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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 16:00 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | Vista does not eat RAM, it caches it. After a couple of days you'll notice a big performance increase in app launchig and whatnot due to caching. XP wastes RAM by leaving half of it free, you don't buy 4gigs to see 2gigs of it just sitting there. "x gigs of RAM free" is not a sign of good programming, it just shows how inefficient XP is with RAM management.
As for games, the cache is usually immediately freed when you launch anything remotely memory intensive. |
Bingo.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 16:03 Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the advice guys.
Any particular version/iso of Vista32 that you recommend? I'll also check the Tweaking Companion for Vista from Tweakguides.com, the one for XP had some pretty useful stuff.
For now I'll head back to Xenogears then. 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 16:05 Post subject: |
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And be mindful that most people compare XP 32bit to Vista 64bit, that's an unfair comparison. A 64bit operating system will always use more RAM, that's inevitable.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 16:31 Post subject: |
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I'm talking about personal experience with many friends' PCs with 2gb. They all went back to XP because of sluggish overall OS performance (I don't mean game framerates)
Also, prefetching/precaching isn't a panacea, I prefer XP's simpler and more reliable memory management. Less of these random "stopped working" exceptions and everything loads instantly.
It odesn't matter really, just when Vista is getting stable, you'll all flock to Win7 right ?
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 16:35 Post subject: |
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Then they all had horrifically sucky PCs, because the general consensus from people that actually USE Vista .. is somewhat different than the horrid picture you're painting.
Vista on my own, or my flatmate's or my best mate's or my brother's or my mum's .. or indeed ANY PC I've seen and used Vista on, has always run gloriously. No sluggishness that you speak of.
*shrugs* You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion - just don't be surprised when a good number of people on here paint a picture that's entirely opposite to yours 
Oh and I've been using Vista for over 18 months (well over, actually, since the first RCs) - and now I'm running Win7. I don't claim Vista is perfect, but I'm also not blinkered enough like some anti-Vista fanboys to claim that it's evil. Win7 is an evolution of Vista, taking everything that made Vista so good -- and making it BETTER. Go compare some benchmarks between a BETA of Win7 and an SP3-equipped version of your beloved XP. Then come back and call us liars ^_^
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 16:39 Post subject: |
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Hey, I thought Vista failed to conquer the market. And it's quickly replaced by the superior Win7, so soon it will be a distant memory. Haven't done any research.
Also, why turn it into a XP vs Vista discussion ? I already know which is better and so does everyone.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 16:41 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | why turn it into a XP vs Vista discussion ? I already know which is better and so does everyone. |
That's why it did. You made a statement that was erroneous .. and then backed it up with "I already know which is better and so does everyone"
Who are these "everyone" you speak of? How do you KNOW something else is better? It may be better for "you" - which is all well and good, nobody is disputing that. We simply dispute the "opinions put forth as fact" that you claim about Vista. You are, in effect, calling US - the users of said OS - liars and insinuating that your experiences, or lack thereof, are factual proof of why Vista is inferior.
Anyway, back to the point at hand; If you want the best performance out of PCSX2; remove your head from the sand and go to Vista or Win7 - because it's a proven FACT that GSDX in DX10 mode is superior to DX9 mode. You cannot get DX10 under WinXP, regardless of how many hacks you install.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 16:48 Post subject: |
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I wasn't arguing mate. I was offering a differing opinion-stroke-viewpoint. From my own WORKING experience (running said OS for a considerable period of time) I noticed none of the issues you described - and I was running 2GB of RAM.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 21:37 Post subject: |
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| Clcancellation wrote: | 360 Emulator will be sweet,
the 360 is now the best console in this Generation...
maybe even second to the PS2,
and Cliff.B will get Owned with a "PC Release" of GOEW2  |
I personally get more use out of gamecube than I ever did/do my 360, the games are just getting too boring and simplified with each new release, and half of them have a PC version with superior performance/gfx, and if it's a port I got my 360 pad. Granted I mainly bought it for console exclusive games, I was addicted to fight night round 3 for the longest time.
I think the cube could have been hailed quite nicely if Nintendo knew how to cut the kiddie game bullshit |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Apr 2009 22:47 Post subject: |
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Personally, next to the PS1/2 and SNES .. I still rate my DC as favourite. The GC had some spectacular games, no doubt about that, but the controller layout really put me off. The DC, on the other hand, was just absolutely amazing and the d-pad - while jagged and could give you wicked calluses after a while - was so amazingly responsive for 2D/3D fighters!
Hell, I just love the Dreamcast. Full stop.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009 10:54 Post subject: |
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So is it possible to hook up a DS3 controller to PCSX2 yet?
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009 11:09 Post subject: |
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| Clcancellation wrote: | 360 Emulator will be sweet,
the 360 is now the best console in this Generation...
maybe even second to the PS2,
and Cliff.B will get Owned with a "PC Release" of GOEW2 |
I don't agree. 360 had tons of exclusives and even JRPGs for the first 2 years, and look at it now. Almost 0 exclusives and no more JRPGs coming that I know of. Now 360 is a bunch of multiplatform games. PS2 had constant stream of exclusives and JRPGs throughout its life cycle.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009 11:14 Post subject: |
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I don't agree. 360 had tons of exclusives and even JRPGs for the first 2 years, and look at it now. Almost 0 exclusives and no more JRPGs coming that I know of. Now 360 is a bunch of multiplatform games. PS2 had constant stream of exclusives and JRPGs throughout it's life cycle. |
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it's because exclusives {for the most of the good games} is dying.
but consoles exclusives{without PC version} not,so just PS3 or 360
Emulator will bring most of this gen good consoles games.
360 probably will be easier to to emulate then the PS3.
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Frant
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009 11:15 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | | Hey, I thought Vista failed to conquer the market. And it's quickly replaced by the superior Win7, so soon it will be a distant memory. Haven't done any research. |
Then you obviously based your opinions on conjecture and attitude. XP is the best selling Microsoft OS to date, that is a fact. It has sold ridiculously well in its lifetime. Vista has been selling a lot, esp. when SP1 arrived. It never reached the levels XP did, but in what way is that a "failure"?
As for "and it's quickly replaced by the superior Win7", Microsoft said even during the last phase of Vista development that they would not wait 5 years to release a new version. Vista was RTM'ed November 8 2006 and available in stores January 2007. That's over 2 years. Windows 7 will RTM late summer/autumn and be available in stores close to 3 years after Vista was released, which is pretty much what they said they'd do when they finished Vista.
There's no rush to replace a commercial flop since there was no commercial flop to begin with. And there's no rush because they're following the plans that were laid out even as they boxed Vista for store release. Before SP1 was released MS had shipped 140 million licenses for Vista (this obviously includes pre-installed versions on OEM computers), after that it was a constant increase.
Seriously, I'm tired of taking a defensive position for Vista simply because there's FUD being thrown around. Vista isn't the ultimate OS or even the best OS, but some of the nonsense floating around about it is just silly. It's the same with the anti-Vista nonsense floating around about it being a failure, eating RAM, being slow in gaming (that was basically sorted around SP1 as drivers matured) and so on. If someone want to criticise Vista, go ahead, but please be informed about the subject. It's so ugly when someone throws around the same old nonsense that have no anchor in reality. That said, I haven't used Vista since fall 2008. Win7 all the way baby 
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009 13:11 Post subject: |
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Ok, so I've been testing Xenosaga Ep1 ... and I gotta say; I'm very impressed. 100% speed almost 100% of the time. No dips during combat or world exploration, but I had a few dips during ONE cutscene - where it dipped to 55fps. There's a niggly little graphic issue around text, but I'm going to tweak and get rid of that.
Massive performance boost in the latest SVN build (well, latest that I'm using. svn923) compared to vanilla 0.9.6.
Overall? Absolutely playable in every way. I'm confident that a slightly faster CPU would result in zero slowdown at all, let alone the minor - and rare - slowdowns that occurred for me in that cutscene. I'm going to test my theory today by jumping to 3.6Ghz.
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Graphic corruption around text vanishes when run in NATIVE resolution, but only out of battle. In battle the minor corruption is still there. It's not gamebreaking, but it IS annoying. Game looks considerably uglier though, heh. The last screenshot is from NATIVE mode, since I was testing my theory on getting rid of the text corruption. I've since switched back to 1024x1024 internal.
Side-note; According to the main forum - speedhacks are useless for this game. At best they do nothing, at worst they break the game. The only hack recommended, and it IS recommended, is the INTC Sync hack.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Apr 2009 18:18 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Ok, so I've been testing Xenosaga Ep1 ... and I gotta say; I'm very impressed. 100% speed almost 100% of the time. No dips during combat or world exploration, but I had a few dips during ONE cutscene - where it dipped to 55fps. There's a niggly little graphic issue around text, but I'm going to tweak and get rid of that.
Massive performance boost in the latest SVN build (well, latest that I'm using. svn923) compared to vanilla 0.9.6.
Overall? Absolutely playable in every way. I'm confident that a slightly faster CPU would result in zero slowdown at all, let alone the minor - and rare - slowdowns that occurred for me in that cutscene. I'm going to test my theory today by jumping to 3.6Ghz.
=Quickest Edit in History=
Graphic corruption around text vanishes when run in NATIVE resolution, but only out of battle. In battle the minor corruption is still there. It's not gamebreaking, but it IS annoying. Game looks considerably uglier though, heh. The last screenshot is from NATIVE mode, since I was testing my theory on getting rid of the text corruption. I've since switched back to 1024x1024 internal.
Side-note; According to the main forum - speedhacks are useless for this game. At best they do nothing, at worst they break the game. The only hack recommended, and it IS recommended, is the INTC Sync hack. |
Thanks for trying it out. Seems like I'll install Vista this time then... I'm not wiling to take my chances with Windows 7 just yet.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Apr 2009 12:46 Post subject: |
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I'll do some testing between DX9 and DX10 modes. Will let you know if either has any noticeable boost OR drawback.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 23:51 Post subject: |
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Someone knows how resize the image in NO$GBA emulator? thankies.
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lhzr
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Apr 2009 23:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 00:04 Post subject: |
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Ditto. MyZoom RULES! There's also NDS2XGL.
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 00:16 Post subject: |
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Thanks. I just tried it. Was the first time that ran NO$GBA. Delightful. Now i can play properly the NDS roms, now just waiting for the Dark Spire ROM release, the game was launched today.
http://www.atlus.com/darkspire/
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lhzr
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while we're on about the ds here, lemme share a little gem that i've found a couple of days ago, via eg http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/retro-game-challenge-review
| Quote: | | Retro Game Challenge seeks to recreate that heady experience of being an 8-year-old hardcore videogame fan in the 1980s |
| Quote: | | the point of Retro Game Challenge isn't the compilation so much as the context and the commentary and an unapologetic celebration of gaming's formative days. In that sense it's a triumph, offering any gamer who grew up with videogames, whatever the era, a keen sense of that time. For many of us trying to recapture those childhood feelings of awe and wonder, Retro Game Challenge gets to the very heart of why we still play videogames. |
the game is awesome. it made me feel like a kid all over again, but not just because of the games that your ingame character plays (and, in turn, you do as well), but mostly thanks to the interaction with his friend. it brought back a lot of familiar feelings and i love it for that 
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 02:10 Post subject: |
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oh great i dont have SSE2 3 or 4
stupid crappy emulator and crappy computer
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 08:55 Post subject: |
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Wuh..what?? You don't have SSE2!? Good god man, just how old IS your PC? :-\
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 09:52 Post subject: |
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if it can run doom who carez right?
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Pey
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| Posted: Wed, 15th Apr 2009 11:24 Post subject: |
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Just for you to know, God of War and GOW II and FULLY PLAYABLE.
For GOW use this plugin: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=485RJ181
For GOW2, this pcsx2 rev: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?e3lzczzmmin and use gsdx 962
You´ll have to enable native res in gow2 though, but it´s fully playable
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