[XBOX360] Rumor: New Xbox 360 "Banhammer"
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 02:25    Post subject:
=Edited=

I have nothing to say to you.


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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 02:26    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Munkeee wrote:
Seriously , If you didn't know they blow fuses so you can't downgrade the kernal to get the keys . Then stop being skeptical about it ffs


I'll stop being sceptical when you show me HARD evidence that Microsoft can send data down a phone-line that blows your HARDWARE!

Until then, no. I will not stop being sceptical.


Microsoft blow the fuses to stop you downgrading , I provided ample proof with the link I provided

Again I ask you to actually read into , Microsoft can and did blow efuses when the dash updated

I remember I had to drum the fucking hdd hack into your head . remember you refused point blank to believe you couldn't use your own 20gb key with a 120gb hard drive hack.....


sabin1981 wrote:
but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.

Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 02:34    Post subject:
=Edited=

I have nothing to say to you.


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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 02:37    Post subject:
SOMEONE PLZ QUOTE THIS FOR SABIN

sabin1981 wrote:
Actually I was the one that said you COULD! You guys constantly kept repeating "no you can't!" so I just walked away and ignored you all. Just like I'm doing now.

Protip: 1s and 0s are not "fuses" and you can't "blow" them either. Get your fucking terminology right. Microsoft cannot, and do not, remotely blow your fucking hardware.

Now, because I'm kinda sick of reading your nonsense, you're going on ignore.

=Edit=

AHAHAHAHA!!

Now you've changed your post to say "eFuse" instead... lol. I take it you just did some reading of your own and realised you were wrong, so hastily edited your post Razz

Fail.


sabin1981 wrote:
You're supposed to use your OWN hddss.bin from your OWN hard-disk. Wink


http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50882&highlight=

There I have proved you wrong with one simple quote ,

And on the fuse argument , Actually read up on it before you start speaking about the context , fuses are blown , and if you read the timing attack thread their is a perfect example . Because with your argument there you made a cunt of yourself . AGAIN

But as the 120 gig thread proved . YOU suddenly shut the fuck up when your wrong... and your pitiful "omg ignorz" is proof yet again

Don't see why I'm arguing with a troll tbh , but your a wank and your worth the effort

And by your nice little edits , I guess you actually read into it . I actually hope I'm on ignore so I have the pleasure of not having to ever interact with you again . I'll ignore you in the morning incase you actually have anything that isn't a lot of shite to contribute


sabin1981 wrote:
but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.

Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin
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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 03:07    Post subject: Re: [XBOX360] Rumor: New Xbox 360 "Banhammer"
michu64 wrote:

The update is being released in an attempt to render all modded Xbox 360s unplayable, and unable to play pirated X360 games.

Unplayable, huh? That's BS .You will not be able to play pirated games, that's all. Originals will work fine of course. MS can do it, why not.
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ShadowX




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 03:58    Post subject:
Well if they update the console that makes every copied game unplayable thats there right to do , however they may not destroy it meaning im sure that if this rumor is true that they will make sure that u still can run originals.

Still would be funny if they did Very Happy , I love reading forums with people crying how there copied games not work anymore and how lame Microsoft is then .


Owell will be fun , personaly I dont care I buy all my games however I do download games also to test them if they worth buying and the ones I dont like I throw either away or my son plays them on my flashed box , mine and my wifes boxes are not flashed .
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 04:31    Post subject:
i seriously doubt it happens, but i wouldn't say it's not possible. any directv fans remember black sunday?
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Mr_Baggins




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 08:24    Post subject:
ShadowX wrote:

Still would be funny if they did Very Happy , I love reading forums with people crying how there copied games not work anymore and how lame Microsoft is then .


Actually how would they do it - they would have to tinker with drive firmware. If they implement the update on new games, the scene releases would have the update disabled. I doubt microshit will win.


11th "Thou shalt not flash"
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nukeitup




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 08:48    Post subject:
wow these dumb fucks should be glad that their shit box was hacked other wise I and many others would have never bought it. I never bought ps3 only because its not cracked. the video game companies are the once who are loosing not the console developers, if anything the pirates helped to boost Microsoft sales unlike Sony.
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jmdeking




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 09:20    Post subject:
nukeitup wrote:
wow these dumb fucks should be glad that their shit box was hacked other wise I and many others would have never bought it. I never bought ps3 only because its not cracked. the video game companies are the once who are loosing not the console developers, if anything the pirates helped to boost Microsoft sales unlike Sony.


But also the pricedrops helped boosting sales for m$
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 10:36    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
deelix wrote:
ok, I buy all my games. Rolling Eyes


I don't. I'm not paying €40++ for games I already, majority wise, have on the PC - often in better quality too.

I have a handful of originals, that's it.

I'd do the same if Sony released a fix for the PSP that stopped ISOs/CSOs working. I'd get rid of my PSP too.




.... oh and if you buy all your games, why did you want your 360 flashed? Razz Very Happy
You got the Rolling Eyes part, right Very Happy ?

burned 120 games, mygamercard say I have played 173, so probably arcade games and some few iv loaned from friends. And not giving a shit about achievements is still = over 36k :/
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 10:43    Post subject:
Didn't you notice the Razz part? Very Happy I was just messing about mate, lol. If this does happen, I'll most likely just end up selling my 360 anyway. I strongly doubt it will though, seems a little too perfect.

And as far as this whole "Microsoft will blow your fuses! LOLZ" nonsense goes? I still say it's a crock of shit, though from what I can gather from reading last night - they're not "fuses" in the GIVEN definition of the word. I was under the impression, further enforced by Munkee's elitist rambling, that "blowing the fusez LOLZ" was in reference to REAL fuses. The shit that's built into the 360, the IBM technology called "eFuse" is NOT the same thing, hence my confusion.

I guess I just got the wrong end of the stick about the whole thing. So I apologise for my confusion and annoyance.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 11:15    Post subject:
ah, ok then.

Anyway, gametrailers.com an reliable source? Think we are in the clear^^
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 11:18    Post subject:
I've no doubt at all that MS are beavering away on trying to stop the firmware hacks, I just don't believe for a second that this is real.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 11:19    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I've no doubt at all that MS are beavering away on trying to stop the firmware hacks, I just don't believe for a second that this is real.
exactly
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armando99
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 12:08    Post subject:
doesnt scare me at all
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 14:37    Post subject:
Munkeee wrote:
SOMEONE PLZ QUOTE THIS FOR SABIN

sabin1981 wrote:
Actually I was the one that said you COULD! You guys constantly kept repeating "no you can't!" so I just walked away and ignored you all. Just like I'm doing now.

Protip: 1s and 0s are not "fuses" and you can't "blow" them either. Get your fucking terminology right. Microsoft cannot, and do not, remotely blow your fucking hardware.

Now, because I'm kinda sick of reading your nonsense, you're going on ignore.

=Edit=

AHAHAHAHA!!

Now you've changed your post to say "eFuse" instead... lol. I take it you just did some reading of your own and realised you were wrong, so hastily edited your post Razz

Fail.


sabin1981 wrote:
You're supposed to use your OWN hddss.bin from your OWN hard-disk. Wink


http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=50882&highlight=

There I have proved you wrong with one simple quote ,

And on the fuse argument , Actually read up on it before you start speaking about the context , fuses are blown , and if you read the timing attack thread their is a perfect example . Because with your argument there you made a cunt of yourself . AGAIN

But as the 120 gig thread proved . YOU suddenly shut the fuck up when your wrong... and your pitiful "omg ignorz" is proof yet again

Don't see why I'm arguing with a troll tbh , but your a wank and your worth the effort

And by your nice little edits , I guess you actually read into it . I actually hope I'm on ignore so I have the pleasure of not having to ever interact with you again . I'll ignore you in the morning incase you actually have anything that isn't a lot of shite to contribute


This whole thread is nonsense. MS will not brick consoles intentionallly whether they have been flashed or not.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 14:51    Post subject:
Uuu I'm so scared Laughing wtf people use your heads this is not doable, even if it is a new iextreme driver would come out that would counter it.
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slenoj




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 15:15    Post subject:
It's just ps3 jealousy that their console can't be hacked... stuff em they knew the score when they bought it, they let the side down..... don't buy unhackable consoles, you know it makes sense.
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condomcrack
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 15:37    Post subject:
Varning if you open up your xbox 360, the "chip smashers" will activate and destroy your xbox 360.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 15:37    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
This whole thread is nonsense. MS will not brick consoles intentionallly whether they have been flashed or not.


This.

Makes no sense. They have enough trouble with RROD, why intentionally break your products now?


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RMFX




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 15:51    Post subject:
Ashmolly wrote:
RMFX wrote:
This whole thread is nonsense. MS will not brick consoles intentionallly whether they have been flashed or not.


This.

Makes no sense. They have enough trouble with RROD, why intentionally break your products now?


Well, from a legal stand-point it wouldn't make any sense. They just would not get away with intenntionally destroying peoples xboxes even if those machines were modified in some way. It would also be a major PR disaster which would only serve to tarnish the companies reputation and further damage the xbox 360's brand image, which let's face it, is already held in quite low regard by a lot of people after the whole RROD fiasco.

It's a complettely ridiculous idea Razz
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deadmarsh




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 15:55    Post subject:
so for those that have read psychology know how rumours work right? Smile
1 person tells another a story and each time this happens the story changes abit.
So after 5-6 persons it might be VERY diffrent.
Imo wait and see. Dont think Microsoft is lacking too much common sense, they do like their customers atleast unlike sony. *mutters*
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 16:21    Post subject:
It's the same thing when Ea said pirated copies could damage you computer, transmit viruses, you get an incomplete game that crashes and is unstable etc. now that may not be true but it may distance some ignorant fools, or gamers, from piracy and make them buy the game how can they know it's all a load of bullshit. Same thing here some ignorant fool will reconsider flashing their xbox if it has a chance of blowing up in your face Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 17:56    Post subject:
Nonsense, can't believe somebody believes this shit :S
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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 18:06    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:

This whole thread is nonsense. MS will not brick consoles intentionallly whether they have been flashed or not.


Which is what I implied in my first post and actually said in my second....

Has anyone in this actual thread supported the rumour ? It's obvious you have read it thoroughly


sabin1981 wrote:
but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.

Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin
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nightlith




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 18:12    Post subject:
Sabin, munkee is right on this one. They're called eFuses. Intel invented/patented them. NXE blew one when it came out, that's why you can't downgrade it at all. It's impressive technology to say the least.

As for this whole 'forced update' BS...lol. Seriously. Let em. Go ahead MS, forcefully brick my console. Do it. Please? Cooome on, wreck it, ruin it. Make it so I never, ever, in a million fucking years buy anything you ever make ever again. You think anyone in the world would ever buy a MS console after word of mouth spread that little tale? Hah.

Also, what makes the console theirs after I buy it? Modding a console isn't illegal. It's MINE. I can do whatever I want with it. If they want to put out a patch to fix exploits, fine, that's their right. But it's MY right to choose to install that update or not. They don't force windows updates on people, so why would they force console updates?

I love rumors like this, god damn those comments are full of lol


-EDIT-

IBM not Intel...heh my bad. Didn't realise there was more pages to this topic . Sabin you gotta chill man, lol. I knew what fuses he was referring to becaume I'm familiar with the technology. You got all upitty because of your own misunderstanding and you just look foolish ignoring munkee because of it. You guys hug and make up right now Very Happy

Really though, an efuse is still a fuse. It gets tripped like a fuse, and hell ORIGINALLY the term for fuse meant something you'd light to ignite a cannon or dynamite. So definitions expand to incorperate changes. Just because it's only 1's and 0's doesn't mean it can't be a fuse.


i can has computar?!


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 18:13    Post subject:
accountbroken wrote:
Nonsense, can't believe somebody believes this shit :S


Certainly none of us believe it, lol. My earlier comments are in regards to whether or not it's possible (I believe it IS possible, just that THIS particular rumour is bullshit) and that if by some miracle it DOES happen - I'll be getting rid of my Xbox.
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 18:15    Post subject:
Munkeee wrote:
RMFX wrote:

This whole thread is nonsense. MS will not brick consoles intentionallly whether they have been flashed or not.


Which is what I implied in my first post and actually said in my second....

Has anyone in this actual thread supported the rumour ? It's obvious you have read it thoroughly


Listen genius, I wasn't singling you out. Infact, I was doing you a favour by quoting your post for you.

You're welcome BTW! Rolling Eyes
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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd May 2009 18:26    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
Munkeee wrote:
RMFX wrote:

This whole thread is nonsense. MS will not brick consoles intentionallly whether they have been flashed or not.


Which is what I implied in my first post and actually said in my second....

Has anyone in this actual thread supported the rumour ? It's obvious you have read it thoroughly


Listen genius, I wasn't singling you out. Infact, I was doing you a favour by quoting your post for you.

You're welcome BTW! Rolling Eyes


which he basically addressed in a later post , showed you once again how much you read the thread .

nightlith wrote:


IBM not Intel...heh my bad. Didn't realise there was more pages to this topic . Sabin you gotta chill man, lol. I knew what fuses he was referring to becaume I'm familiar with the technology. You got all upitty because of your own misunderstanding and you just look foolish ignoring munkee because of it. You guys hug and make up right now Very Happy


Sabin has a habit of this , I know I look a twat argueing with him but he is worth it


sabin1981 wrote:
but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.

Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin


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