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| Quote: | 0.Disable your dvd-drive, emulate game-disc with the last Alcohol, close your internet conection.
1.Run game.
2.Enter cdkey XXXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
3.Click "Next"
4.Choose 1-st item "I don't have an internet connection on this PC".
5.Click "Next".
6.Click "Close".
7.Run game.
8.Choose 2-nd item "I got activation code…"
9.Click "Next".
10. Enter activation code:
asdasdasd
11.Click "Next".
12.Click "Complete"
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just checked not working, hm gona try 123456789101112131415qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxxcvbnm,.;[p;l\ "shrug"
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Mcs[NBK]
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 18:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 18:34 Post subject: |
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i actually cracked half life 1 myself back then when i was out in the boonies without internet, bored to hell and my cd drive broke down. little bit of assembler knowledge+w32dasm+hiew, done. good old days, just change a jump and play. fear my h4xx0r powahz! 
but something just came to my mind regarding the riddick protection - maybe it's redundant, but anyway: so we've got the activation file from the guy who actually managed to activate the game, which of course is useless cause one would have to have a 100% identical pc.
BUT: why not tackle the protection not by disabling it the usual, old-fashioned way, but by emulating the machine the game was activated on? basically, the whole protection is just some kind of hash comparison, so it should be doable to cut in between somewhere. such a workaround would most probably be nuked by scene rules and maybe that's why the groups don't bother - but who cares, at least it would be playable and that counts.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 18:36 Post subject: |
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| Mcs[NBK] wrote: | Go & buy it
/close plz |
I honestly would if I could!. European release isn't til the 24th. And what's more galling is that I got a mail from Atari promoting this damn game - I want to give them my money and can't. Stupid Atari.
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 18:50 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 18:55 Post subject: |
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| Pixieking wrote: | | Mcs[NBK] wrote: | Go & buy it
/close plz |
I honestly would if I could!. European release isn't til the 24th. And what's more galling is that I got a mail from Atari promoting this damn game - I want to give them my money and can't. Stupid Atari. |
Can't you buy it from Atari directly here?
http://www.atari.com/us/games/chronicles_riddick_assault_dark_athena/dvd_rom?dd=1
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 18:57 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | Indeed. That's another major dimwit decision by the moron publishers: different dates for different territories. |
That has to do with perfectly legitimate factors, most of the time. European distribution channels are far more complex than American ones. In the US, you're only dealing with one country. In Europe, you have dozens of countries, all with different censorship laws, languages, retail channels, et cetera.
Publishers don't release later in Europe out of spite, ignorance, or stupidity; game publishing in Europe is simply a more complex situation. It's a shame that most people are too ignorant to understand this, and instead, use it as yet another reason to hate publishers, who are simply trying to run their businesses.
It's less that they're "delaying" European releases; it's more that they're not delaying American releases, which are usually ready before European versions, for the reasons I have already explained.
| Quote: | | First smack in the face: DRM... Three times and then you can throw the game away.. |
How many goddamn times do I have to say it: It's three machines, infinite installs on each, and then you call them for additional machine activations.
Distorting the facts makes people look stupid.
| Quote: | Seriously, publishers seem to be dumber than the average joe.  |
Like I said, your ignorance is making you choose the easy explanation: "publishers are stupid," when you really don't understand all the facts at all.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 18:58 Post subject: |
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| bushwacka wrote: | i actually cracked half life 1 myself back then when i was out in the boonies without internet, bored to hell and my cd drive broke down. little bit of assembler knowledge+w32dasm+hiew, done. good old days, just change a jump and play. fear my h4xx0r powahz!
but something just came to my mind regarding the riddick protection - maybe it's redundant, but anyway: so we've got the activation file from the guy who actually managed to activate the game, which of course is useless cause one would have to have a 100% identical pc.
BUT: why not tackle the protection not by disabling it the usual, old-fashioned way, but by emulating the machine the game was activated on? basically, the whole protection is just some kind of hash comparison, so it should be doable to cut in between somewhere. such a workaround would most probably be nuked by scene rules and maybe that's why the groups don't bother - but who cares, at least it would be playable and that counts. |
Yeah, it probably would be nuked but i don't think most ppl would care tbh. Also, would it be that hard to emulate the exact data taken from the disk check? Plus GTA4 uses a loader does it not?
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D34Dite
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:01 Post subject: |
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that is for US, hence the /us/ bit in the URL, its not released here in the UK so atari would hardly let you buy it online from the UK site
when there is no more room in hell, the D34D will walk the earth
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:05 Post subject: |
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When's the last time a PC game was released internationally on the same day? Serious question.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:07 Post subject: |
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| D34Dite wrote: |
that is for US, hence the /us/ bit in the URL, its not released here in the UK so atari would hardly let you buy it online from the UK site |
I see no limitation mentioned there that you can't it buy from anywhere, neither in Terms of service. Payment options also lists all countries as valid.
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:07 Post subject: |
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| Cedge wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | Indeed. That's another major dimwit decision by the moron publishers: different dates for different territories. |
That has to do with perfectly legitimate factors, most of the time. European distribution channels are far more complex than American ones. In the US, you're only dealing with one country. In Europe, you have dozens of countries, all with different censorship laws, languages, retail channels, et cetera.
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There's nothing legitimate about it. Other publishers manage simultaneous releases just fine. If it takes an extra week or two to handle distribution in Europe, set the date two weeks later everywhere from the start. It's called planning.
| Quote: | | It's a shame that most people are too ignorant to understand this, and instead, use it as yet another reason to hate publishers, who are simply trying to run their businesses. |
And I said that it's stupid to not sync releases for the reasons I stated in my post above. If you call it ignorance I suppose you're either working for a publisher or you're just in the mood to throw some insults around.
| Quote: | | Quote: | | First smack in the face: DRM... Three times and then you can throw the game away.. |
How many goddamn times do I have to say it: It's three machines, infinite installs on each, and then you call them for additional machine activations. |
You can say it as many times as you wish, this is the first time I've read it, and you didn't provide a link to that particular "fact".
| Quote: | | Distorting the facts makes people look stupid. |
Seriously, are you sure you're not working for Atari or another publisher? 
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Seriously, publishers seem to be dumber than the average joe. |
Like I said, your ignorance is making you choose the easy explanation: "publishers are stupid," when you really don't understand all the facts at all. |
What "facts"? A numbnut throwing insults around him isn't "facts". And what's with the overuse of the word "ignorant" (and it's forms)? Is it "Hey, I'll be an ass today and call everyone "ignorant"-day or something? Get over yourself. 
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:07 Post subject: |
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| D34Dite wrote: |
that is for US, hence the /us/ bit in the URL, its not released here in the UK so atari would hardly let you buy it online from the UK site |
Maybe you can actually buy it and get a key. My order went through after selecting money order. I put my UK details in there.. the only problem could be if you didnt receive a key untill the 24th..?
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:11 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:18 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | There's nothing legitimate about it. Other publishers manage simultaneous releases just fine. |
Like who? Very few games release simultaneously worldwide, and I can't think of any publishers offhand, who this is a strict policy for.
| Quote: | | If it takes an extra week or two to handle distribution in Europe, set the date two weeks later everywhere from the start. It's called planning. |
Like I said before: Why should Americans have to wait, if the English-only build can be ready sooner (which they are, most of the time)?
| Quote: | | And I said that it's stupid to not sync releases for the reasons I stated in my post above. If you call it ignorance I suppose you're either working for a publisher or you're just in the mood to throw some insults around. |
Read the above, please.
| Quote: | | You can say it as many times as you wish, this is the first time I've read it, and you didn't provide a link to that particular "fact". |
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=672558
If you needed proof, all you had to do was ask earlier.
| Quote: | | Seriously, are you sure you're not working for Atari or another publisher? |
I'm afraid not.
| Quote: | | What "facts"? A numbnut throwing insults around him isn't "facts". And what's with the overuse of the word "ignorant" (and it's forms)? Is it "Hey, I'll be an ass today and call everyone "ignorant"-day or something? Get over yourself. |
Read the above. I have "thrown around" nothing but facts. Get over yourself.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 19:28 Post subject: |
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| Cedge wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | There's nothing legitimate about it. Other publishers manage simultaneous releases just fine. |
Like who? Very few games release simultaneously worldwide, and I can't think of any publishers offhand, who this is a strict policy for.
| Quote: | | If it takes an extra week or two to handle distribution in Europe, set the date two weeks later everywhere from the start. It's called planning. |
Like I said before: Why should Americans have to wait, if the English-only build can be ready sooner (which they are, most of the time)?
| Quote: | | And I said that it's stupid to not sync releases for the reasons I stated in my post above. If you call it ignorance I suppose you're either working for a publisher or you're just in the mood to throw some insults around. |
Read the above, please.
| Quote: | | You can say it as many times as you wish, this is the first time I've read it, and you didn't provide a link to that particular "fact". |
http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=672558
If you needed proof, all you had to do was ask earlier.
| Quote: | | Seriously, are you sure you're not working for Atari or another publisher? |
I'm afraid not.
| Quote: | | What "facts"? A numbnut throwing insults around him isn't "facts". And what's with the overuse of the word "ignorant" (and it's forms)? Is it "Hey, I'll be an ass today and call everyone "ignorant"-day or something? Get over yourself. |
Read the above. I have "thrown around" nothing but facts. Get over yourself. |
I'm not gonna sift through all the shit in that but.
1. Relic, Blizzard, Valve
2. Because early releases in some parts of the world promote piracy in others
3. Stop being a pretentious dick and wait in line for the game you're NOT PAYING FOR like the rest of us.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 20:04 Post subject: |
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A simultaneous release may not prevent a significant amount of piracy*, but it may prevent endless pages of bickering when a US-only release stands uncracked -- most likely until or around the 24th (perhaps the UK release will have slightly different form of copy protection?). It probably wouldn't hurt to have delayed the US release, especially if regulations for shelf-space are more lax. I'll consider this an elaborate joke by Atari with members of whom, I'm sure, are laughing while perusing these forums. Hehehe...
* As if that could even be honestly measured :\
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D34Dite
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 20:18 Post subject: |
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have given up on a warez rls of this an went back to play the old riddick game
when there is no more room in hell, the D34D will walk the earth
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 21:48 Post subject: |
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| Cedge wrote: | | Naish wrote: | | 1. Relic, Blizzard, Valve |
So a few publishers pull it off (and make no mistake: they could certainly release earlier, if their games were all English-only), so all publishers have to meet the same requirement?
Again, it betrays a dysfunctional knowledge of the industry, to think that simultaneous worldwide release is always possible.
| Quote: | | 2. Because early releases in some parts of the world promote piracy in others |
Please. As if simultaneous release would prevent and significant amount piracy. Then they'd just be pirating it earlier, in their native language.
| Quote: | | 3. Stop being a pretentious dick and wait in line for the game you're NOT PAYING FOR like the rest of us. |
Not downloading this, actually. Got my monthly bandwidth tied up with other things this month. |
Well, that's nice that your arguing about a release you're not downloading anyway.
And yes, if a game isn't released in, let's say Australia, all kinds of people would pirate it. I can't get it here so I'll take that version instead. Games a game, don't care if it's got special characters all over the place (obviously this doesn't apply to text rpgs or any of that stuff).
A perfect example is the Aion beta. Chinese open beta is out. Lots of American players have downloaded it (as well as a leaked/stolen English data file) and started playing on Chinese servers. Why? Because they can't play it anywhere else. Even without the english data file, those same players downloaded it and played it.
Piracy is a convenience, not a statement. Unless you're looking at a 14 year old "non"conformist with some retarded sense of pride, then they'll think it's a statement, and they're free to, because I'm sure they'll never amount to anything worth paying attention to with that attitude.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 22:37 Post subject: |
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You misunderstood me. The point is, that it's not like Europeans only pirate games because they are released earlier elsewhere. They'd be pirating them one way or another, which is why the claim "early releases in some parts of the world promote piracy in others" is kind of dumb.
Correcting people since 2007 even if they're not wrong.
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 22:54 Post subject: |
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| Cedge wrote: | | You misunderstood me. The point is, that it's not like Europeans only pirate games because they are released earlier elsewhere. They'd be pirating them one way or another, which is why the claim "early releases in some parts of the world promote piracy in others" is kind of dumb. |
If you could only argue in a rational and mature manner instead of instantly going for the throat with empty insults we'd spare the thread a virtual sparring match. I usually hit the lows when I'm extremely bored or in a bad mood, just to see if something interesting happens I can use slightly condescending language if someone challenges me. I usually don't attack someone personally though.
In this case you came in on your high horses, unasked and without having anything to do with my post, mixing your opinions with repeated attempts at insulting my intelligence. Not quite the right way if you want to discuss the matter or refute whatever it is that you disagree with.
And your points are one-sided, purely from the perspective of the publisher. I can see their reasons, I can also see where those reasons fail for various reasons, from a consumers perspective. And I seriously doubt nforce is the hangout for publishers, and thus the publishers perspective is only interesting as far as explaining some of their actions is concerned.
From "our" (as in consumers) perspective the best thing would be synchronized releases. I do believe it is enough to push a certain (obviously not possible to come up with even a distant guesstimate) amount of people to pirate the game instead of buying it. I may be wrong, but in argumentation it's on you to counter my argument with an argument of your own (saying "nah, that's dysfunctional knowledge and ignorance" doesn't count as a counter argument).
I wonder how you became an expert on how publishers work, plan and execute releases, since you are obviously much more knowledgeable than the rest of us in these matter. 
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 23:24 Post subject: |
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@Frant:
Again, if you can't understand why simultaneous worldwide release is not always possible, despite me giving clear examples of why it often isn't, then fine, so be it. I don't have to make a counter-point, because you never made on to those points.
Correcting people since 2007 even if they're not wrong.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 23:26 Post subject: |
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rofl people paying $50 for that game is pure retirement. If you never played first game then I can understand this being of some value but for those of us that played first game long time ago this new game is piece of garbage compared to old one, and why would i wanna play the old remake again? not for $50 thats for certain rofl
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