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TheTerminator
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 00:03    Post subject: [XBOX360] Banning has started again
http://www.digital-forums.com/showthread.php?t=395531
http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?t=131456
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Illumina




Posts: 148
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 00:16    Post subject:
fine here so far. I played GoW2 the day it was released online, however, I haven't played any of the seed4me releases or any of the non-retail copies. Should be interesting to see how this turns out.
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SuTuRa




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Location: NFOHump
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 00:46    Post subject:
Muthafuckers!!! Smile
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Mutantius
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Posts: 18594
Location: In Elektro looking for beans
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 00:49    Post subject:
Fine here aswell Very Happy and played Seed4Me releases

"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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TheTerminator
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Posts: 61
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 01:18    Post subject:
well i aint banned as im getting

Z: 0000 - 0000.
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towerblocks




Posts: 151
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 01:23    Post subject:
Not banned here yet, Looks like cleaning out the pirates before the dash update.
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Munkeee




Posts: 1131
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 01:26    Post subject:
playing online the now , wonder if when I reconnect will I be Banned Very Happy

done a quick sign out / sign in and connected , will check again in the morning

sabin1981 wrote:
but you know what Chinese whispers are like; some newbie will read your comment and suddenly run and spread it all over the internet that the new 2010 Banwave disables all your XBLA games when you're banned.

Ironic Statement #4756 from sabin


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GeorgeIvanovich




Posts: 361
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 01:43    Post subject:
fuck off ms i dont gonna buy another crap, this is the last
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killabyte




Posts: 1185
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 01:56    Post subject:
haven't played any copies online but played gow2 and fallout 3 on the same day they were leaked, unlocking achievements on both. use the same profile to play on and offline, also keep my date and time correct and just checked but no ban.
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kryon




Posts: 1345
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 07:46    Post subject:
I wish they would ban me...just to know the feeling.

Interinactive wrote:
Achievement unlocked: More unoptimised than a Ubishit game


No worries. The Division is just around the corner. Devil Troll
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deelix
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Posts: 32062
Location: Norway
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 07:48    Post subject:
kryon wrote:
I wish they would ban me...just to know the feeling.
lol, would suck after that tho
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Mantra2k




Posts: 124
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 08:18    Post subject:
Well, i'm safe.

Do they normally ban in one go or over a few days?
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xboxrippin




Posts: 229
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 08:20    Post subject:
NXE update and I am not banned on live lol Smile
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TheTerminator
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Posts: 61
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 08:34    Post subject:
If you get banned can you still sync the time on your xbox using the LAN.
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Mr_Baggins




Posts: 1426
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 10:50    Post subject:
Whatever, got the xbox360 for a few months and did not even bother to connect it to the internet Smile Fuck live, if you have to PAY for it. Anyway, what's the business - Microshit still earns money from live, banning people is shooting Microshit's own foot.

11th "Thou shalt not flash"
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Gizzie




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Location: in a nice and wet pussy :)
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 10:59    Post subject:
still safe atm !

empty...
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me7




Posts: 3936
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 11:12    Post subject:
Mr_Baggins wrote:
Whatever, got the xbox360 for a few months and did not even bother to connect it to the internet Smile Fuck live, if you have to PAY for it. Anyway, what's the business - Microshit still earns money from live, banning people is shooting Microshit's own foot.


They earn more money when you pay for live AND buy games to not get banned Wink
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madmax17




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Location: Croatia
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 11:14    Post subject:
Only stupid kids that play games before they are released and that aren't stealth patched but play live are banned, if you follow a few simple rules you'll never get hammered.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 12:23    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
Fine here aswell Very Happy and played Seed4Me releases
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Masterflat




Posts: 418
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 13:19    Post subject:
lil quote here:
Quote:
[10:06:20] <c4eva> xblive log uploaded, all looks good, no changes to disc checks!

http://www.xbins.org/xblive/?view=2008-11-11

seems like bad rips / early rlses bannings ...

fingers crossed i´m not banned .. still @work Sad
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Oddmaker
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 13:48    Post subject:
SO many people getting banned over at xboxscene.com forums!

Quote:
Yes, there have been some bans, as I'm sure you're all aware. The usual procedure has taken place, and live logs have been created. What this means is c4eva has recorded the information which travels between Xbox Live and your Xbox 360's DVD drive. This tells us which checks Microsoft have been performing.

The live logs have now been uploaded, for anybody who would like to see them:


Quote:
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
3B 30 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
5A 00 3B 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
5A 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
3B 30 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
5A 00 3B 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 06 68 00 C0 Read DVD Structure/SS
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 0E 1D A4 49 23
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 E0 6E E5 96 2E
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 78 1E AC 29 EE
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 C9 EA D9 F3 8A
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 4C 71 C5 A0 B6
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 E2 4C C9 78 E0
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
5A 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 18 00 00 Read PFI
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
3B 30 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
5A 00 3B 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
AD 00 FF 02 FD FF FE 00 06 68 00 C0 Read DVD Structure/SS
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 95 CE 92 B2 00
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 36 1D 3B 38 17
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 27 6C 07 F8 78
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 C9 EA D9 F3 8A
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 1B 0D B9 64 76
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
55 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00 Challenge/Response
3E 20 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77 77
3E 20 00 01 00 E1 03 E2 1B C9 27 36
5A 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 2A 00 00 00
5A 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
55 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00
20 0A 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
12 00 00 00 24 C0 00 00 00 00 00 00 Inquiry
25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Check Capacity
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 80 00 00 00 Read DMI
AD 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 Read PFI

Now I'm sure most people won't understand the above, but c4eva has confirmed that there are no changes in the checks performed by MS. This has left most people speculating that the reason people are being banned is for playing bad ISO files, specifically the Seed4Me review copies.

So what to do now? Well I would reccommend playing only original retail games, or games which you know are 100% verified and stealthed - as always. But be extremely careful. Anyone who is reading this, and has been banned, please post either here or in TheGRiM's thread, which games you have been playing recently, specifically seed4me releases.
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manu_xl




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 14:39    Post subject:
they all used the NXE dash before official release Wink j/k

i'm still ok, crossing my fingers though (elite/ ixtreme 1.41 - 12x)
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garus
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 16:02    Post subject:
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TiHKAL




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 16:50    Post subject:
A question to those who have not been banned.

Do you guys only play games from your region or do you play region free games on live?

PC: i7-4790k @ 4.4, 32GB @ 2400, Nvidia 1080TI FE, 2 TB Crucial MX500 SSD
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Xenthalon




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Location: Germany
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 17:51    Post subject:
Just checked, haven't been banned yet. I think my GH4 is NTSC, rest was mainly PAL. I also wasn't connected to Live while playing any games like GoW2, Fo3 or Fable2... lets hope I won't get banned any time soon, I really need Live for RB/GH song downloads and awesome live games like Castle Crashers.
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GeorgeIvanovich




Posts: 361
PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 18:58    Post subject:
garus wrote:
I use dash, but I disconnected ethernet cable before installing NXE so they've never seen new update in my box Wink


Maybe they can see that next time you go on live Wink
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Foghorn Leghorn




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 21:37    Post subject:
Doesn't seem to matter whether you are connected to live or not with backup games. I never had my xbox connected when playing backups. Only ever played online (or even had discs in console) that were originals and I still got banned.

My theory (based entirely upon guesswork) is that provided you have never taken your console online prior to its being flashed you seem to be okay. Something to do with MS detecting a difference on your console pre and post flashing.

Also provided your games are properly stealthed retail versions you should be okay. I know one guy who plays every new game on live even before their official release dates and he has never been banned, BUT his console has been flashed from purchase and as such never on live before it was flashed. Could be coincidence but maybe not...
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garus
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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 21:53    Post subject:
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Foghorn Leghorn




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 21:59    Post subject:
garus wrote:
Mine was also flashed before going live. I did this the same day I bought xbox Very Happy


I presume you are still not banned then?
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 22:05    Post subject:
You better ask who is banned, 90% of us are not banned.
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