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Don't bet!I think european version comes with securom+activation.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:24 Post subject: |
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I could regret asking.. but why?
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:32 Post subject: |
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| darthmalak wrote: |
why the euro version should be rlsed without protection? |
Probably not, unless Atari forgets to protect it.
| Newty182 wrote: | | I could regret asking.. but why? |
Ask developers, they know better than us.
But usually Russian releases use Starforce instead of Securom or any other protection, maybe anything related to costs of licenses, etc. No idea.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:32 Post subject: |
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A reliable source told me 25 days ago that north american version would have tages and european securom and both online activations.He was right for the first part.BUT i found that publishing is unfortunately the same for european version so i am not 100% sure.
@ultima There are indeed differencies in costs but also specific policies and restrictions.
Reloaded spent their time to COH..Chances for a release before 24th are minimal now.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:45 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | If Atari are publishing the EU version too, then yeah... same protection definitely. Usually the protection methods only change if the publisher changes, or in certain high-piracy regions like in the case of Russia and other Middle-Eastern (and even Asian) markets. |
Probably will use the same protection, like STALKER Clear Sky had in both territories.
They won't release it on Steam because there's no need for cracks on Steam, and even knowing this, they sell more games than some shops, both Online and "Offline" shops. 
| fearwhatnow wrote: | A reliable source told me 25 days ago that north american version would have tages and european securom and both online activations.He was right for the first part.BUT i found that publishing is unfortunately the same for european version so i am not 100% sure.
@ultima There are indeed differencies in costs but also specific policies and restrictions. |
Policies my ass. Politics/Policies/whatever, no matter on what category are they applied to, they are all based on the same shit, lies and money.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 01:54 Post subject: |
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| _ULTiMA_ wrote: |
Probably will use the same protection, like STALKER Clear Sky had in both territories.
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Same protection my ass. Clear Sky had Tages+SolidShield in EFIGS territories, including America, and StarForce in Russia >_>
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 02:02 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | _ULTiMA_ wrote: |
Probably will use the same protection, like STALKER Clear Sky had in both territories.
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Same protection my ass. Clear Sky had Tages+SolidShield in EFIGS territories, including America, and StarForce in Russia >_> |
I was talking about US/Euro versions, if you had read what i said before you wouldn't be posting crap.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 02:06 Post subject: |
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And if you'd read my previous post instead of tripping over your fingers in an, entirely worthless, attempt to prove yourself .. you'd see I made a VERY clear distinction about Russia and other territories.
Serious fail there, mate.
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ArtursL
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 02:51 Post subject: |
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Sort of news from russian forum:
Basically one guy was messing with the game files, ran the executable and blam, it started.
He exitd it, tried it again - same old online activation thing.
Ofcourse, he just might be bullshi**ing the community.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 03:13 Post subject: |
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strange a new rls from scene is out
so i hope to see something new soon
| artursl wrote: | sort of news from russian forum:
Basically one guy was messing with the game files, ran the executable and blam, it started.
He exitd it, tried it again - same old online activation thing. |
for the good of us i hope u are wrong 
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 04:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 06:19 Post subject: |
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TAGS + Soildshield is one of the more time consuming protections to break, not because its complicated or technically challenging, but because the protections wraps executable in a security layer and then injects thousands of simple checks into the game code. The checks simply test for the presence of the wrapper and/or the modification of some game components. Cleansing these checks takes crazy amounts of time. Thus, a rls might take some time.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 06:45 Post subject: |
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| kunit1 wrote: | | TAGS + Soildshield is one of the more time consuming protections to break, not because its complicated or technically challenging, but because the protections wraps executable in a security layer and then injects thousands of simple checks into the game code. The checks simply test for the presence of the wrapper and/or the modification of some game components. Cleansing these checks takes crazy amounts of time. Thus, a rls might take some time. |
The best idea to combat this is to use a loader, which fools the protection everything is fine and dandy. |
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 06:49 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | kunit1 wrote: | | TAGS + Soildshield is one of the more time consuming protections to break, not because its complicated or technically challenging, but because the protections wraps executable in a security layer and then injects thousands of simple checks into the game code. The checks simply test for the presence of the wrapper and/or the modification of some game components. Cleansing these checks takes crazy amounts of time. Thus, a rls might take some time. |
The best idea to combat this is to use a loader, which fools the protection everything is fine and dandy. |
But it would make the game run slower.
1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 08:54 Post subject: |
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That's true.A loader doesn't slow down perfomance or anything.Something like tetrisEmu is what we need.Maybe pacmanEmu or pangEmu..Seriously now game can become slower only if triggers are activated.Even if a crack is out for Dark Athena it needs extensive test as tages will 'spread' all over the game code any kind of alteration it detects in the core exe or dll.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 09:24 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | You know, this sudden outcry from so many makes me inspired and happy on one hand, and angry at how hypocritical people are on the other. While the lack of revocation tool is indeed bad, and practically locks your game, I don't see how games with revocation tools are better. And if your hard drive crashes? And you get a virus that wipes everything off the drive? Irreversible shit happens, and it is not always possible to revoke this shit. So while seeing such uprise is great and inspiring, it is a bit too little, too late if you ask me. |
Revocation tools are nowhere being the solution but they at least give the CHANCE to retain an activation. Atari's BS does not.
Not to mention that most companies at least allow you to beg for more activations from support after you use the original 3-5 up. I heard that with atari, you are forced to buy a new copy.
I have no idea why atari is so keen on digging it's own grave, but if they want to go out of business, well, the better it is for the gaming world.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 10:09 Post subject: |
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what's strange is that until now other releases had that certain someone who was telling us that a friend of a friend is cracking the thing and that it takes a while because but that he was close.
Now nobody knows anything. That's pretty bad ain't it?!?
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 10:15 Post subject: |
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reloaded cracked coh now , get on fucking riddick now ffs
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 10:16 Post subject: |
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| hseraphim wrote: | | reloaded cracked coh now , get on fucking riddick now ffs |
COH is different Protection...
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 10:40 Post subject: |
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i ve got 4 days break from work, and no crack yet..
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 11:06 Post subject: |
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this is protections that will be for future games!?!?
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Apr 2009 11:44 Post subject: |
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Patience my children, patience.
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