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nouseforaname
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Tainted, if you want to read Simmons I would suggest to begin with Hyperion and Endymion saga before Illium/Olympos because they seem, for me that is, to be easier for reading then Illium (quite a big book  ). And they'll get you warmed up for the rest of Simmons books. Oh I can't wait to pick up The fall of Hyperion !!
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sun, 17th May 2009 12:45 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | Tainted, if you want to read Simmons I would suggest to begin with Hyperion and Endymion saga before Illium/Olympos because they seem, for me that is, to be easier for reading then Illium (quite a big book ). And they'll get you warmed up for the rest of Simmons books. Oh I can't wait to pick up The fall of Hyperion !! |
As I said. |
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helvete
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| Posted: Sun, 17th May 2009 18:07 Post subject: |
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Ay ay Simmons and Reynolds are both great, but I'm surprised no one has suggested Frank Herbert yet. The original Dune series is the most epic space saga I've ever read. It's all about the post human condition and the wildly divergent future of mankind.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th May 2009 18:42 Post subject: |
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Uf, forgot about Herbert, I think I have only Butlerian Jihad, Machine Crusade and The Battle of Corrin to read. I've read all others (Houses, Messiah of Dune, Dune ect...).
@ Epsilon: I was talking from my perspective, as I've read ony Hyperion so far, and a friend of mine recomended Illium/Olimp to read after Hyperion and Endymion. I agree with you
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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lhzr
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helvete
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| Posted: Sun, 17th May 2009 20:31 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | Uf, forgot about Herbert, I think I have only Butlerian Jihad, Machine Crusade and The Battle of Corrin to read. I've read all others (Houses, Messiah of Dune, Dune ect...) |
Uhm you do know that Butlerian Jihad, Machine Crusade, House Harkonnen, House Atreides,The Battle of Corrin and a few more are written by Frank Herberts son Brian Herbert (and Kevin J Andersson) right? These books are IMO only for the fans of the original saga as they are nowhere near as epic and well written.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th May 2009 21:01 Post subject: |
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| helvete wrote: | | dingo_d wrote: | | Uf, forgot about Herbert, I think I have only Butlerian Jihad, Machine Crusade and The Battle of Corrin to read. I've read all others (Houses, Messiah of Dune, Dune ect...) |
Uhm you do know that Butlerian Jihad, Machine Crusade, House Harkonnen, House Atreides,The Battle of Corrin and a few more are written by Frank Herberts son Brian Herbert (and Kevin J Andersson) right? These books are IMO only for the fans of the original saga as they are nowhere near as epic and well written. |
I enjoyed them nevetheless 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Sun, 17th May 2009 21:03 Post subject: |
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I chose a random book off my shelf, and:
House of Leaves by Mark Z. Danielewski
Not a conventional novel, that's for sure.
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| Posted: Sun, 17th May 2009 23:08 Post subject: |
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pff
who reads books these days now that theres video games, cheap hookers everywhere, coke and poppers
yes
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| Posted: Mon, 18th May 2009 00:31 Post subject: |
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| cnZ wrote: | pff
who reads books these days now that theres video games, cheap hookers everywhere, coke and poppers |
People who aspire to have a greater IQ than a toad some day.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th May 2009 00:42 Post subject: |
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yeah, indeed
tho seeing my intelligent book reader-friends, i'm still thinking why arent they successful financially. cause lets be honest - its the only thing that gets you in good position in everyones eyes. cash = everything.
oh welllll..
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| Posted: Mon, 18th May 2009 00:47 Post subject: |
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| cnZ wrote: | yeah, indeed
tho seeing my intelligent book reader-friends, i'm still thinking why arent they successful financially. cause lets be honest - its the only thing that gets you in good position in everyones eyes. cash = everything.
oh welllll.. |
Maybe they realized that for them there is more to life and happiness than money? Besides, it could be argued that reading books gives you a broader perspective on things that will let you analyze said "things" and figure out innovative ways to profit from them.
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boffa86
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| Posted: Mon, 18th May 2009 00:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 18th May 2009 00:48 Post subject: |
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BWHAHA WHAT A NICE PRETENCE. RIGHTTTTTTTT
@tainted
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 18th May 2009 01:10 Post subject: |
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I suppose I'm alone in loving hard scifi by writers like Isaac Asimov and Greg Bear. I never could get into the space opera stuff for some reason, I always gravitate towards hard scifi with cerebral scientific (fictional) concepts that blow your mind etc...
Isaac Asimovs Robot novels (4 books) are amazing. They're basically detective stories taking place ~3000 years from now and are very cleverly written. I love them and have read them several times.
The Robot series:
The Caves of Steel
The Naked Sun
The Robots of Dawn
Robots and Empire
Caves of Steel synopsis and info:
| Quote: | In this novel, Isaac Asimov first introduced Elijah Baley and R. Daneel Olivaw, who would later become his, and more so his readers', favorite protagonists. They live roughly three millennia in Earth's future, a time when hyperspace travel has been discovered, and a few worlds relatively close to Earth have been colonised — fifty planets known as the "Spacer worlds." The Spacer worlds are rich, have low population density (average population of one hundred million each), and use robot labour very heavily. Meanwhile, Earth is overpopulated (with a total population of 8 billion), and strict rules against robots have been passed. The eponymous "caves of steel" are vast city complexes covered by huge metal domes, capable of supporting tens of millions each. The New York City of that era, for example, encompasses present-day New York State, as well as large tracts of New Jersey.
Asimov imagines the present day's underground transit connected to malls and apartment blocks, extended to a point where no one ever exits to the outside world. Indeed, most of the population cannot leave, as they suffer from extreme agoraphobia. Even though the Robots and Foundation series were not supposed to play in the same universe until much later, those 'caves of steel' could easily be construed as a foreshadowing of the planet Trantor.
In The Caves of Steel and its sequels, Asimov paints a grim situation of an Earth which has become pseudo-socialist to deal with an extremely large population, and of luxury-seeking Spacers who limit birth so that each may have great wealth and privacy. However, Asimov (who was agoraphobic) did not find the lack of daylight grim: one of his anecdotes tells how a reader asked him how he could have imagined such an existence with no sunlight. He relates that it had not struck him till then that living perpetually indoors might be construed as unpleasant. |
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Mon, 18th May 2009 01:21 Post subject: |
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| cnZ wrote: | yeah, indeed
tho seeing my intelligent book reader-friends, i'm still thinking why arent they successful financially. cause lets be honest - its the only thing that gets you in good position in everyones eyes. cash = everything.
oh welllll.. |
I told you before cnZ not everyone is willing to become a gay prostitute for cash unlike you
also less talking, more cock mongling please I paid for the whole hour
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd May 2009 14:10 Post subject: |
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OMG I just remembered: Isaac Asimov Foundation series! I read it like 5 yrs ago, I couldn't remember the title, but I remember the story. It's a good one...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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zipfero
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd May 2009 17:30 Post subject: |
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1984 - George Orwell
1985 - Anthony Burgess
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd May 2009 17:57 Post subject: |
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the bus driver who wanted to be god
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nouseforaname
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