[XBOX360] Forza Motorsport 3
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atf300




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 20:28    Post subject:
i quite like the ms wheel , it isnt perfect but it still works nicely and it wasn't that much euro 2 years ago
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Sep 2009 23:12    Post subject:
Wow.

This is a first day purchase for me. Kudos Turn10 and Microsoft. Hit this one out of the park. Phenominal, I don't know what else to say.


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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Sep 2009 23:47    Post subject:
seriously, I am missing something here. How is this any better than NFS Shift. I can't tell a great deal of difference in the handling, in fact the car feels a bit 'floaty' if anything and the Graphics are fugly especially the scenery textures.

at least it doesn't seem slow, like Forza 2 and the framerate looks high.

pass for me I think....


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 00:19    Post subject:
dirtymurt wrote:
seriously, I am missing something here. How is this any better than NFS Shift. I can't tell a great deal of difference in the handling, in fact the car feels a bit 'floaty' if anything and the Graphics are fugly especially the scenery textures.

at least it doesn't seem slow, like Forza 2 and the framerate looks high.

pass for me I think....


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 00:56    Post subject:
jimmy2x2x wrote:
dirtymurt wrote:
seriously, I am missing something here. How is this any better than NFS Shift. I can't tell a great deal of difference in the handling, in fact the car feels a bit 'floaty' if anything and the Graphics are fugly especially the scenery textures.

at least it doesn't seem slow, like Forza 2 and the framerate looks high.

pass for me I think....


Are you in the right thread?


I think he's kinda right. The cars look beautiful in menus but in-game they're full of jaggies,
The damage system isn't that great..heck dirt2 or grid have a better damage system.
and ramming into other cars feels like hitting a truck.

Hoping the full game looks and plays better.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 01:05    Post subject:
zibz wrote:
jimmy2x2x wrote:
dirtymurt wrote:
seriously, I am missing something here. How is this any better than NFS Shift. I can't tell a great deal of difference in the handling, in fact the car feels a bit 'floaty' if anything and the Graphics are fugly especially the scenery textures.

at least it doesn't seem slow, like Forza 2 and the framerate looks high.

pass for me I think....


Are you in the right thread?


I think he's kinda right. The cars look beautiful in menus but in-game they're full of jaggies,
The damage system isn't that great..heck dirt2 or grid have a better damage system.
and ramming into other cars feels like hitting a truck.

Hoping the full game looks and plays better.

I think he's completely wrong. Cars look great in menus and in game. Scenery looks great, unlike Shift (stop and look at a building in city track and you'll see what i mean).
Bottom line is he's comparing 1 track, possibly early build demo to a full version of Shift.

And regarding damage, this game is not about damage. It's about as little contact as possible, heck, If I hit other cars in games like this I feel ashamed and want to start track over. So damage in Forza3 does its job fine. Or do you want damage like in Shift, where other cars fly in the sky when you hit them?

So yeah, wait for full version, play some of amazing tracks in some of amazing vehicles that Forza3 will have, and then you can judge.


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 04:15    Post subject:
And so can you Glottis Smile

I Have to admit i was disappointed too but let's wait for the final...
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 08:23    Post subject:
If anyone prefers Shift to FM3, it can't be because of the handling. 'Cause Shift does a piss poor job of "simulating" car racing. It's utterly terrible to be honest.

Forza 3 on the other hand does a fine job in actaully providing you with a somewhat realistic driving experience. And if that's not what you're after and you only want pretty graphics and a "cool" menu, the sure, go play Shift.


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 08:59    Post subject:
only real life like racings games I have played are Richard Burns Rally and rFactor with various mods (I assume that LFS is in the same category, but have not played them)

Forza, Shift, Drift etc. compared to those games are pure arcades...


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 11:28    Post subject:
Only a person who have driven the exact same cars on a track can really know how close it is to real life. And I have a feeling very few games are...
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 11:38    Post subject:
whited wrote:
only real life like racings games I have played are Richard Burns Rally and rFactor with various mods (I assume that LFS is in the same category, but have not played them)

Forza, Shift, Drift etc. compared to those games are pure arcades...


RBR and rFactor are indeed even better representations of real life racing - but Shift shouldn't even be compared to FM3/GT5/RBR/rFactor/whatever.

Forza 2/3 may not be hardcore simulators, but compared to Shift, Grid, Dirt etc, they are pretty goddamn realistic.


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 11:54    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Only a person who have driven the exact same cars on a track can really know how close it is to real life. And I have a feeling very few games are...

Well, it's a small world because there are plenty of professional and amateur racers who drive these simulators and attest to much of their realism. Some games are better than others though, naturally.

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Shift shouldn't even be compared to FM3/GT5/RBR/rFactor/whatever

It should, they wanted it to be. In the run up to its release that was all we were hearing; how underneath the hood it was a true simulation and that all the user accessibility crap the EA representative was talking about was purely optional. Who knew it would be the EA shill and not the ex-GTR developers that spoke the truth!

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Forza, Shift, Drift etc.

I like the slip of the tongue there Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 11:57    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:

Well, it's a small world because there are plenty of professional and amateur racers who drive these simulators and attest to much of their realism.
Yeah, shift is one of them
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 12:11    Post subject:
wow, very nice Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 12:17    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Ispep wrote:

Well, it's a small world because there are plenty of professional and amateur racers who drive these simulators and attest to much of their realism.
Yeah, shift is one of them

Yeah, well I'm talking about people who play them for fun, not on request for a lump sum of money Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 12:52    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Only a person who have driven the exact same cars on a track can really know how close it is to real life. And I have a feeling very few games are...

if you have driven car with more than 200hp and +- average dynamics, you get very good feeling about whether game is bullshit or not, no matter what car you drive in game
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 13:03    Post subject:
whited wrote:
deelix wrote:
Only a person who have driven the exact same cars on a track can really know how close it is to real life. And I have a feeling very few games are...

if you have driven car with more than 200hp and +- average dynamics, you get very good feeling about whether game is bullshit or not, no matter what car you drive in game
depends how you drive I guess. I think you have to push your car to the limits as you do in the game. My car got 110hp btw Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 14:38    Post subject:
More precision madness from Team Blackjack...

Linkage

Amazing bit at about 1:50, must have taken a lot of practice.


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 14:50    Post subject:
games cant compare to real life, the best sims for pc is r-factor in my opinion , for xbox360 is forza 2 in the futture forza 3 , and ps3 will be gran turismo , , of course i play all my drivin games with steering wheel ,but force feedback give you an ideia of the handling in real life , but still cant feel the g´s..
now some people talk bullshit about nfs , omg , thats an arcade game , even with all the help off, the cars dont feel real. makin a corners totally unreal, but still a fun arcade ride. deelix your car have 110hp , mine have 80hp , still i have more fun playin with him , that drivin in video games

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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 15:36    Post subject:
dirtymurt wrote:
seriously, I am missing something here. How is this any better than NFS Shift. I can't tell a great deal of difference in the handling, in fact the car feels a bit 'floaty' if anything and the Graphics are fugly especially the scenery textures.

at least it doesn't seem slow, like Forza 2 and the framerate looks high.

pass for me I think....


+1

Even on the highest level of realism this just feels too arcadey for me..

pass for me also after playing the demo

arcadey is that a word Razz


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 16:12    Post subject:
Those calling Forza arcadey with all assists off, I really don't think you people have ever driven a car... yet alone a car near or past its limits... Forza 3 feels much more natural then Forza 2 did and I cannot wait.

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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 18:08    Post subject:
speedgear wrote:
for xbox360 is forza 2
Actually I think its Race
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 18:11    Post subject:
SniperKilla wrote:
Those calling Forza arcadey with all assists off
...just harder than IRL... iv driven fast around corners. If you have good tires you shouldn't have any problems taking a slack corner in 120-130kmh.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 18:51    Post subject:
The cockpit view is VERY static.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 18:53    Post subject:
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The cockpit view is VERY static.

Nope, it's great. I'm getting sick of Shift's gimmicky shaky cockpit, it's cool in videos, but after driving 5 laps of Nordschleife it becomes unbearable.


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 18:55    Post subject:
I didn´t think so much of the shakiness as much as how the driver sits completely still and stares straight forward even while driving fast in sharpest turns.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 19:10    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
If anyone prefers Shift to FM3, it can't be because of the handling. 'Cause Shift does a piss poor job of "simulating" car racing. It's utterly terrible to be honest.

Forza 3 on the other hand does a fine job in actaully providing you with a somewhat realistic driving experience. And if that's not what you're after and you only want pretty graphics and a "cool" menu, the sure, go play Shift.


someone thinks Shift is realistic coz it provides "sense of speed" and "realistic sounds" (the fact my Evo sound is perfect replicated raises the judge over every possible rating, LOL) ...
tnx for sharing common sense Laughing

i dont even like Shift menus, this time theyre not even that cool.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 19:31    Post subject:
I hate to say it but GT5 is going to OWN This game in graphics and gameplay.
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Sep 2009 19:39    Post subject:
digitalman42 wrote:
I hate to say it but GT5 is going to OWN This game in graphics and gameplay.


We should talk about this when GT5 comes to EU and US somewhere in 2011 Laughing
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