[XBOX360] Fight Night Round 4
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Mr_Baggins




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 22:18    Post subject:
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2 hours to get on my hard drive Razz , tonight im gonna bite the ear out of tyson !!!

its easy just ddo what i do , ignore button in some users.


Thanks for the tip with that ignore button. Too bad it did not remove the moron permanently.


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s-b-l
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 22:32    Post subject:
Baggins , ssij mi pale cwelu

so anyone played it ? coz ppl says it has shitty controls


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 22:37    Post subject:
s-b-l wrote:
Baggins , ssij mi pale cwelu

so anyone played it ? coz ppl says it has shitty controls


Only people claiming it has shitty controls are the people who always used the buttons instead of the analog sticks to punch. As for me, I have always used the analog sticks so it feels about the same as the others to me.
This iteration did away completely the option to use buttons for punches. Thus, the bitching and claims of shitty controls.


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 22:39    Post subject:
Shit, this ignore button doesn't work if someone quotes...


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s-b-l
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 22:44    Post subject:
Big_Gun wrote:
s-b-l wrote:
Baggins , ssij mi pale cwelu

so anyone played it ? coz ppl says it has shitty controls


Only people claiming it has shitty controls are the people who always used the buttons instead of the analog sticks to punch. As for me, I have always used the analog sticks so it feels about the same as the others to me.
This iteration did away completely the option to use buttons for punches. Thus, the bitching and claims of shitty controls.


didn't know that Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 23:32    Post subject:
mines showing unverified on stealth with abgx


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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Jun 2009 23:48    Post subject:
I'm still on the old firmware and been using ppf-o-matic3 to make the new wave3 work. I cant even get this to run it's worked fine on all other games Sad


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DaGonZo




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 00:13    Post subject:
Also on old fw ppf fix worked for me i just booted it
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 00:49    Post subject:
Based on the PS3 demo I don't think they are shitty controls but the fact you can no longer fake a shot and the way it can sometimes get 'stuck' with you stood there like a fool because you didn't gesture in precisely the right way (somewhat negating the analogue'ness of it all) makes you wonder. I do think it's better than previous games, and a lot more fluid & fast (with analogue sticks) but sometimes you can end up punching in the wrong direction or with the wrong type of punch because of the way it works - and for the record I don't 'suck' and I always used analogue right through the entire series. The new blocking system is a lot more fair and less gamey, but it seems quite easy (in the heat of battle) for it to misinterpret a block for a punch which is annoying.

...all that said it's the best boxing game, and I can't wait for my copy.
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the_legend2k7




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 02:50    Post subject:
Color me stupid, but first time playing this series, so I've got a few questions.

So how do I do stronger punches? Sure, I can wail on a guy for 5-6 rounds, never knocking him out once, but that does little overall. I'd love to knock someone on their ass. My first two fights, I managed to knock guys down a few times, but since then...nothing. Any pointers would be appreciated.

Oops, guess that's only one question. Thanks!
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speedgear




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 03:07    Post subject:
well . you have to press RB button while trowing the punch , the game its fun , but...... damm ea , why didnt they make the option to use the buttons to trow punches. it will be a lot easier, ive created a boxer , fought 18 matches , lost 4 by now .


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 03:27    Post subject:
Cause they want multiplayer to be about skill, not button mashing.
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speedgear




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 03:35    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Cause they want multiplayer to be about skill, not button mashing.


well they could stick multiplayer up their asses, aint buyin the original!!!
another thing the carrer mode looks a litle empty , hummm that was all the point of playin this game , still havin fun .


this guy in a forum have a point "It's their life's mission to defend the game tooth and nail and they make points like "buttons are unrealistic" which is totally unfounded and makes no sense. Tell me....how is flicking a stick more realistic than pushing a button?"
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poisonousj




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 06:01    Post subject:
anyone use a camera to create a custom guy? mine looks just like me (except for the super big muscles!) but it still looks like a video game character, not like a character model with a photo of my face slapped on it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 06:48    Post subject:
poisonousj wrote:
anyone use a camera to create a custom guy? mine looks just like me (except for the super big muscles!) but it still looks like a video game character, not like a character model with a photo of my face slapped on it.


Yes. It turned out pretty cool.


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jippyuk




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 08:38    Post subject:
did your iso file all verify fine with abgx, just interested to know

Quote:
\ccclx-fnr4.iso"
Size: 7838695424 bytes (SplitVid 3rd wave)
Files in ISO: 63, Folders in ISO: 19
Total bytes used: 4479852378 (61.38%)
Game appears to have random padding

Checking default.xex
Original PE Filename: fnbzf.exe
Original PE Timestamp: 2009/05/23 10:19:03
Game Name: Fight Night Round 4
Developer: EA Canada
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Genre: Sports Boxing
Achievements: 33 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore
XEX CRC = AFD05481
XEX Media ID: CE91AE2F2C221D4912ADE385-4F71DF30

Region Code: 0xFFFFFFFF
Region Free!

Checking SS
Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/05/26 00:00:00
Timestamp of Mastering: 2009/06/10 18:11:51
SS CRC = CDACC8A9 (RawSS = 99F77473)
SS Media ID: CE91AE2F2C221D4912ADE385-4F71DF30 (matches game)
SS looks valid

Checking DMI
Timestamp of Authoring: 2009/05/26 00:00:00 (matches SS)
DMI CRC = 72CC1784
DMI Media ID: CE91AE2F2C221D4912ADE385-4F71DF30 (matches game)
DMI looks valid

Checking PFI
PFI CRC = 2A4CCBD3
PFI matches known data (3rd wave - requires iXtreme v1.51 or later)

Video partition found
Video CRC = 0E58FB9D (V0 = CF942E7B, V1 = 4809B37A)
Video partition matches known data (3rd wave - requires iXtreme v1.51 or later)

Stealth check passed!

Starting Verification
Looking for CDACC8A9AFD05481.ini in the online verified database
There is no verified rip of this Xex/SS combination in the online database
Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex/SS combination
Verification failed

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grimmmy




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 12:35    Post subject:
I got the same result as above. For now, I'm avoiding live.

the_legend2k7 wrote:

So how do I do stronger punches? Sure, I can wail on a guy for 5-6 rounds, never knocking him out once, but that does little overall. I'd love to knock someone on their ass. My first two fights, I managed to knock guys down a few times, but since then...nothing. Any pointers would be appreciated.


Personally, I never throw haymakers (rb) but it kinda depends on how you box.

I find the easiest way is to either counter punch (block just before the other person hits you then throw a punch back) or by weaving out the way and throwing a punch back.

Both do massive damage if they connect cleanly.

Also, work on the body as it drains their stamina and makes a) their punches weaker and b) harder for them to get up.

I've played the amateur bit this morning. Got 3 KO's and win decision.
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jippyuk




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 12:45    Post subject:
Is a fantastic game, spent god knows how long making characters for both me and my mate and then slugged it out in a few late night matches.
He always used to wail on me with FN3 because he could use the standard button punches but last night it was the contrary as I was used to playing with the stick on FN3 too.

Working on the body really takes the stamina out of them for their return punches, and a few counter punches after a succesfu block from theirl hard punch can wreak havoc on them.
Many a time I managed to turn the fight from being dicked on in the first minute to suddenly coming back stunning the other guy having him bounce off the ropes and fall to the floor flat.

Hilariously rewarding. Closing comments last night from my friend was "I dont like the controls, I cant do anything I want"

L2P innit Smile
I just lapped up the undefeated status for the night hehehe


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Langlest




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 13:05    Post subject:
i hate how you cant use the sliders to make a boxer in this unless you have uploaded a photo first
if tiger woods can let you make someone with only sliders then why cant this game?
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 13:05    Post subject:
It's just a shame that people like my dad can no longer play the game because gesture recognition (as opposed to analogue control Wink) can be confusing and cumbersome in a fast paced game. I like it regardless and have always used it myself, but it is a barrier for other people from all different walks of life - and a simple on/off switch and the ability to filter matches online would have avoided this problem.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 14:02    Post subject:
tbh, I think people can adapt to the controls very quickly. Remember when Skate came out and everyone moaned. I personally couldn't use anything else now, it would seem wrong and inaccurate. Same applies to this game imo.

Xbox.com have posted some tips on their website for those struggling for knockouts. For experienced FN players there's not too much there but its worth a read regardless.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 14:07    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
It's just a shame that people like my dad can no longer play the game because gesture recognition (as opposed to analogue control Wink) can be confusing and cumbersome in a fast paced game. I like it regardless and have always used it myself, but it is a barrier for other people from all different walks of life - and a simple on/off switch and the ability to filter matches online would have avoided this problem.


Ive always said I had no problems with them allowing people to play with the buttons. But, i do like your idea of setting up matches to allow for buttons or not. OR, they could have made the use of buttons optional in NON RANKED multiplayer games. Something along thsoe lines but I think totally gimping the button controls was a mistake. People should be able to play how they want. . . especially in single player or local multiplayer at least.


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dick8843




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 15:33    Post subject:
This games sucks guys i have to say i prefer Round 3 alot more
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 15:44    Post subject:
dick8843 wrote:
This games sucks guys i have to say i prefer Round 3 alot more


If you cant play with the sticks, it will definitely be an initial (and perhaps permanent) turn off.
But, since I am very used to playing with sticks... there's no way this game is not head and shoulders above Fight Night Round 3. The AI is LEAPS above FNR3. Customization is FAR FAR better. Online world championships is pretty dambned cool.
I like the new blocking and punching schemes because it is MUCH easier to move while bobbing and weaving at the same time than it was in FNR3.
The new physics is really great which allows for true infighting and glancing blows. The damage system to the face is much better.
The punching mechanic overall is just much better. My punches thrown totals much more closely resemble true to life numbers rather than the 800 punches/round you would see in FNR3.
Improved Legacy Mode.
Many more boxers. Downloadable boxers seamlessly through the network.

Your issue has to be control related. Surely.
You can always try Punchout for the wii.


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 15:47    Post subject:
Only thing i am having trouble with are the training games. But, thats only because they are different.
I am sure I will get the hang of those just like i did in previous games.


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DaGonZo




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 16:06    Post subject:
Hehe yeah the training games is the hardest thing in the game Very Happy Have to auto train halve of em or i only get +1 stats Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 16:16    Post subject:
DaGonZo wrote:
Hehe yeah the training games is the hardest thing in the game Very Happy Have to auto train halve of em or i only get +1 stats Sad


Ditto for me.
But, I find myself going through with playing them. How else am i going to get any good at them? LoL.

We should just be able to practice at training. lol.


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grimmmy




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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 16:40    Post subject:
can you have multiple fighters at the same time (i.e. not within the same careers but essentially have 2 careers on the HDD)?

I kinda want to make a me (featherweight) but also play with the heavyweights.
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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 16:52    Post subject:
I am glad EA decided to go hardcore with this game. I hated the analog controls in the first one and only reason I bothered with the game was the button mashing and the graphics. Now they have taken out one reason, not gonna waste a disk or my time on this one. I see a lot of complaining on the EA forums about the lack of button controls, so I dont know if EA made a wise choice here. Back to Punchout for me and my friends!!!


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PostPosted: Wed, 24th Jun 2009 17:32    Post subject:
chakdeindya wrote:
I see a lot of complaining on the EA forums about the lack of button controls, so I dont know if EA made a wise choice here. Back to Punchout for me and my friends!!!


Depends on how many copies they sold of it. And, I am guessing it is quite a few.
Of course your going to see a lot of whinning... the people happy with the game are busy playing.

Punchout is fun. But, it's no Fight Night.
It's like comparing an old nintendo football game to Madden 2009 or something. it isn't even in the same league.

I can clearly see why people who enjoy Punchout over Fight Night would be disappointed with the controls in Fight Night.


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