Buying Keyboard/Mouse
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Feb 2013 12:09    Post subject:
The G500 is as close as you'll get to the mx518.

However I personally found the G9x to be better than then G500 (and the NAOS 5k to have a better form).


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Ci2e




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Feb 2013 15:35    Post subject:
What about the Magic Mouse, it is sleek in design and has a bunch of built in features. I bet it wouldn't be good for gaming though.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Feb 2013 15:54    Post subject:
That is one of the least ergonomic mice out there. The touch sensitive top is quite good to use, but the thing itself is just horrible. Don't do it.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Feb 2013 16:05    Post subject:
Ive been thinking of getting a new keyboard.
My mx518 is still kicking, and I got a few spares I collected over the years hardly used..so I think Im set on mice for about 5 decades with them..lol

95% of my keyboards have been the 'rubber bubble' type. not mechanical. Been looking around, but not sure which cherryMX type i would need.

Blues, look good as I do a LOT of typing for work, but also game a good bit. And I like the idea of the click and bump. But cant find any good examples of how loud it would be. I dont mind noise so much though.
My case and fans for example, long as I don't have to yell over it, its quiet enough Smile
But I don't want a keyboard that sounds like one of the old IBM 'clacker' keyboards either. I got one of them stored downstairs, it sounds like typing on an old typewriter.

Anyone have any recommendation on a good daily cherryMX switch type? I spend about 12 hours a day on my PC between work and gaming.


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Ci2e




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 01:30    Post subject:
Might help if you read the entire thread first.

SpykeZ wrote:
Cherry MX Browns are better for gaming/typing as a whole which the Logitech G710 uses.

Otherwise stick with Ducky's. They're the kings of mechanical boards.

in general
blues= typing
browns = middleground typing and gaming
blacks=fps as you dont want accidental key presses and you dont really need to double tap as much as you would in true RTS games (not ideal for typing though)
reds = lighter blacks
greens?? = heavier blues??

If you can order them and want to try this, you can get the key tester pack for 5 bucks

http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-keyboard-keycap-cherry-mx-switch-o-ring-sampler-kit.html

Give This Guide a read through to about mechanicals and why even PS/2 ports are still better for keyboards than USB


I ordered it and here is what I found.

Ci2e wrote:
Just got the sample kit today.

Cherry MX Black - No Bump, No Click, No Tactile Feedback
Cherry MX Red - No Bump, No Click, No Tactile Feedback
Cherry MX Brown - Slight Bump, Subtle Click, Subtle Tactile Feedback
Cherry MX Blue - Big Bump, Loud Click, Very Distinct Tactile Feedback

I can't tell a difference at all between the Black and Red.


Browns are best for working/gaming.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 01:38    Post subject:
You cant just say what is the best switch for gaming... I prefer MX Blue over anything else, its just matter of taste. Red ones are absolutely shit, no feeling at all, and rest expect blue is nearly the same. Love the sounds of blue and feeling Razz Have also old IBM model M, which is like old typewriter, whole neightborhood wakes up if i type with that (buckling spring switches) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 01:40    Post subject:
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Ci2e




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 03:47    Post subject:
That would be nice for casual browsing but not for gaming, I'd be interested in seeing a video of someone trying to use the Magic Track Pad for gaming.

I only say Browns over Blues because Blues it's hard to tap repeatedly, and Browns are the only other choice that has that tactile feedback of the actuation point. Besides I hear it works best for gaming/typing.
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Ci2e




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 10:03    Post subject:
I decided on the Steel Series Sensei primarily because of it's design but it feels like a huge rock compared to my old Razer Diamondback. If I can find something better I'll be selling this Sensei on eBay.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 11:27    Post subject:
Ci2e wrote:
I decided on the Steel Series Sensei primarily because of it's design but it feels like a huge rock compared to my old Razer Diamondback. If I can find something better I'll be selling this Sensei on eBay.


Really?
I had the Naga (and epic) before this one, this one is way smaller then the Naga (and epic).
So is the Diamondback that much smaller then the Naga (and epic)? Neutral


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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 14:41    Post subject:
Deathadder all the way for me, I will never own a wireless mouse....ever! Don't need 30 buttons on my mouse either, keeping it simple, and that's why I love the deathadder.

For keyboard, saitek eclipse II, been using saitek keyboards for close to 10 years now, never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down!


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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 14:58    Post subject:
Thats what I got now saitek eclipse II, dont like it at all.
keys feel 'soft and mushy' when typing..
Its been only 6 months and my cntl and shift key have wore an ever so slight groove in the track they follow.so if I dont push directly down on them they wedge ever so slightly at an angle and wont go down without more force and a 'pop' of breaking free.
The spacebar since day one has had a cheap 'rattle and slight seesaw' action to it. Its not nice and tight feeling when paying attention it or that slapping it with a thumb.


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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 15:36    Post subject:
I want to try this one out, gonna be sweet Very Happy

https://www.leapmotion.com/
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 16:03    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
I want to try this one out, gonna be sweet Very Happy

https://www.leapmotion.com/

Oh yea, Ive seen how I write my name using a digital pen on UPS electronic sig panels...cant wait to sit back and do that type of motions at a distance...So everyone watching thinks I have no coordination at all and a slight case of Parkinson Laughing

They actually put footage of playing a FPS and flying game on its ad? That would be so terribly inaccurate I would think.


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tw1st




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 16:09    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
Thats what I got now saitek eclipse II, dont like it at all.
keys feel 'soft and mushy' when typing..
Its been only 6 months and my cntl and shift key have wore an ever so slight groove in the track they follow.so if I dont push directly down on them they wedge ever so slightly at an angle and wont go down without more force and a 'pop' of breaking free.
The spacebar since day one has had a cheap 'rattle and slight seesaw' action to it. Its not nice and tight feeling when paying attention it or that slapping it with a thumb.


That sucks man, I haven't had any issue with mine at all. I actually tried to convert to a nicer razr keyboard, but I just did not like the layout at all.... felt awkward as all hell for me. I think 'cause I've been using the Saiteks for so long, I'm so used to them it's hard for me to change it. I'm very resistant to change


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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 16:11    Post subject:
It was good the first month or so. And I can say the lighting and the actual keys themselves are done well.. I'm on here at least 12 hours a day between work and play, and none have any wear or rub off of the letters yet, or getting that 'shiny dulled' edge wear some cheap keyboards do on the edges of the keys.
Just the feel of the keys actual connection to the keyboard itself I dont like..haha


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Ci2e




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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Mar 2013 22:32    Post subject:
The leap motion looks awesome, and is quite affordable too. Too bad it's 3 months away.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Mar 2013 08:45    Post subject:
I'm curious I found the Razer Taipan which looks fairly similar, but I hear when you quickly move the mouse there is a negative acceleration effect which I think slows down your quick movements. I hear this is an undesirable effect. This effect is also built directly into the mouse and isn't customizable in the driver software included.

My question is if anyone knows is, is this something new or was this actually true with the Razer Diamondback?

I've been using the SteelSeries Sensei for a few days now and I've noticed things no one has ever mentioned in reviews. Such as you can push the middle mouse button to the right and this actually triggers the middle mouse click. If you push it to the left nothing at all happens. I think this is poor design especially for an ambidextrous mouse. If a lefty was using this mouse the middle mouse button may actually feel different to them. Then I've had times when the mouse just totally freaks out and feels like I'm moving the cursor through molasses then suddenly I'm on cotton and then back to molasses. Maybe my computer was busy thinking too hard but I don't remember these problems with the Diamondback at all.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Mar 2013 23:54    Post subject:
Ordered just this cod bro mouse mat, my old Steelseries 4HD is like sand paper to this new R.A.T 7 mouse Very Happy Ah well it protects my desk from scratches Razz Got it for 20€ with some discount coupons which was pretty good deal (35€ otherwise).

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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2013 09:26    Post subject:
Dunno, I like the feel of Imperator (my bf has it), but I'd go with logitech. Dunno, both are kinda pricey for me atm grinhurt


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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2013 11:10    Post subject:
nice nickname Pffchh
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2013 14:48    Post subject:
ivan1real wrote:
nice nickname Pffchh


Laughing

I only read what I wrote now, and I see how it sounds. To be clear this is Imperator:



Very Happy


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Ci2e




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2013 14:52    Post subject:
I hate how logo of their mice glow nonstop, put it on the bottom for all I care. So the Taipan you can turn it off in the driver software I hear.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2013 15:06    Post subject:
Sure dingo, sure.

dingo_d wrote:
Dunno, I like the feel of Imperator (my bf has it)

That is so perfect
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Mar 2013 15:23    Post subject:
Ci2e wrote:
I hate how logo of their mice glow nonstop, put it on the bottom for all I care. So the Taipan you can turn it off in the driver software I hear.


You can do that with pretty much all Razer mouse products afaik.
I got the imperator too and it's good mouse.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Mar 2013 22:41    Post subject:
Maybe with the newer mice but you couldn't in the past. I just got the Taipan and it is so different from the Sensei. The Sensei has a bunch of useful features in the drivers to help drawing perfectly straight lines but honestly don't see a need for it. The Taipan feels similar to the Diamondback but seems to have a bunch of sharp edges. Not sure which one I want to keep so far. Leaning toward Taipan but I've only been using it a few hours now.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Mar 2013 22:33    Post subject:
Might as well ask..

Are there any decent (max 100$) keyboards out there ? Razz

Used to use Logitech wave, pretty comfortable, but the receiver broke (too old model to use unifying receiver), so I am looking for a new input for a new keyboard.
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Mar 2013 23:09    Post subject:
mech guide. Wouldn't spend so much on a non-mech.

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Axeleration




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 02:24    Post subject:
@ivan1real thanks

they only sell Corsair and Logitech mechanical keyboards here. K60,K90, G710.

My question is, is K60 any good? I don't need that many macros as K90, so is it worth the investment?
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Mar 2013 03:15    Post subject:
Both are great but I believe the price difference is small so you should probably consider getting the K90 for those couple of extra features. You should also read about the switches more as they are for different type of usage.

http://www.overclock.net/t/491752/mechanical-keyboard-guide#post_6009482

Both K60 and K90 come with red switches so you should read if they suit you. Best is going to the store and testing them yourself.
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