Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
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AKofC




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Apr 2009 21:29    Post subject:
How expensive? I mean, a decent 24 incher would be at like 200 dollars or so.

Though I'm not that picky when it comes to image quality, because for the most part, I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking for with image quality.

If I like what I see, that's it.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Apr 2009 21:41    Post subject:
Probably around 2600 to 3000 kroner (about £250-300) I bought my girl a 24" WS monitor for Christmas (she's a graphic/clothes/art designer and needed a bigger monitor to work on) and we got it in a "closing down" sale for 1550kr - but I've seen nothing anywhere near that cheap since. Meh.
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Apr 2009 22:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Probably around 2600 to 3000 kroner (about £250-300) I bought my girl a 24" WS monitor for Christmas (she's a graphic/clothes/art designer and needed a bigger monitor to work on) and we got it in a "closing down" sale for 1550kr - but I've seen nothing anywhere near that cheap since. Meh.
Indeed, big price difference from 22" to 24" Seen 22" NEC for 1100 at both netshop and komplett tho.
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asserouge




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Apr 2009 23:07    Post subject:
Pal Xbox version it's already out...hope that "pc-sceners" will make a present as well Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 00:06    Post subject:
Maybe tomorrow it will be a Cracked Pc version i suppose...
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Cedge




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 00:24    Post subject:
Gandalf85 wrote:
Maybe tomorrow it will be a Cracked Pc version i suppose...


Yes maybe it's possible that there is a chance that there might be a certain probability that the odds will result in perhaps there being a crack PC crack windows tomorrow, I suppose I guess I dunno maybe.


Jesus, this thread sounds like the comments in a rlslog post, sometimes...
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 00:29    Post subject:
Wow , got finaly the game !
Fucking nice ! run smooth @ max in game !

let's play more
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 01:35    Post subject:
Cedge wrote:
Yes maybe it's possible that there is a chance that there might be a certain probability that the odds will result in perhaps there being a crack PC crack windows tomorrow, I suppose I guess I dunno maybe.
Jesus, this thread sounds like the comments in a rlslog post, sometimes...


Would be great if he was right.

But yea, way too many people are impatient and are writing fictional nonsenses to feed their brains with hope. Wouldn't be surprised if the authors of these comments at rlslog and similar believed in their own theories.


Oh and did you hear the one that Atari paid release groups $50k to not crack this game until 24th or something? Hilarious! Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 02:37    Post subject:
tolanri wrote:
Cedge wrote:
Yes maybe it's possible that there is a chance that there might be a certain probability that the odds will result in perhaps there being a crack PC crack windows tomorrow, I suppose I guess I dunno maybe.
Jesus, this thread sounds like the comments in a rlslog post, sometimes...


Would be great if he was right.

But yea, way too many people are impatient and are writing fictional nonsenses to feed their brains with hope. Wouldn't be surprised if the authors of these comments at rlslog and similar believed in their own theories.


Oh and did you hear the one that Atari paid release groups $50k to not crack this game until 24th or something? Hilarious! Laughing

Nvm, I'm dumb lawl.
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wrathamon




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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 02:47    Post subject:
tolanri wrote:
Cedge wrote:
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Oh and did you hear the one that Atari paid release groups $50k to not crack this game until 24th or something? Hilarious! Laughing


ZOMG !!!!
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 03:49    Post subject:
For the guy on the previous page with the 9.2 drivers and 2x 4870x2 cards Crossfire do work somewhat in the 9.4 drivers albeit more work could be done, high levels of ambient occlusion do hit performance pretty hard, haven't tried renaming the EXE yet.
(10 fps with Catalyst AI disabled so no Crossfire but between 25 to 30 FPS with it enabled albeit not much of a difference between advanced and standard, AO is a bit glitchy though with the way shadows are played, haven't tried 9.5 beta display drivers as I'll wait for the official driver release but that should improve things a bit further.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 04:04    Post subject:
AO looks fraking terrible really, its that usual effect where its like ur wearing a plastic sheet over ur face with dirt marks on it that move or look to move independantly over the scene..
High AO lags the game, putting it down to medium solves that but it still looks very odd with that strange effect it gives.. Ive yet to see a game other than Hawx where it was implemented correctly with no noticable impacts..

I also see an odd thing where setting msaax8 or 2 or none makes no reall difference to appearance say on railings etc etc..Using 9.3 cats still.

Other than that looks to be a fun game, its pretty brutal so thats all good Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 07:30    Post subject:
I got my serial from OKS and it worked flawlessly.


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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 09:39    Post subject:
this stinks i want to buy it but its of course out of stock Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 10:20    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:

Yeah, EfBB also worked on GeForce 3 cards, so what? WS monitors are cheap and they are standard monitors today, not those ancient 4:3 monsters you can only find in a museum. Just buy one and enjoy.


I will never understand why people even bother to give these kind of replies. Confused
You know what? I don't have an ancient 4:3 monitor! I have a 5:4 monitor, a nice 19" Samsung LCD that I bought just three years ago for 300 Euro! It works fine and I'm happy with it. Neither people like you nor developers should dictate me what kind of monitor I shall use! There is no reason to not include a fullscreen option in a PC game for people like Sabin and me. We don't care to preserve the WS point of view.

sabin1981 wrote:

That's just my point though, I don't want the same field of view as everyone else. I want the option to have horizontal-minus if it means the image actually fills my screen instead of giving me FIVE INCHES of black areas. When I use my girlfriend's 24" WS monitor, then yay - I'd love an image that pans more along the horizontal plane, but for now - while she's working on her art design - I'm back to using my standard monitor and as such I'm losing a great deal of image to what? "Artistic design"? Is it really that difficult to include the option for full-screen viewing? Sad


100% agree!
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 10:33    Post subject:
If you look at all the games recently out there neither 4:3/5:4 nor 16:9/16:10 folks should be satisfied. If you use a widescreen monitor you often get stretched images, missing fov (this causes nausea for me especially in FPS's) or its not even supported. And fullscreen guys get the games with the stupid black borders. I still don't understand why its so hard for game designers to make both sides happy.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 10:38    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
I still don't understand why its so hard for game designers to make both sides happy.


Laziness and/or sloppiness. Take your pick.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 11:08    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Shocktrooper wrote:
I still don't understand why its so hard for game designers to make both sides happy.


Laziness and/or sloppiness. Take your pick.


You're both forgetting a little something called "creative vision."

It's like a movie director, framing a shot. Sometimes, the developers want the players to have a very specific view on the world of the game, and making aspect ratios identical across-the-board is the way to do that.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 11:11    Post subject:
I forget nothing. I just want the choice. It's *my* game that *I* paid for, I don't want to be indulging some developers' wet-dream just so it can appeal to his ego-stroke-"creative vision"
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 11:24    Post subject:
It's your choice to buy it, they don't force you. So they can do whatever they want.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 11:28    Post subject:
Bitching wrote:
It's your choice to buy it, they don't force you. So they can do whatever they want.


Nice!

Remind me again why I buy games? Fuck that bullshit. These companies wouldn't even EXIST without us, WE are the ones that should be catering to - not some fucking "creative vision" of theirs. If they want to indulge their "creative vision" - they can fuck off and do it with their own money, not mine.

Besides, you can go "buy a WS monitor then!!!11" all you want, that still doesn't change the fact that even THAT wouldn't work. 1680x1050 resolution is a 16:10 aspect ratio, so what happens when you play a game that was coded in 16:9? BLACK FUCKING BORDERS AGAIN. Same goes for vice-versa; play a game in 16:9 that was coded for 16:10 -- black borders. There's no fucking middle ground here, just a general "we piss on you" attitude from, ahem, "creative visionaries" >_>

Activation-based DRM + FORCED (haha, fuck you consumer! lolololol) widescreen = I won't be buying another Atari/Starbreeze product again. End of discussion, keep your flames to yourself guys.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 11:34    Post subject:
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 11:38    Post subject:
One last thing on this subject;

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Have a look at what the average resolution is. Oh yes. 1280x1024. By a fucking WORLD-sized margin. Hmmm, isn't that a 5:4 aspect ratio? Yeah, that's what I thought. It's closely followed by 1024x768, which is a 4:3 aspect ratio - and then, in 3rd place, 1680x1050 which is a 16:10 aspect ratio. So why the fuck don't games FULLY support the three most commonly used resolutions PROPERLY? Yeah, there's your "creative vision"
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 12:00    Post subject:
Hey sabin, crossing the border for your monitor purchase will probably cut the price a couple of hundred NOK (travel expenses excluded).
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 12:05    Post subject:
Aye, we were thinking of doing that this summer. We usually take a road-trip into Sweden to stock up on yummy duty-free supplies (tobacco is obscenely expensive here! Surprised) so we're gonna look at tech components this time too.

Don't get me wrong guys, I am NOT against widescreen aspect ratios (16:9 or 16:10) - but only when it's done properly and NOT to the exclusion of everything else. It's not difficult, unlike video, to give a game multiple aspect ratios - so I honestly don't know why we're all having to put up with black borders or forced 4:3/5:4 ratios. We should have the option to choose, no matter what we desire.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 12:12    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
One last thing on this subject;

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

Have a look at what the average resolution is. Oh yes. 1280x1024. By a fucking WORLD-sized margin. Hmmm, isn't that a 5:4 aspect ratio? Yeah, that's what I thought. It's closely followed by 1024x768, which is a 4:3 aspect ratio - and then, in 3rd place, 1680x1050 which is a 16:10 aspect ratio. So why the fuck don't games FULLY support the three most commonly used resolutions PROPERLY? Yeah, there's your "creative vision"

Laughing You take Steam surveys as real? Let me remind you of all the kiddies that play CS and CSS. That is enough to throw everything off balance for those surveys. Smile

sabin1981 wrote:
I forget nothing. I just want the choice. It's *my* game that *I* paid for, I don't want to be indulging some developers' wet-dream just so it can appeal to his ego-stroke-"creative vision"

Same can be said about textures, or models, or sounds. Rolling Eyes Why don't they give me the option to put my own textures? Who cares what the devs intended, right? I want Super Mario in my Riddick experience, and who are the devs to tell me it's not their intention? Embarassed Also, why must I play with Vin Diesel? Fuck the devs' intentions, I want Arnold Schwarzenegger yelling "I'm the paghti poopa" instead of Diesel saying "Beautiful" (or whatever). Why am not given the option? It's *my* game that *I* paid for, I don't want to be indulging some developers' wet-dream just so it can appeal to his ego-stroke-"creative vision". Embarassed Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 12:16    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:

Same can be said about textures, or models, or sounds. Rolling Eyes Why don't they give me the option to put my own textures? Who cares what the devs intended, right? I want Super Mario in my Riddick experience, and who are the devs to tell me it's not their intention? Embarassed


Because of COURSE that's the same thing, honest!
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 12:18    Post subject:
Read the edit. Smile

sabin1981 wrote:
Because of COURSE that's the same thing, honest!

If it's the same thing, why buy any game these days? They are all limited without modding tools.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 12:26    Post subject:
steam survey is as real as it gets ... and you hating steam (i do too, since the whole 1$ = 1€ debacle) or you hating cs/css won't change that.
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Apr 2009 12:28    Post subject:
You can take the piss all you want Leo, it doesn't change a thing. You and every one else knows I'm right. There is simply no reason to exclude xxxx resolutions or aspect ratios in favour of another. Not in computer games.
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