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haha omfg that is rediculous! Fair enough porked totaly then, you have my heart felt sympathy on this one hehe.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th May 2009 15:07 Post subject: |
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QQ more please
obviously the new system is unstable, patience
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chiv
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| Posted: Sun, 24th May 2009 15:51 Post subject: |
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UNSTABLE?! unstable is when a good idea doesnt work quite how it was planned. this system is ENTIRELY poorly conceived in every way, so stability has nothing to do with it 
but hey, whatever, i dont mind jumping on a spectator server while i sleep to get all the weapons, i mean after all thats what valve had in mind i guess
im not complaining as such... i mean hey, i dont even have to play to get all the weapons.. all im pointing out is how silly valves concept is, and how counter-productive it is too.. valve has managed to completely reverse the system which USED to reward you with great stuff, for playing the game and becoming better - now the best way to get rewards is to NOT play the game.. why would you support such a stupid system?
edit: games still in spec mode while i do other shit... just got the scouts new shotgun 
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Sun, 24th May 2009 17:36 Post subject: |
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There are actually servers dedicated to idling.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th May 2009 17:53 Post subject: |
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lol going to sleep, leaving myself idled in a server. so lame, but may aswell game it whilst i can.
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Baleur
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| Posted: Sun, 24th May 2009 20:08 Post subject: |
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Cloak and dagger fits well for me. I like to sit still and wait for opportunities.
What I don't like is the other watch. For the most part it only works for the first time. After that, the other team gets wise as to which spy has the watch and will be more thorough from then on .
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chiv
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| Posted: Sun, 24th May 2009 21:17 Post subject: |
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got the sandman and another shield. valves 'dont play the game in order to get cool shit' strategy ftw again!!
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| Posted: Sun, 24th May 2009 21:27 Post subject: |
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 07:40 Post subject: |
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whats there to get.. the system is designed to punsh people that play and reward people who dont.. if that was valves goal then yay for them.
as far as idling being retarded... the new system is designed FOR retards who are no good at the game. the rest of us who got the weapons through achievements never had a problem with the old way - it was much much better.
went to sleep and came back and now i have 2 bonks, a second blutsauger, ubersaw, blitzkrieg, 2 more bats, and the dead ringer.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 07:55 Post subject: |
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Okey i will agree that receiving shit while not even playing is a big fuck up, but other than that its fine, you play = you get unlocks
achievements had nothing to do with being good lol
not now and not before the update, also please explain how the old system was better
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 08:07 Post subject: |
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old system was better because the weapons were something to aim for.. a really neat reward for trying to accomplish achievements
and why do you say achievements have nothing to do with being good? many of them were pretty challenging...obviously im not talking about the 'kill 1000 ppl' ones..
to me, this new system COULD work, if there was atleast some kind of ability to benefit MORE from the system depending on how well or how often you play.. like the longer you PLAY on the server, the greater your chance... or the better your k/d ratio was.. or even how many overall achievements youve unlocked, could have had some kind of effect... that way, even people who dont play often still HAVE a chance, but those who do play lots get better rewarded... but totally random drops? nah i just dont like it, i prefer the weapons to be rewards, its more fun to me that way....
oh sweet, just checked the game again.. its been minimised on an idle server for the last 12 hours.. i just got the ambassador
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 08:23 Post subject: |
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I see what you mean but the achievements were more based on luck not skills, seriously name one achievement where you actually need skills to complete it
Now i dont have to focus on doing all those annoying and frustrating achievements so i can get my bloody flaregun , just playing, receiving achis and receiving weapons
just like i did earlier but without having to focus on a single achievement in order to get something(thats why people ended up in achievement servers)
And i agree with that the system should take in to compensation how many kills/deaths u got how many achievements u got and how fast u got em etc etc
but from what ive been reading that wont happen :S
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 08:34 Post subject: |
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well i remember a pyro achievement, having to deflect rockets and kill people with em or something like that... thats skill definately not luck.. there was one also for burning then finishing off with shotgun, and while i agree that there are many achievements that do require luck, they also do require some kind of skill as well... theres no way you can suck at the game and fluke all the achievements
but hey, even if they were all luck.. atleast its something to keep playing for and hope you 'fluke' the achievements.. you still have to play to luck out and get em and get the rewards... which is great, like i said, playing to get the achievements... through luck or skill... and then getting rewards for them... that was GREAT fun.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 08:34 Post subject: |
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| JahLux wrote: | | I see what you mean but the achievements were more based on luck not skills, seriously name one achievement where you actually need skills to complete it |
They are based on skill, but also a bit of luck (particularly if you don't know what the goal of each achievement is). If you get owned all the time, you won't be able to get many achievements.
The problem with this new system is two-folded:
a) You get awarded for doing nothing. It awards laziness (hence the now idle-achievement-servers)
b) The rate at which you get items is awful, and most of the time you end up getting items you already have, or items to classes you don't like playing, or play rarely
Hats also need an achievement, because their rate is completely below the table. |
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 08:47 Post subject: |
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yeah thats why the system sucks. i dont play the game for 5 hours nonstop. i play hardcore for an hour, then leave... so yeah people like me, will now most of the time get NOTHING.. i have NEVER EVER used an achievement server, i think they ruin the fun of the game, but because as i said i only play for like an hour or 30 minute bursts, the sad fact is, because of valves new system the idle servers are the ONLY way now that i will EVER get any of the new weapons.
just got another kritzkrieg
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 13:07 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | well i remember a pyro achievement, having to deflect rockets and kill people with em or something like that... thats skill definately not luck.. there was one also for burning then finishing off with shotgun, and while i agree that there are many achievements that do require luck, they also do require some kind of skill as well... theres no way you can suck at the game and fluke all the achievements
but hey, even if they were all luck.. atleast its something to keep playing for and hope you 'fluke' the achievements.. you still have to play to luck out and get em and get the rewards... which is great, like i said, playing to get the achievements... through luck or skill... and then getting rewards for them... that was GREAT fun. |
i agree some of them actually need skills and they are fun but most of them were annoying and made you wana go join an achievement server..
been playing for a while now and i can understand why a lot of people are pissed off, especially the ones who just wana get their unlocks and continue playing and those who get duplicates all the time, but still people are overreacting, sending tons of emails to gabe and what not just because they couldnt get their precious ambassador after playing for a few hours thats just dumb
just look at tf2 forums 
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 19:17 Post subject: |
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 25th May 2009 19:33 Post subject: |
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hahah brilliant, and yeah, that comic totally fucking nailed valves new epic system
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| Posted: Wed, 27th May 2009 18:30 Post subject: |
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What servers do you guys play on? im having a hard time finding good ones
AND WHERES MY GOD DAMN DEAD RINGER FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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| Posted: Sat, 30th May 2009 02:38 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Sep 2009 12:48 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Sep 2009 12:58 Post subject: |
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So idling is now considered a cheat? Wonder if it just kicks you off the server or actually bans you the same as if you were using an aimbot? Doubt they would actually ban people for idling.
edit:
"TF_CheatDetected_Title" "WARNING"
"TF_CheatDetectedMinor" "Your account has been flagged for circumventing the item distribution system. We have removed the items that were illegally obtained.\n\nFuture violations will result in the loss of all your items."
"TF_CheatDetectedMajor" "Your account has been flagged for circumventing the item distribution system. We have removed all items in your inventory.\n\nFuture violations may result in your account being disabled."
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Sep 2009 13:03 Post subject: |
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How does it detect you're idling? What if you do +forward +left +attack. Or AutoIt script?
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Sep 2009 13:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Sep 2009 13:17 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Sep 2009 13:32 Post subject: |
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I WAS VAC BANNED
Dumbass.
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Nice.
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