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|IcedFreon|




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 19:01    Post subject: New soundcard
what should i get? i run vista, and have an audigy SE currently and it sucks in vista. no im not going back to xp, if u have no input on a good soundcard for vista then stfu.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 19:03    Post subject:
ah crap, um...PM epsilon for the sound card he has. The thing is friggn nuts. Kicks Creative Labs in the nuts.

I personally got the Sound Audigy ZS 2 platnium (takes breath from long name) and sounds great but dunno how it holds up in vista.

[edit] NVM!! Found it...here ya go bud.

http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-meridian.php


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velum




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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Aug 2007 19:30    Post subject:
I have the Xmeridian and it works fine in vista and is a great card but they stopped making them. Auzentech has just released the xprelude witch is there newest card and should work fine in vista as well and it has full eax support if you care about such things. But it does not have some of the features that the meridian had yet, they are suppose to add them with a driver update.
http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-fi_prelude.php


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[Klump]




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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 02:41    Post subject:
I really don't care about a souncard. It occupies one more IRQ and I think that the boards with HD audio are very nice..so I don't guess i'll never buy a soundcard in my life Very Happy
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I bought an Hercules Game Theather XP really cheap (25 Euros), it's got an external rack, connections for everything you'll ever need and it's guite good

It's this one:
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Aug 2007 21:28    Post subject:
[Klump] wrote:
I really don't care about a souncard. It occupies one more IRQ and I think that the boards with HD audio are very nice..so I don't guess i'll never buy a soundcard in my life Very Happy
You know that ever since windows 95 IRQs get shared right? A seperate sound card can really make a difference in sound quality, but you won't notice if you use standard PC speakers.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 05:35    Post subject:
Rinze wrote:
[Klump] wrote:
I really don't care about a souncard. It occupies one more IRQ and I think that the boards with HD audio are very nice..so I don't guess i'll never buy a soundcard in my life Very Happy
You know that ever since windows 95 IRQs get shared right? A seperate sound card can really make a difference in sound quality, but you won't notice if you use standard PC speakers.


So, what are you trying to tell me is that if you have a soundcard installed in a pci slot is the same thing that if you don't have a souncard installed in your pci slot? The system will never account that specific card installed and the system will run the same as before right?
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 05:55    Post subject:
Does a tree that falls in a forest make a sound if no ones around?


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 06:12    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Does a tree that falls in a forest make a sound if no ones around?


Exactly. That's what I thought Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 06:21    Post subject:
...I only posted than in confusion


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|IcedFreon|




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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 06:32    Post subject:
im getting a new cpu too for a midrange sys im buiding form old parts. i need a socket 939 cpu. should i go 32 or 64bit. im looking at amd x2 64 4200's and up.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 06:55    Post subject:
eh 64 bit holds no purpose unless you want speed in some apps. I personally got the 939 x2 4400+ with the 1MB cache and my system still rocks any game that comes out. Except spiderman 3 lol.

There was a site that put the x2 3800 agains the FX-60 (dual core fx) and they overclocked it and the FX barely beat it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 09:45    Post subject:
Um, if you can't tell the difference in sound quality between any onboard sound chipset and a dedicated sound card then i dunno what to say.

IRQ nonsense aside, people pick up sound cards for a reason besides audio quality, which is to reduce CPU load. Going from Realtek integrated to a X-Fi was night and day, performance wise same deal, especially in Battlefield games.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 10:25    Post subject:
Hoping someone here picks up one of the new Xprelude cards and gives a bit of a review. I've been thinking about stepping up to an XFi since all audigy cards suck balls in Vista. But trying to stay away from Creative since they are greedy mofos(ex selling OpenAL support in certain games, which should be free godammit).

So yeah looking closely at this Xprelude card. Shame tho its 200 bucks(at least on the official site) since you can now get a refurbed XFi for half that.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 10:30    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Um, if you can't tell the difference in sound quality between any onboard sound chipset and a dedicated sound card then i dunno what to say.
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You can't. Mine just sends it via SPDIF to my home cinema amp. That's all it needs to do. That quality won't change if I use the onboard optical out, or £100000 one.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 14:31    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
...I only posted than in confusion


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 16:26    Post subject:
what do you guys say about SRS Audio Sandbox? I've installed it just out of curiosity, and my music sounds pretty great, especially with the headphones


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 16:27    Post subject:
For games, the X-Fi are preferred.

For audiophiles, look into the Auzentech sound cards. They have the best output, but lack the Creative EAX 3/4/5 API.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 16:51    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Um, if you can't tell the difference in sound quality between any onboard sound chipset and a dedicated sound card then i dunno what to say.

IRQ nonsense aside, people pick up sound cards for a reason besides audio quality, which is to reduce CPU load. Going from Realtek integrated to a X-Fi was night and day, performance wise same deal, especially in Battlefield games.


really? Surprised does integrated sound use a lot of cpu resources? maybe I should get a cheap card then Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 16:59    Post subject:
Not enough to justify buying a card if your doing fine without one. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 17:07    Post subject:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Not enough to justify buying a card if your doing fine without one. Very Happy


I have AMD64 3200+, 1 gb ram, 8600 GT ... pretty average I guess (cpu is probably the bottleneck), some spots in BF2 could have better frame rates ...

oh, and I was thinking about some cheap ass $20 5.1 card Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 17:15    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
KrAzY-KaMeL wrote:
Not enough to justify buying a card if your doing fine without one. Very Happy


I have AMD64 3200+, 1 gb ram, 8600 GT ... pretty average I guess (cpu is probably the bottleneck), some spots in BF2 could have better frame rates ...

oh, and I was thinking about some cheap ass $20 5.1 card Razz


I was playing unreal tournament on a sound card, switched to onboard to see how it sounded...ya...that lasted about 10 minutes.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2687624&CatId=107

It's a decent card.

I'd go for this one if anything...
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1870098&CatId=107

I use the sound audigy zs 2 platnium and love it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 17:45    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
eh 64 bit holds no purpose unless you want speed in some apps. I personally got the 939 x2 4400+ with the 1MB cache and my system still rocks any game that comes out. Except spiderman 3 lol.

There was a site that put the x2 3800 agains the FX-60 (dual core fx) and they overclocked it and the FX barely beat it.

i cant find a 4400 an up anywhere lower than 300 bucks. but the 4200 is 80 at newegg. that makes no sense.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 20:36    Post subject:
Yeah that's a decent card but I wouldn't pay that price for it. If your gonna shell out $39.99 for a "Sound Blaster 5.1" you might as well fork over a bit more money and get yourself a nice card.

I got my X-Fi Xtreme music for $65 on newegg a loooooooong time ago. And no I didn't buy it just to enable the "Ultra" sound quality setting in BF2 (Although it did make a quite a difference)

I got it because I have a uber elite pwnzor speaker set up and the Realtek onboard audio was not doing it justice. Even without the Crystalizer enabled in the Creative control panel the difference was significant between the onboard and dedicated sound. But then again it's all subjective, some people are audiophiles, while others can't tell the difference between a cow chirping and a bird moo'ing.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 20:53    Post subject:
I only have a 2.1 speaker set up and that ain't changing anytime soon ...


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th Aug 2007 21:07    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
I only have a 2.1 speaker set up and that ain't changing anytime soon ...


Stick with what you have then! Smile

It's still said that 2.1 is the best format for Audio, and if you don't blast your speakers when playing a game that supports 5.1 then there's no reason to go about spending $$$.
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