in fact i would bet on it.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:13    Post subject:
If Atari are publishing the EU version too, then yeah... same protection definitely. Usually the protection methods only change if the publisher changes, or in certain high-piracy regions like in the case of Russia and other Middle-Eastern (and even Asian) markets.
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