[XBOX360] IX 1.61?
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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 21:05    Post subject:
Hmmmm. To those banned. Did you pay for gold membership?
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dangerouseddy




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 21:19    Post subject:
yes got gold membership until next feb.


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garus
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 21:29    Post subject:
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 21:30    Post subject:
Yah I had a year membership going, expires next June.


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RMFX




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 21:44    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
armando99 wrote:
a guy i think it was (stooz) who said dont do the connection test...can i ask u why u said that? i looked throu the thread but i didnt find that post


I said don't do that because I did that and it got me banned. ;p

I did not receive a Z error message, I received the ban message.


I just checked my 360 that I've been using on LIVE over the last 6 or 7 weeks. I did the connection test and guess what? Console banned!

Oh well, it was a dodgy RROD 360 anyway that I have been bringing back to life from RROD every few weeks so I don't mind letting it go now.

The thing is, it seems that everyone is getting hit. I've got a new elite here that I flashed, but I'm within 2 weeks of purchase so I think that I'll send it back to them for a replacement and say that it's defective. I'm thinking about just getting a replacement 360 and going legit now. I can't be doing with all of the stress of potentially being banned and losing my HDD functionality now. It's too much like hard work.
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 21:58    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
Hmmmm. To those banned. Did you pay for gold membership?


I just stick with Live subscription Razz


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deelix
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 22:02    Post subject:
This is why I never pay for live Cool Face
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armando99
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 22:07    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
sTo0z wrote:
armando99 wrote:
a guy i think it was (stooz) who said dont do the connection test...can i ask u why u said that? i looked throu the thread but i didnt find that post


I said don't do that because I did that and it got me banned. ;p

I did not receive a Z error message, I received the ban message.


I just checked my 360 that I've been using on LIVE over the last 6 or 7 weeks. I did the connection test and guess what? Console banned!

Oh well, it was a dodgy RROD 360 anyway that I have been bringing back to life from RROD every few weeks so I don't mind letting it go now.

The thing is, it seems that everyone is getting hit. I've got a new elite here that I flashed, but I'm within 2 weeks of purchase so I think that I'll send it back to them for a replacement and say that it's defective. I'm thinking about just getting a replacement 360 and going legit now. I can't be doing with all of the stress of potentially being banned and losing my HDD functionality now. It's too much like hard work.


thx for the respond i will not do the test then.
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 22:08    Post subject:
armando99 wrote:
RMFX wrote:
sTo0z wrote:


I said don't do that because I did that and it got me banned. ;p

I did not receive a Z error message, I received the ban message.


I just checked my 360 that I've been using on LIVE over the last 6 or 7 weeks. I did the connection test and guess what? Console banned!

Oh well, it was a dodgy RROD 360 anyway that I have been bringing back to life from RROD every few weeks so I don't mind letting it go now.

The thing is, it seems that everyone is getting hit. I've got a new elite here that I flashed, but I'm within 2 weeks of purchase so I think that I'll send it back to them for a replacement and say that it's defective. I'm thinking about just getting a replacement 360 and going legit now. I can't be doing with all of the stress of potentially being banned and losing my HDD functionality now. It's too much like hard work.


thx for the respond i will not do the test then.


I very much doubt that it's the test itself that got me banned. Mre than likely it was all of the pirated games that I've played on the console! I'm pretty sure that I must have been flagged before the actual test.
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armando99
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 22:12    Post subject:
wrong info


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RMFX




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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 22:16    Post subject:
armando99 wrote:
[03:11] <+c4eva> ok all consoles got banned at the same time exactly so FW must be detectable under new bootloader

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=694798&st=3405

dont know if its true or a lie.

i knew fw was detectable even when i said it wasnt


Sounds like nonsense. He couldn't provide a source.

But my opinion is that the firmware has to be detectable.
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armando99
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 22:20    Post subject:
well when i looked further to the thread it seems that he made it up..sorry for the wrong info i will delete it and i hope rmfx edit his post so ppl dont get it wrong
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 08:35    Post subject:
So it looks like it WAS the firmware. Who'd have thunk it eh?

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=695817

C4Eva is testing a new "lite" version of the firmware for the Lite-On and says no more bans. Well, we'll see about that.
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Squeakyclean




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 08:37    Post subject:
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I very much doubt that it's the test itself that got me banned. Mre than likely it was all of the pirated games that I've played on the console! I'm pretty sure that I must have been flagged before the actual test.


I think so too.
And if people get banned without ever playing a copied game on their flashed box, it surely must mean they can detect fw.

Anything the real C4E has said about the banns?
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 08:40    Post subject:
Squeakyclean wrote:
Quote:

I very much doubt that it's the test itself that got me banned. Mre than likely it was all of the pirated games that I've played on the console! I'm pretty sure that I must have been flagged before the actual test.


I think so too.
And if people get banned without ever playing a copied game on their flashed box, it surely must mean they can detect fw.

Anything the real C4E has said about the banns?

See my previous post.
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jmdeking




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 08:54    Post subject:
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( @[X]nWo[X] ) [c4eva] new fw in dev/test - ixtreme LT (Lite Touch) - more efficient , minimal patching , all aspects of fw indistinguisable from orig, no more bans, No ETA!
.:23·40·37:. ( @[X]nWo[X] ) dont ask eta = ban
.:23·40·40:. ( @[X]nWo[X] ) dont ask question = ban
.:23·40·45:. ( @[X]nWo[X] ) liteon will be 1st

( @[X]nWo[X] ) we ripped 40+ ntsc games
( @[X]nWo[X] ) at least every 3rd didnt verify :c
( @[X]nWo[X] ) with a properly ripped ntsc
( @[X]nWo[X] ) so the db = defn has problems
( @[X]nWo[X] ) madden 10 is a prime exampke
( @[X]nWo[X] ) example
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 09:08    Post subject:
So new, more strict and lighter FW + a VERY strict rip-database (obviously, not all the releases marked as OK today are really OK) could actually prevent ban waves like this in the future.

I'm kinda excited to see if it can be done Smile


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Mr_Baggins




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 09:14    Post subject:
I wonder how much would the asshole in microsoft charge to leak info on how they ban. I bet he can be bought.


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Mr_Baggins




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 09:22    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
So new, more strict and lighter FW + a VERY strict rip-database (obviously, not all the releases marked as OK today are really OK) could actually prevent ban waves like this in the future.

I'm kinda excited to see if it can be done Smile


Is it possible that this new FW will cause older games not to boot?


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Who-CareZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 09:23    Post subject:
Mr_Baggins wrote:
I wonder how much would the asshole in microsoft charge to leak info on how they ban. I bet he can be bought.


No doubt. Anybody can be bought. All it takes is one e-mail to him from MS offering him cash to go to their offices for some kind of deal. Trust me, he will sell out if they offer him half a million or something to cease making firmwares.

Nevertheless, this new firmware is good news, I still have not updated to 1.61 now I am glad. I just have to hope I'm still not banned. Right now I don't even know if I am since I have not logged on at all. But I did log in to get the update about a week ago, I might be screwed because of that.
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 09:44    Post subject:
to see if your banned or not check if you can order a repair on MS website
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 09:49    Post subject:
mcmanic wrote:
to see if your banned or not check if you can order a repair on MS website


That's nonsense though. I'm in Holland and can request a repair for my banned 360 that was hit during the first wave. It is definetely banned and has been for 3 years or so. I can request a repair and get right up to the payment page where I have to fill in my credit card details.

The only way to really know is to hook it up to live.
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_SiN_
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 09:51    Post subject:
mcmanic wrote:
to see if your banned or not check if you can order a repair on MS website


No, because people who are banned have managed to get the repair. And even unflashed consoles sometimes shows up with the "Try again later"-error that supposedly are given to the banned ones.


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Who-CareZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 10:14    Post subject:
The thing is, the last time I was on Live was during the Wave, bout 5 days ago, it was the first time in 3 months I had been on live, got the new update, and managed to stay on live for at least an hour downloading demo's and theme packs, even browsing the avatar store.

That hour on live was probably more then enough time for MS to catch my system. So I really think I am flagged. I cannot afford to buy a new system right now. So if I get banned I am screwed bigtime, no HD, no Save files, corrupt Profile.

Until I get a new system, I cant afford to get banned right now.

I wish that method worked, the repair service thing, but its useless. Eventually I have to bite the bullet. I will wait until this new Firmware is released. I just have to hope I escaped this wave.

And BTW. Has anyone from ABGX even commented on their MASSIVE fuck up on their data base? I played Madden 10, and now reading what nWo said, its a bad verification on ABGX for Madden 10. Maybe more. WTF!

What are we supposed to use now that ABGX seems to be useless? I'm not using that shit again.
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prime2009




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 12:28    Post subject: true
good point, is troubling and I wasn't surprised to hear that there verification thing was going to be botched, hell maybe MS own it now. be the easy strategy. You can now buy a Kreon drive and make your own backups. That is how it should be done anyway I guess.
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 12:33    Post subject: Re: true
prime2009 wrote:
good point, is troubling and I wasn't surprised to hear that there verification thing was going to be botched, hell maybe MS own it now. be the easy strategy. You can now buy a Kreon drive and make your own backups. That is how it should be done anyway I guess.


The problem is that there are people who have been banned using their own rips and others apparently who have never booted a backup. I find the last part hard to be lieve though as I can't see anyone flashing their drive and then not testing it to see if it boots a backup.
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Gizzie




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 12:54    Post subject:
Bought a mw 2 console yesterday, not going to flash it anyway Smile

got 2 xbox360 here who have a flashed firmware, i dont mind using the bootdisc Smile
for me its certain that fw is detactable


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Mr_Baggins




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 13:37    Post subject:
Who-CareZ wrote:
Mr_Baggins wrote:
I wonder how much would the asshole in microsoft charge to leak info on how they ban. I bet he can be bought.


No doubt. Anybody can be bought. All it takes is one e-mail to him from MS offering him cash to go to their offices for some kind of deal. Trust me, he will sell out if they offer him half a million or something to cease making firmwares.

Nevertheless, this new firmware is good news, I still have not updated to 1.61 now I am glad. I just have to hope I'm still not banned. Right now I don't even know if I am since I have not logged on at all. But I did log in to get the update about a week ago, I might be screwed because of that.


Nah, I meant the guy who works in micoshit and knows HOW do they ban Razz


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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 14:01    Post subject:
Wow. Scary shit....I don't care about Live, but i like HDD install feature, good thing i didn't connect to Live yet so i don't know if i am banned or not
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RMFX




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 14:14    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
Wow. Scary shit....I don't care about Live, but i like HDD install feature, good thing i didn't connect to Live yet so i don't know if i am banned or not


But if you are banned already then you'll still probbably lose the HDD install feature after the next update. My launch 360 hadn't been connected to LIVE for 3 years as it was caught in the first ban wave but I lost the HDD install feature 2 weeks ago when I updated the dash on it when I plugged my HDD in from my new 360. If you're console is revoked then they'll get you in the end anyway as some games will not run unless you intall updates which will come on future game discs.
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