[PS2] Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator USADVD5..
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bevve




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 19:29    Post subject: [PS2] Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator USADVD5..
when does the Dvd 5 release of wild arms: the 4th detonator ? i wanna know so much Very Happy the release was the 10 jan so pm me if anyone have knows anything.. bye
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 20:59    Post subject:
PlayStation 2 Wild Arms 4 *FULLDVD* *NTSC* (c) XSEED

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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 23:34    Post subject:
This looks to be the worst of them all. This is truly a series that have just gone worse and worse.
It's a pitty since wild arms 1 was incredible. Sad
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D_A_Kuja
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 00:09    Post subject:
in fact this looks alot better than 3, i think 3 was the worst so far.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 00:16    Post subject:
The third one sucks, the forth one was the best since the first one, i´ve played for an hour now. Music simply pwnz!


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 00:27    Post subject:
thats good then, gonna get it right away Very Happy


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 00:40    Post subject:
It's the battle system that ticks me off.
I need my battle systems to be fast as lightning, this is not. And the fact that it's a mix between a strategy system and a standard system doesn't help either, I HATE strategy battle system like in FFT, it's just so slooooooooooooooooooow.

Maybe I could put in some cheat that removes the battles and play through the story, because the rest of the game looks nice.
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yooyoo




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 04:19    Post subject: Re: [PS2] Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator USADVD5..
bevve wrote:
when does the Dvd 5 release of wild arms: the 4th detonator ?.... bye


Come on, wasn't it a full DVD 5 game? Am I wrong? Did they rip it from a DVD9? Confused
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 10:49    Post subject:
Im a bit confused! there was a release of 'wild arms alter code f' (or somesuch title) a while ago.. is this the same game? i remember the other rel had problems 30 hours or so into the game..

in other words is it worth grabbing again?? thanks
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 14:23    Post subject:
No Reg67, this is a completley new game in the series. Alter code F was just a remake of an already existing game, wild arms 1 on the psx.
So leech away. Smile

The game is not ripped either, it came on DVD5.
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 19:06    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
No Reg67, this is a completley new game in the series. Alter code F was just a remake of an already existing game, wild arms 1 on the psx.
So leech away. Smile

The game is not ripped either, it came on DVD5.


Thankyou! I was assuming it had a different name depending on which country it is released in (which is often the case with euro/amer releases)
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aladrinkelahn




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 01:03    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
This looks to be the worst of them all. This is truly a series that have just gone worse and worse.
It's a pitty since wild arms 1 was incredible. Sad


OMG, that is NOT what I wanted to hear. I totally agree about it going downhill for 2 and 3, but I was REALLY hoping they'd get 4 right again. -sigh- It's like these companies don't WANT my money or something.
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 01:41    Post subject:
Well, maybe you shuld give it ago anyway since many seem to think it's good.
Another thing that totally blows is the fact that you cant enter any buildings in towns, you are just prompted with a dialog screen and that's it. There's no excuse whatsoever to not allow the player to explore houses. It's nothing but lazyness from the developer.


Another thing. Wild arms 4 is nothing like the previous wild arms games. At times this is a platformer, and I'm not kidding. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 01:57    Post subject:
i think the game is alot better than 3, the battle system isnt as strategic as it seems, its quite fast, the cel shading graphics are pretty good, almost no jaggies with fluid 60 fps gameplay to boot.
it sucks that you cant enter buildings, i cant believe they did something like this, but its still better in 3.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 09:05    Post subject:
Played for 12 hours now, amazing game in my opinion. The Battlesystem grows the more you play it. It´s also a lot faster than any other RPG because you can hit multiple enemies within the same HEX at once. Music rocks btw!


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 09:37    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Another thing that totally blows is the fact that you cant enter any buildings in towns, you are just prompted with a dialog screen and that's it. There's no excuse whatsoever to not allow the player to explore houses. It's nothing but lazyness from the developer.


The downfall of the series? Confused
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Reg67




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 10:15    Post subject:
Actually according to this site its the same game as alter code f

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/573/573637.html

"Wild ARMs 4

Also known as: Wild ARMs: Another Code F, Wild ARMs: The 4th Detonator (JPN)"
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 13:23    Post subject:
Battles fast?
Hardly. When you at times have to use 1 turn just to move to the enemey, it becomes slow for me.

I like the gameplay outside of the battles, the jumping and platforming sequences. But the battles and the biggest issue of them all, no entering into houses is just too pathethic to make me want to put my mind into it.

Thank god for games like tales of legandia and grandia 3 that is out soon, now thats quality games. Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 13:23    Post subject:
Reg67 wrote:
Actually according to this site its the same game as alter code f

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/573/573637.html

"Wild ARMs 4

Also known as: Wild ARMs: Another Code F, Wild ARMs: The 4th Detonator (JPN)"


Another Code: F and Alter Code: F is not the same game. This one "The 4th Detonator" is the forth game in the series. Alter Code: F is a Remake of the First one on PSX. The work-in-progress name for "The 4th Detonator" was "Another Code: F" since "Alter Code: F" was just released in Japan when they announced the forth instalment.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 13:38    Post subject:
Elazul wrote:
Reg67 wrote:
Actually according to this site its the same game as alter code f

http://ps2.ign.com/objects/573/573637.html

"Wild ARMs 4

Also known as: Wild ARMs: Another Code F, Wild ARMs: The 4th Detonator (JPN)"


Another Code: F and Alter Code: F is not the same game. This one "The 4th Detonator" is the forth game in the series. Alter Code: F is a Remake of the First one on PSX. The work-in-progress name for "The 4th Detonator" was "Another Code: F" since "Alter Code: F" was just released in Japan when they announced the forth instalment.



Laughing ok but you can forgive my confusion? especially since the English vers were released so close together - plus the fact the titles are so similar
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 16:28    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:

Thank god for games like tales of legandia and grandia 3 that is out soon, now thats quality games. Wink


hi pallebrun,

what rpg games do you recommend for someone who wants to start in the genre? I have DQVIII here, leeching this Wild Arms 4 and want to get FF X somewhere....

is that a good choice? what dou you think Smile

ps. i also have a DreamCast, is Grandia and Skies of Arcadia good for rpg starters?

cheers Smile
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Elazul




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 16:33    Post subject:
Impulz wrote:
pallebrun wrote:

Thank god for games like tales of legandia and grandia 3 that is out soon, now thats quality games. Wink


hi pallebrun,

what rpg games do you recommend for someone who wants to start in the genre? I have DQVIII here, leeching this Wild Arms 4 and want to get FF X somewhere....

is that a good choice? what dou you think Smile

ps. i also have a DreamCast, is Grandia and Skies of Arcadia good for rpg starters?

cheers Smile


Dragon Quest VIII is definately not a good choice for a beginner since it´s one of the hardest and most challenging RPG:s out there. This one (WA4) and Kingdom Hearts are pretty easy introduction games to the genre. Final Fantasy X isn´t exactly easy but not too hard either. If you have played any of the other ones in the series you know what to expect. Shadow Hearts 2 is a great game too and it´s quite easy.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 17:26    Post subject:
Elazul wrote:
Impulz wrote:
pallebrun wrote:

Thank god for games like tales of legandia and grandia 3 that is out soon, now thats quality games. Wink


hi pallebrun,

what rpg games do you recommend for someone who wants to start in the genre? I have DQVIII here, leeching this Wild Arms 4 and want to get FF X somewhere....

is that a good choice? what dou you think Smile

ps. i also have a DreamCast, is Grandia and Skies of Arcadia good for rpg starters?

cheers Smile


Dragon Quest VIII is definately not a good choice for a beginner since it´s one of the hardest and most challenging RPG:s out there. This one (WA4) and Kingdom Hearts are pretty easy introduction games to the genre. Final Fantasy X isn´t exactly easy but not too hard either. If you have played any of the other ones in the series you know what to expect. Shadow Hearts 2 is a great game too and it´s quite easy.


Shadow Hearts 2 has a very unusual addition to the battle system (judgement ring), so I don't think you'd better start with that. I would say Kingdom Hearts. It's an rpg, but with real-time fighting. Otherwise Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne. Razz JK That game really is a hardcore rpg. Razz Still one of my favorite PS2 games.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 17:28    Post subject:
hehe yea, nocturne is the hardest rpg i ever played, you cant even level up the normal way like in other rpgs in that one so it gets really damn tough.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 18:20    Post subject:
LOL! Nocturne is definately nothing for beginners, they will probably break the controller in frustration, i nearly did and i´ve played almost every RPG that´s been released since SNES :/


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 18:34    Post subject:
SMT:Digital Devil Saga became very frustrating at the end too. Almost all enemies had mudo, mudoon or mamudo (death skills) and used all of them. I sometimes died like 3 times in 10 minutes or something. I've just started playing DDS2 and the story really is very good. The explaining of the junkyard was just sick.

BTW If I liked the SMT games, would I Wild Arms Altered Code F or Atelier Iris? Still have them on my pc, just have to burn it away.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 20:38    Post subject:
Slowghost wrote:
SMT:Digital Devil Saga became very frustrating at the end too. Almost all enemies had mudo, mudoon or mamudo (death skills) and used all of them. I sometimes died like 3 times in 10 minutes or something. I've just started playing DDS2 and the story really is very good. The explaining of the junkyard was just sick.

BTW If I liked the SMT games, would I Wild Arms Altered Code F or Atelier Iris? Still have them on my pc, just have to burn it away.


Both Alter Code: F and Atelier Iris are very good games, i would say play both of them since they are equally good.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 20:54    Post subject:
Impulz wrote:
pallebrun wrote:

Thank god for games like tales of legandia and grandia 3 that is out soon, now thats quality games. Wink


hi pallebrun,

what rpg games do you recommend for someone who wants to start in the genre? I have DQVIII here, leeching this Wild Arms 4 and want to get FF X somewhere....

is that a good choice? what dou you think Smile

ps. i also have a DreamCast, is Grandia and Skies of Arcadia good for rpg starters?

cheers Smile



All those are great rpg's for beginners.
FFX is not hard, it's very easy to get into with a straightforward battle system and easy gameplay. And the battle difficulty is average.
DQ8 is one of the games I consider to be the best for someone new to the genre. It's very easy on the story, it's funny, and it has very easy gameplay.
Some say that DQ8 is abit on the hard side, but I dont agree. It's basicly hard before the first boss but after that is average, and at times even below average. I actually only had problems in that game at 2 occasions, the first boss and a boss much later in the game, the rest was never close to killing me, honestly. And I wasn't over-powered either, I finished the game at level 40. But if it becomes hard just level up a few levels and it will be all good again.
Nocturne is a game that is hard regardless of what, and it's story and systems is just not good for a beginner, so stay away from that. Smile

Those DC games are brilliant too. Grandia is one of the best rpg's ever, with easily the best battle system ever, and it's also very easy to understand.

Someone else mentioned Atelier Iris, and that's also a very userfriendly rpg. Although, it's in 2d so if you're a 3d freak then it might not be for you.
You have to also like extremely lighthearted games, with a childish touch. Atelier iris has the best music ever btw.

I would suggest these games on the PS2/DC:

FF-X
DQ8
Grandia 2
SkIES of Arcadia (sorry for the miss)
Radiata Stories
Atelier Iris
YS: Ark of Napishtim (if you like action-rpg's in the style of zelda3, secret of mana etc)
Kingdom Hearts (action-rpg though)

In my opinion, any rpg that is easy to get into is a good choice.
It's when the rpg gets complex with weird battle systems and weird gameplay it gets hard and maybe frustrating for a beginner.
And whatever you do, never skip a game just because some say it's hard. You can almost always make a hard rpg easier by leveling-up, and leveling-up is the key to any rpg so it shuld be learned right away. Smile

And the games I do not advice you to get (for the reasons I mentioned earlier), untill later:

The digital saga games
Nocturne
Romancing Saga
Shadow Hearts


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 21:19    Post subject:
pallebrun: What the heck is "Sky Arcadia"? Never heard of it? Is it the same as "Skies of Arcadia" on GC and Dreamcast?


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2006 21:23    Post subject:
Corrected.
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