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Posted: Wed, 10th Sep 2008 22:43 Post subject: |
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Won't be getting much out of it in HD anyway. Shield is filmed using the gritty style and look that HD won't help at all. I watched last week's episode on FXHD and saw no improvement.
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7x02 eng subs, for those who want.
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Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2008 22:14 Post subject: |
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The.Shield.S07E12.Possible.Kill.Screen.PDTV.XviD-FQM
This episode was great! Really liked it
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 12:48 Post subject: |
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The ending really struck me...
Spoiler: | Mackey confessing his sins to Olivia was really a major blow - i didn't think of him as a total degenerate criminal and asshole but he is really a prick |
In my opinion this show is the best around right now...along with Sons Of Anarchy and Californication.
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 12:51 Post subject: |
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Hmm, you don't like the new Dexter season?
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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2008 13:41 Post subject: |
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Shit, forgot Dexter! That's also definitely a great show!
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Yeah, we tend to like Vic Mackey, but after hearing him talking about all he has done it makes you feel that he really is a prick.
Loved that scene
EDIT: Iยดm going to try Sons Of Anarchy. I wanted to watch a new show
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Really unsatisfying and undisclosing ending.
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Parallax_ wrote: | Really unsatisfying and undisclosing ending. |
Not really.
Best way it could end imo.
Anything else would've been unrealistic or over the top.
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wawrzul: Not yet, but I'm very busy these days. Will see if I can squeeze in time for one episode tho 
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Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 09:49 Post subject: |
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Wow. Just wow. My all time favorite TV show. Without even a close comparison. And it ended in the perfect way.
The good guys aren't always good, the baddest guys don't always get caught and you can never trust what you believe.
Spoiler: | I like to think of Vic stewing away in that purgatory with nothing else in his life, sinking deeper and deeper into a bottle until one day he walks off and goes to jail or can't face that prospect and eats his gun.
Its a fitting ending for him to be stuck there, but 3 years is not a shade on what he deserves. But the spirit of the show is he'll do his 3 years and go into a security job and get his hands dirty again and keep shadng out of going down.
He's always only been a level above the scum he deals with. He started out with the right reasons but they just allowed him to slowly release his true self and bury his conscience. I think the last 2 or 3 series as slowly eroded away all he had left to identify with and like. It's dragged him down so he can be despised and so we'll want him out of our lives. Let the bastard rot. Selling out Ronnie was the final scrap of his goodness being stripped away. We must leave, nothing left to like or sympathise with, he's now with the pondlife he's bent all the rules to bust.
Ronnie, well, I think he got what he deserved. He was often up there with Vic directing the violence, and never far behind him. And other than his strike team buddies he had no consideration for anyone else. He was never doing the wrong things for the right reasons, he was always doing them because he could, he left moralising and self justification to the others.
Absolute shocker with Shane but. I didn't see that coming. Harrowing. Same as the Shields always been. Shane's always blunderred from error to error since meeting Vic and he finally pushed him into the ultimate act of selfish evil doing possible whilst believing it was the right thing.
I never really liked Shane. I always thought he was too willing to be dragged down with few redeeming features. But despite what he did I think he always had an underlying simpleness and even a little naivety. I didn't think he was ever a truly bad person, and in the end he was fighting for his family not himself. In his belief system willing to forgoe his family and go downstairs to the fiery place to make sure they both go ustairs together, never parted.
Very wrong, but Shane all over. Doing very wrong things for the right reasons. But far too wrong for his reasons to make up for it.
And as for open endings....well....it's a cop station. We're watching the station from outside, it doesn't stop because we stop to view. It all carries on inside and it would make no sense if all ends were tied up neat. None at all.
Still thinking about it, still a little upset. Almost feel grief over the end of the characters and the end of the show. Especially Shane, the one I never liked but who in the end proved to be the least selfish of them all. Just in a really screwed up way. |
Mighty powerful storytelling, and I think I must get the DVD's to watch them all again.
It's a pity he's not making another deep show. The Unit is OK, but it's not a patch on The Shield. And I don't think it's really meant to be, it's light entertainment. Perhaps he doesn't find it any easier to live with his characters than we do?
There will never be another show quite like it.
If you haven't watched The Shield go out now and download series 1. Start from the begginning and go all the way through. You life will be sucked up for a while but it's worth it and the only way to get the best out of The Shield.
If you've watched part of series 4 or some such and didn't quite get into it try again. Unless you get the character development it really doesn't impact you as it should.
There's been episodes all through, not just the finale, where hours afterwards you're still questioning what you believe and juggling your moral values.
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deelix wrote: | Hmm, you don't like the new Dexter season? |
Dexter's fantastic, Spoiler: | but I think the whole pregnant fiance / best friend storyline is weakening his character. It's almost like they've softenned him to appeal to a wider audience. Fortunately the best friend looks like he's abouit to be wrapped in cellophane  |
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Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 10:25 Post subject: |
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EwarWoo1 wrote: | Wow. Just wow. My all time favorite TV show. Without even a close comparison. And it ended in the perfect way.
The good guys aren't always good, the baddest guys don't always get caught and you can never trust what you believe.
Spoiler: | I like to think of Vic stewing away in that purgatory with nothing else in his life, sinking deeper and deeper into a bottle until one day he walks off and goes to jail or can't face that prospect and eats his gun.
Its a fitting ending for him to be stuck there, but 3 years is not a shade on what he deserves. But the spirit of the show is he'll do his 3 years and go into a security job and get his hands dirty again and keep shadng out of going down.
He's always only been a level above the scum he deals with. He started out with the right reasons but they just allowed him to slowly release his true self and bury his conscience. I think the last 2 or 3 series as slowly eroded away all he had left to identify with and like. It's dragged him down so he can be despised and so we'll want him out of our lives. Let the bastard rot. Selling out Ronnie was the final scrap of his goodness being stripped away. We must leave, nothing left to like or sympathise with, he's now with the pondlife he's bent all the rules to bust.
Ronnie, well, I think he got what he deserved. He was often up there with Vic directing the violence, and never far behind him. And other than his strike team buddies he had no consideration for anyone else. He was never doing the wrong things for the right reasons, he was always doing them because he could, he left moralising and self justification to the others.
Absolute shocker with Shane but. I didn't see that coming. Harrowing. Same as the Shields always been. Shane's always blunderred from error to error since meeting Vic and he finally pushed him into the ultimate act of selfish evil doing possible whilst believing it was the right thing.
I never really liked Shane. I always thought he was too willing to be dragged down with few redeeming features. But despite what he did I think he always had an underlying simpleness and even a little naivety. I didn't think he was ever a truly bad person, and in the end he was fighting for his family not himself. In his belief system willing to forgoe his family and go downstairs to the fiery place to make sure they both go ustairs together, never parted.
Very wrong, but Shane all over. Doing very wrong things for the right reasons. But far too wrong for his reasons to make up for it.
And as for open endings....well....it's a cop station. We're watching the station from outside, it doesn't stop because we stop to view. It all carries on inside and it would make no sense if all ends were tied up neat. None at all.
Still thinking about it, still a little upset. Almost feel grief over the end of the characters and the end of the show. Especially Shane, the one I never liked but who in the end proved to be the least selfish of them all. Just in a really screwed up way. |
Mighty powerful storytelling, and I think I must get the DVD's to watch them all again.
It's a pity he's not making another deep show. The Unit is OK, but it's not a patch on The Shield. And I don't think it's really meant to be, it's light entertainment. Perhaps he doesn't find it any easier to live with his characters than we do?
There will never be another show quite like it.
If you haven't watched The Shield go out now and download series 1. Start from the begginning and go all the way through. You life will be sucked up for a while but it's worth it and the only way to get the best out of The Shield.
If you've watched part of series 4 or some such and didn't quite get into it try again. Unless you get the character development it really doesn't impact you as it should.
There's been episodes all through, not just the finale, where hours afterwards you're still questioning what you believe and juggling your moral values. |
+99999999 Totally true.
Also, through all the seasons i thought of Mackey as a RATHER good guy with flaws but like i wrote in some recent post - when he confessed his sins to Olivia it was really striking.
Too bad the series has ended It was THE show i was waiting for all week dammit. Still i have the whole 7th season to watch again, and i didn't see the finale yet! Yay for me.
The Unit is good, Sons Of Anarchy is awesome (but not as good asThe Shield ofkoz) and they have the same producer right (Shawn Ryan)? Or is there more of the same film crew?
Anyway, can't wait till i get home today to watch the finale! Yaaaaaay! 
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Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 11:56 Post subject: |
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very realistic end but very sad.
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Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 17:17 Post subject: |
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The Shield is/was such a damn amazing series that I doubt that there will be any cop series anywhere near now that can even come close to match it. The way the characters have developed over time is just amazing, and at the seventh season you just see how everything just leads to where it was bound to.
And now for (maybe) some controverse, I think that The Shield is a lot better than The Wire in terms of entertainment and creating intensity and tension. The Wire might win the authenticity prize, but even that in many regards can be disputed when you look at the great many moments where The Shield could've gone a less realistic path, and instead turned into the hard cold reality.
The Shield has some of the best damn developed characters of any series, and it shows. At season 7, it's almost that you could just throw the script out the door just to watch the natural interactions between the characters, because of how solid they are; they just would create those moments that would drive this forward. Maybe with the exception of Aceveda, who I think turned out to be more bland (which probably is why he was sidelined).
The Shield never shied from being politically incorrect, and always rather would depict the truth regardless of what that might be. Big ass kudos for doing that in a world where Disney-morality is forced upon viewers with dogma and indiscretion.
I'm gonna miss watching Vic Mackey's 100% solid plans and their execution, and I'm gonna be comparing the solidity of this series to everything I watch. Which makes for a lot of disappointment, really. Because this is 5/5, no doubt.
I also think fisk should be unbanned.

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Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 18:08 Post subject: |
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dominae wrote: | I doubt that there will be any cop series anywhere near now that can even come close to match it |
The Wire, NYPD Blue, Homicide: Life on the Street to name a few. The Shield is not bad, but certainly nowhere near as good as the shows I mentioned.
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Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2008 20:43 Post subject: |
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[quote="iNatan"] dominae wrote: |
The Wire, NYPD Blue, Homicide: Life on the Street to name a few. The Shield is not bad, but certainly nowhere near as good as the shows I mentioned. |
Nowhere near as good, that's true. It's a lot better.
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Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2008 07:49 Post subject: |
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dominae wrote: | iNatan wrote: |
The Wire, NYPD Blue, Homicide: Life on the Street to name a few. The Shield is not bad, but certainly nowhere near as good as the shows I mentioned. |
Nowhere near as good, that's true. It's a lot better. |
In every topic i can imagine i didn't agree even once with Dominae but i do on this one. The Shield is definitely better IMO, but The Wire is great too. Fuck, i'll miss The Strike Team blues
About the finale of The Shield...if you ask me the "open" ending, i think it meant
Spoiler: | that Mackey took the gun from the desk not to kill himself of course, but i think when he heard the cop cars sirens he went to try and break Ronnie from jail (i guess he wasn't in prison yet) hoping that he (Vic) will do it or die trying (more propable). Despite losing the kids and having limited time of freedom (Olivia said that he had 3 years if my memory serves me well) i think Mackey would have ran instead of killing himself. Not without trying at least.
Shane's episode was really a sad one - he was also a fugitive ex-cop, but his wife, son and unborn daughter were innocent therefore it was very sad to see them dead...and Shane - he got what he deserved.
Ronnie is the person who got fucked the most, he did help to rob the money train, but he was the most responsible (if u can say that) and closest to righteousness - similar to Lem. It was sad to see him get caught  I thought Vic will scream "run!" before the unis catch him, that would be sweet.
I was happy to see the young seriall killer-kid to be caught after killing his mother despite him trying to frame Dutch.
After all i think the best ending would be Ronnie and Vic getting shot and killed while trying to escape. Just not like Omar in The Wire - almost randomly by a gang member (kid actually).
Despite everything i think the finale is good and solid and has a very simple message - if you're bad you either die instantly (Shane) or be a living dead (Ronnie and Vic). Crime doesn't pay.
I hope someday some similar show is going to surface and fill the gap after The Shield, a show that was fucking 10/10. |
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Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2008 08:16 Post subject: |
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I'm not sure why people keep seeing Ronnie as one of teh more innocent ones.
We never saw a moment of moral dilemna from Ronnie.
When anyone was needing to die he had little hesitation about agreeing to it. Sometimes even more readily than Vic. A part of me thinks he hid behind Vic but he was just as bad as him, if we'd seen more of his inner workings.
He had no concience or care for anyone other than himself and fellow strike teammembers, from what we saw of him.
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Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2008 08:40 Post subject: |
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Maybe, you're right. He followed Vic without hesitation, he also voted for robbing the money train. I guess that i thought of him as the "poor little one" because he is more quiet than the rest and made less appearances in total (except the last season of course).
Still i recall his small role (David Rees Sneel) in the last episode of The Unit. Somehow i couldn't shake the "Ronnie, Strike Team member" tag off of him.
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so I started watching this a little while ago (last few seasons) and have now finished it, holy shit I never thought i'd see a series that was on par with The Wire but this really is it. I'm not saying that in hype or anything I honestly believe it is.
The first 2 seasons (the ones I watched when I posted my first troll post in this thread) certainly aren't as good as the rest but once you get to the end of season 2 and into season 3 shit kicks off big time and you slowly watch their world crumble, it's fucking genius.
watching the strike team go through the first few seasons as kings of the world and then suddenly watching their world fall apart was done so perfectly it was almost like shakespeare!
all i can say at the final is fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk me
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I think The Shield only became good after Season 5, especially with Forest Whitaker's character. Season 6 was OK, but 7 was again good.
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I like the first seasons but its true that when the money train came into the picture and the whole "fight-not-to-go-to-fucking-prison thing (more action and more dramatic resolves), the show became excellent. In my book, The Shield is slightly better than The Wire because there is more action in it, and thats what im into.
Those two tv shows fucking rule and are standing against most of the movies today with no or shitty acting and fucked up plots.
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