ARMA 2 [NR / 2008]
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 11:46    Post subject:
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Just wait 5 days for the launch of the english version, you can't play this game right now anyway with the german beta, wait for english ver. plus new patch 1.02.


^^ eh? I play it fine with german release all in English language, played last night nice 6 man coop on Airport invasion mission (user made) never dropped below 50fps all very high.. All I removed was motion blur, still kept some head bobbing on as that is an awesome immersion bit of head bob Very Happy (at least half way for the feel of pace and worry when fleeing a scene)
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 12:02    Post subject:
Try playing the campaign missions, buggy as a nest full of bugs.
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vonwombat




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 12:40    Post subject:
Hello,

I've been following the forum for some time, but I decided to register and ask for advice since I badly want to play Arma II and atm I can't because of performance problems.

I'm at the 3rd mission(I think), the one in Chernogorsk and when I look towards the city I'm getting 10-12 FPS with details set to around high, 100% fill rate and 2000 draw distance. Since I figured my PC is not strong enough to run the game with those settings, I set the quality preference to low and the improvements where minimal, since the game ran at around 17-20 FPS.

I'm running the game on a C2D@3Ghz, Radeon HD4870 512 MB(Catalyst 9.6), 4GB RAM and Vista x64 Ultimate. The only cause I could think of is the low video memory, but even with that I should be able to at least run the game with decent FPS on low settings.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Smile
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SexyPig




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 12:54    Post subject:
This game needs 3000$ pc. Developers dont care for customers these times and releasing games in beta state. Just wait couple of years till you buy new hardware.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 14:24    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
Try playing the campaign missions, buggy as a nest full of bugs.


Yeah i did the campaign and it has bugs of course annoying at times, but I didnt get that was what your were commenting on. Who cares for campaign anyhow? its ok if your pirating it of course but cant moan if you dont own it legit.. Mp is where it shines still.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 14:35    Post subject:
vonwombat wrote:
Hello,

I've been following the forum for some time, but I decided to register and ask for advice since I badly want to play Arma II and atm I can't because of performance problems.

I'm at the 3rd mission(I think), the one in Chernogorsk and when I look towards the city I'm getting 10-12 FPS with details set to around high, 100% fill rate and 2000 draw distance. Since I figured my PC is not strong enough to run the game with those settings, I set the quality preference to low and the improvements where minimal, since the game ran at around 17-20 FPS.

I'm running the game on a C2D@3Ghz, Radeon HD4870 512 MB(Catalyst 9.6), 4GB RAM and Vista x64 Ultimate. The only cause I could think of is the low video memory, but even with that I should be able to at least run the game with decent FPS on low settings.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Smile


Hard to say, as your system is close to my spec, e6600@3.3ghz slightly underclocked ram below 800mhz now with 1:1 ratio I find the best experience so far for frame rates 50>60 last night with 6 player coop.

Dont use low shadows either its buggy just like it was in arma1, at least high and some people see better performance with very high shadows.. your card ram would be nice if its higher yes but still you should be ok really.

Have you tried the -maxmem= switch yet? There is a ton of info at the BiS forums have you looked there as well?

Right now the game is cpu intense I think, open Your CCC and monitor the overclock info where it shows gpu useage and temps.. If you are seeing your card running at 25% or so use you know there is a issue be it driver/arma config issues etc and I highly recomend you deleting the configs and letting arma rebuild them.. Especially if you have just re installed the official 9.6 cats from the leaked ones or 9.5..

If you can clock your cpu slightly to 3.2ghz should assist you a little as well. And you should be able to do that without any hassle as its straight forward small clock. Just make sure it dont push any ram speeds over the spec they are meant for..

You can also try turning down the shaderdetail=10 to say 8 in your profile.arma.cfg file. along with turning off trackir if not used to =0 and vibration to =0.

Also you might as well turn off anisotropic filtering to =0 and use ur cards set at x8 as your card is probably not running full bore anyhow in arma so wont hurt to take some strain off the game engine/cpu.

If you get really desperate and have not found it to still work anyway, try reducing the scenecomplexity setting in same profile to say 160000 (standard is 300000) also if your wanting to enjoy sp more, set terraingrid= to =50 Very Happy no more grass and much better performance, good idea for some more fun until a vegetation mod is about or the devs fix the laggy shit that is plants.

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oh p.s after you have deleted the configs dont start arma first, go to your shortcut for the game and add -window << try in window mode alot get way better performance in it. you will be able to just drag the size of your window to almost ur full screen size as well.

Then start arma and go from there Very Happy
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 14:58    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
madmax17 wrote:
Try playing the campaign missions, buggy as a nest full of bugs.


Yeah i did the campaign and it has bugs of course annoying at times, but I didnt get that was what your were commenting on. Who cares for campaign anyhow? its ok if your pirating it of course but cant moan if you dont own it legit.. Mp is where it shines still.
wtf is that supposed to mean, I don't play or care for multi much, of course I care about the campaign that's what made the original OF and any other game that isn't mmo for that matter.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 15:01    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:
madmax17 wrote:
Try playing the campaign missions, buggy as a nest full of bugs.


Yeah i did the campaign and it has bugs of course annoying at times, but I didnt get that was what your were commenting on. Who cares for campaign anyhow? its ok if your pirating it of course but cant moan if you dont own it legit.. Mp is where it shines still.
wtf is that supposed to mean, I don't play or care for multi much, of course I care about the campaign that's what made the original OF and any other game that isn't mmo for that matter.


It means that although the game comes with sp content its not generally like supposed to be primarily for sp content, yeah its bugged so what all ofp/arma's are what part of that dont you understand?

Arma IS and always WILL be a mulitplayer gaming experience, not single player quality.
Another reason why mp coop campaign is split into sep missions and not a proper long coop campaign.. face it arma2 is like arma1 built for mp/mods/community input.

Why you so mad boy...
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 15:24    Post subject:
It won't be bugged after a few patches and again I don't care about multi, OF was perfectly playable from beginning to end again after a few patches, this game isn't you can't even order your men around in a couple of missions.

The campaign is great actually if not mini-revolutionary for ex. in the first mission if the enemy hits the chopper you might get a mission to rescue the pilots, if they don't bring it down you won't get that mission, dynamic campaign or whatever they call it, and the choices you make throught the game have an impact on later missions like making the alliance between the two outlaw groups.

So it's not multi-only at all, not sure what makes you think that, it has a better campaign then a bunch of sp games out there, some of us don't play multi you know.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 15:39    Post subject:
Ok thats all good, it is better than before generally and does make for a good sp campaign when it is fully patched and no bugs to cause issues in that campaign. And i suppose you can get more sp made missions/campaigns for it, its just you dont hear from those players a great deal, and coop with friends is so much more fun I find than keeping such a wide open dynamic game as arma contained to just sp..

Im curious now, what is the reason you dont play multi ?
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 15:50    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Ok thats all good, it is better than before generally and does make for a good sp campaign when it is fully patched and no bugs to cause issues in that campaign. And i suppose you can get more sp made missions/campaigns for it, its just you dont hear from those players a great deal, and coop with friends is so much more fun I find than keeping such a wide open dynamic game as arma contained to just sp..

Im curious now, what is the reason you dont play multi ?
Well I did play Cod4 multi, not bad but it got boring to quick, nothing but enter map, kill/die, repeat with different map, seems like 90% of fps games follow that pattern.

I do plan on trying mutli because I like this game but not before I finish the camapign and it's kinda of hard at this point with all the bugs, I have to shoot my mates in the leg then heal them otherwise they won't follow me.
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 18:38    Post subject:
For me what sticks out in my memory from my time with Operation Flashpoint is the strong single-player campaign, the easy to use sandbox editor and the standard-setting approach to large scale warfare. The many, many modifications & addons help as well. The multiplayer was really the icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned. Great, yes, but not the defining feature.

From what I've played of ArmA2's singleplayer campaign they have really tried something ambitious and potentially hugely rewarding but I have to admit that it does get tiring with all the bugs and glitches. Not to say I don't love the game and plod on regardless - but I am hoping it can be polished up a lot more as the further you get in the more you realise the glitches are rather random and can popup when you least expect it.

Still having a blast with the game though.


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 18:55    Post subject:
Is there a quick way to make my own scenario like the Freedom Fighters one? I love the open world, and money earning/spending in it. I kinda want one as another faction, and during the day though.
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Paintface




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 19:05    Post subject:
for you who had video errors, ATI 9.6 drivers are out
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 22:16    Post subject:
OF campaign was epic I wish someone makes a mod so we can play all of it threw Arma2.

Arma2 is great but too short, not as epic as OF but with mods sky is the limit.
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suprman




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 22:44    Post subject:
Does Anybody mind posting the oz keys URL here for me again? I dont remember what page it was on and really cant be arsed to look back through them, thanks.

Edit nevermind I got it
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 22:55    Post subject:
madmax17 wrote:
OF campaign was epic I wish someone makes a mod so we can play all of it threw Arma2.

Arma2 is great but too short, not as epic as OF but with mods sky is the limit.


ive been playing 10 missions from ofp converted to arma2 Very Happy
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 23:18    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
madmax17 wrote:
OF campaign was epic I wish someone makes a mod so we can play all of it threw Arma2.

Arma2 is great but too short, not as epic as OF but with mods sky is the limit.


ive been playing 10 missions from ofp converted to arma2 Very Happy
Yeah I've tried those. Either I can't remember what OF was like or those missions have very little to do with OF, I just couldn't see the connection.

What would be epic if someone did the whole campaign with voices and all, exactly like OF, if the missions can be extracted with the same editor as Arma2 it should be a cinch.
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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Jun 2009 23:54    Post subject:
There is a team working on redoing the OFP campaign for ArmA.. So we can assume they will do the same for ArmA2.
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ruud28




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 05:42    Post subject:
where do i find the ofp converted missions? thanks
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 07:02    Post subject:
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=5743

I guess those are what you're referring to. Smile
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Radamez




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 14:09    Post subject:
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 14:31    Post subject:
Radamez wrote:
Eurogamer review


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"Awesome moments. This is real war. Give the AI a medal! The campaign - absolutely incredible! So atmospheric. Landscape almost real. I killed a rabbit! Thank you so much BIS. Heaps of bugs. Buy this game."


Lulz
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 14:58    Post subject:
Great review, he mentions many negative elements that most mainstream reviewers won't even know about, let alone care to mention... and he still rates it highly.


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madmax17




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 15:05    Post subject:
They tend to hit the nail on the head with their reviews but why so few of them? Like 1 review per month or something for pc gaming.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 15:38    Post subject:
Cause they are so accurate and honest im guessing it would take some real time to do such good review really, I mean if your gonna do it properly and they have plenty else things to do that is probably why. Maybe not many able to get on and do more reviews?

I dunno I dont use that site or any really for reviews but that was class and will keep an eye on it in future for more accurate representation of new game releases.
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 15:55    Post subject:
Well looking at the dates maybe I overreacted Very Happy but I swear they are always the last one to, few exceptions excluded, put a review out but again one of the best in terms of quality. Some games they never even reviewed and they weren't unknown games either.
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 20:16    Post subject:
Well, I purchased a legit key to play the German patched to English release online. Whoever said that there was around 400 people in the servers severely overestimated. Also, the filters are broken and don't save, along with the fact that every single server is running some different mode/map and there is no standardization at all.

I was in a server last night that was running some counter-strike like mode (you got points for taking over towns and killing enemies). That's all well and dandy apart from the fact that there was absolutely no mode of transportation on the map, and the nearest hot spot was literally a 20 minute run away. I did about 40 minutes of running that game, saw 1 enemy tank, which then proceeded to off me at an insane distance while I was prone in the bush behind a tree before I could even aim the RPG7.

Tad frustrated....


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Rudolph




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 20:23    Post subject:
Hello.
I tried the game last weekend and I have a serious problem which surely was mentioned here before but I don't wanna read through 30 pages. Very Happy
The whole game looks blurry, like I have jizz in my eyes.. Laughing
Only the game itself is blurry, so I can't hit shit that is 100 meters away from me. Sad
Text is perfectly visible only the game.
I have a good 'ole Geforce 8800GTX with 185.xx drivers running on XP or 7.
I tried only XP so far, I guess 7 has the same problem...

Someone help please. Thanks in advance.
Just tell me the page where this problem might have been solved already. Smile
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BLuNT318




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Jun 2009 21:00    Post subject:
Rudolph wrote:
Hello.
I tried the game last weekend and I have a serious problem which surely was mentioned here before but I don't wanna read through 30 pages. Very Happy
The whole game looks blurry, like I have jizz in my eyes.. Laughing
Only the game itself is blurry, so I can't hit shit that is 100 meters away from me. Sad
Text is perfectly visible only the game.
I have a good 'ole Geforce 8800GTX with 185.xx drivers running on XP or 7.
I tried only XP so far, I guess 7 has the same problem...

Someone help please. Thanks in advance.
Just tell me the page where this problem might have been solved already. Smile



1st step; Remove jizz from eyes Razz I haven't played the game with jizz in my eyes, but perhaps I do know that problem you are having, as I have the same card. Happens to me and I just back out to the menu and go back in game and it's fine. Using 186.08 drivers. Lemme know...


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