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Fuck it, someone spoil it for me. Is it worth the while to reload if I only have three loyalty missions left and some minor sidequests?
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chiv
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:27 Post subject: |
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question question question
when i do that mining shit.. u know, going to planets and scanning for ore n shit... down the bottom there are 4 'bars' representing the types of ore you can get... why is it that when the bar is full, i can still mine for ore, and the ore amounts i have continue to go up? in other words, whats the point of the bars?
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:28 Post subject: |
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| MinderMast wrote: | About IFF (Although you really should just play the game as you see fit, for best experience in my opinion, asking what to do is no fun at all  ):
 Spoiler: | First, you can't actually avoid it on purpose, if I remember correctly, you will be forced to go there at one point.
Second, no one will die on IFF..consequences will come after. What they mean is, if you wait too long, by doing some quests (besides the legion one) between Joker mission (you'll understand soon enough) and going through the Omega relay...you will have consequences. |
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You can save it until youve done everything else. Things pick up from there
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:30 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Fuck it, someone spoil it for me. Is it worth the while to reload if I only have three loyalty missions left and some minor sidequests? |
Hard to say if its worth the while to reload. You can still finish the game without losing any of the main characters.
If you really want to know what happens...
| Spoiler: | Shortly after getting the IFF (1 or 2 missions later), you will be forced to start the end mission immediately or you will lose your crew except for Doctor Chakwas. And crew means the people running your ship - not the people you can take with you on missions  |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:32 Post subject: |
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| RainyDay wrote: | I'm glad i had i had a save before i did IFF, i backed and i'm doing everything possible before taking teh awesome geth.
Anyway.Too bad there is no female-female romance :[ Now i gotta choose who do i like more, Garrus or Thane.. tough :[ |
I thought there was a lesbo option
| Mister_s wrote: | | Fuck it, someone spoil it for me. Is it worth the while to reload if I only have three loyalty missions left and some minor sidequests? |
| Spoiler: | Ultimately during the final mission some of the "minor" crew dies if you wait too long. I dunno if it includes Dr Chakwas and Kelly. |
| chiv wrote: | question question question
when i do that mining shit.. u know, going to planets and scanning for ore n shit... down the bottom there are 4 'bars' representing the types of ore you can get... why is it that when the bar is full, i can still mine for ore, and the ore amounts i have continue to go up? in other words, whats the point of the bars? |
You can keep getting more but I dunno if you get less or anything. Kinda pointless maybe
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wawrzul
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:41 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | question question question
when i do that mining shit.. u know, going to planets and scanning for ore n shit... down the bottom there are 4 'bars' representing the types of ore you can get... why is it that when the bar is full, i can still mine for ore, and the ore amounts i have continue to go up? in other words, whats the point of the bars? |
Same for me. EVERY fucking planet has lots of platinum and almost no iridium. That's fucking annoying :/
Also the mining is so fucking booooring...just cruising the planet with my mouse (and an enhanced scanner that is a tad faster).
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:48 Post subject: |
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| daniggo wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | | Fuck it, someone spoil it for me. Is it worth the while to reload if I only have three loyalty missions left and some minor sidequests? |
Hard to say if its worth the while to reload. You can still finish the game without losing any of the main characters.
If you really want to know what happens...
| Spoiler: | Shortly after getting the IFF (1 or 2 missions later), you will be forced to start the end mission immediately or you will lose your crew except for Doctor Chakwas. And crew means the people running your ship - not the people you can take with you on missions |
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Ah ok, I don't mind that. I just don't want to lose any sidequests because I end the game suddenly.
| wawrzul wrote: | Same for me. EVERY fucking planet has lots of platinum and almost no iridium. That's fucking annoying :/
Also the mining is so fucking booooring...just cruising the planet with my mouse (and an enhanced scanner that is a tad faster). |
The smaller planets seem to have the most iridium and element zero. Mihgt be a coincedence though.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:48 Post subject: |
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i gotta say... i miss the original way of doing these missions... with that wikky offroader vehicle. that thing was fun to drive, and it felt more freeform. now its just scanning and if you find something, you get auto-dumped to the small area to clean it out. bit of a pity, but oh well. perhaps the vehicle will return in a $19.95 DLC?  wouldnt surprise me....
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:57 Post subject: |
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Doing loyalty missions is preferable to not doing them and going sooner after the crew.
| Spoiler: | It is possible to lose both the crew and some of the squad. Of course if you manage to rescue the crew and lose a couple of squadmates, it is arguable which is preferable: you might not know the crew as much as you do your squad, and their deaths are not as dramatic, but there is more of them..and they are people too!!! |
Edit: There will be a vehicle DLC - Hammerhead,not much is known about it at this point.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 14:59 Post subject: |
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The Mako driving got pretty damn repetitive on ME1, and it was particularly annoying when you had to navigate planets with VERY irregular geography.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 15:03 Post subject: |
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weird, because i never had any trouble, it was fun getting air on that crazy ass truck, but yeah it did happen a little too often... still miss it though.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 15:04 Post subject: |
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The Mako driving was cool, even the combat was kinda fun. But those generated planets and "empty" sidequests were shit.
I prefer ME2's anomalies, even though they are few.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 15:05 Post subject: |
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Oh you mean having the mako turned on its side without shields trying to shoot at geth? Yeah, those were fun times... lol
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 15:09 Post subject: |
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I could never get a handle on the controls, it was easy enough to jump above those shots but it was still annoying. I don't think they should of completely gotten rid of it but to use it for main missions was a drag lol.
Actually, well, it was pretty awesome when on Illos. But other than that.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 15:47 Post subject: |
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More probes, more fuel - upgrades for scanning.
In my opinion scanning is better for two reasons:
- It's better than, as everyone mentioned, driving around on boring terrains with boring identical missions and it could take a lot of time. Which is bad if it's boring.
- you actually have a reason to gather resources, and once you get what you need, you don't have to scan anything other than the side missions, which is pretty easy and fast
Some backdrops were good in ME1 though, I agree.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 15:51 Post subject: |
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why did they remove the mako.ok.put scanning but leave the mako for the ppl who enjoyed driving with their mako .
30% of my time spent ingame i think is holding the right mouse button for scanning FFS
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 15:53 Post subject: |
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Many people didn't. Mako sections were one of the most talked about negative points almost in every ME1 review. They'll try to improve with Hammerhead, I guess.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 15:57 Post subject: |
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Haha, the first time that timer came up I made the mistake of actually trying to kill some of the Geth. I think I missed the Conduit by 2 seconds FFFFUUUUUUU. Glad I didn't run into that bug, though.
I wonder what the point of the Hammerhead will be? I guess it'll come with some side missions too, but eh.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 16:04 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | daniggo wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | | Fuck it, someone spoil it for me. Is it worth the while to reload if I only have three loyalty missions left and some minor sidequests? |
Hard to say if its worth the while to reload. You can still finish the game without losing any of the main characters.
If you really want to know what happens...
| Spoiler: | Shortly after getting the IFF (1 or 2 missions later), you will be forced to start the end mission immediately or you will lose your crew except for Doctor Chakwas. And crew means the people running your ship - not the people you can take with you on missions |
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Ah ok, I don't mind that. I just don't want to lose any sidequests because I end the game suddenly. |
| Spoiler: | It lets you do side missions after the final mission. Dunno about loyalty ones though cuz I finished those |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 16:09 Post subject: |
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| MinderMast wrote: | More probes, more fuel - upgrades for scanning.
In my opinion scanning is better for two reasons:
- It's better than, as everyone mentioned, driving around on boring terrains with boring identical missions and it could take a lot of time. Which is bad if it's boring.
- you actually have a reason to gather resources, and once you get what you need, you don't have to scan anything other than the side missions, which is pretty easy and fast
Some backdrops were good in ME1 though, I agree. |
No...I mean upgrades as in don't waste time scanning every fucking inch because the scanning range is shit.
In other words can you upgrade the size of the scanning reticle? Also it's not that usefull for a number of reason:
1. You don't get a heads up on what resources are highly probably to encounter on a specific planet.
2. It takes to much time to scan the planet inch by inch... Also it's a bit unrealistic.
Hi, I am the ships AI but I'm too MORONIC to search a planet for high concentration of natural resources. Please Shepard since you have nothin' else to do like saving the galaxy you do it....because I'm practically useless.
It's not like the game is so unlinear when comparing it to the first one that they couldn't automate the freakin' thing.
They pretty much listened to the community, removed the driving segment and substituted it with another boring function. WOW....what a big trade off. I'm mind blown by they're improvement.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 16:16 Post subject: |
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It's true. Scanning takes at least 30% of gameplay time. That's too much for a mini-game. No wonder it gets boring fast.
Luckily, after you get decent supply of resources, you don't need to do it anymore.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 16:17 Post subject: |
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I don't have to scan a planet inch by inch. You just scroll and look for a peak. As for realism, looking for realism in games is never good.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 16:27 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | I don't have to scan a planet inch by inch. You just scroll and look for a peak. As for realism, looking for realism in games is never good. |
And how do you find the peak? By moving the slow (still slow even after upgrading) reticle inch by inch over the planets surface.
Add the fact that u have to stop every time u launch a probe and you get the point I'm getting at.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 16:32 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | The original trailers for ME2 showed Shepard as KIA, and a Geth wearing his N7 uniform. This lead to massive speculation about whether or not he was alive or dead - and BioWare themselves said it's possible.
Don't worry, you'll find out within 10mins of playing ME2 (and you'll LOVE it too! Storyline is incredible, just be warned; it has far less RPG/exploration aspects than the first game - it's a shooter now) |
Great, Thanks for the explanation. That makes a ton of sense now. Surprised a Bioware game would go more the shooter route than the RPG route. Bizarre to say the least. Oh well, I am looking forward to trying this out today.
Thanks again,
MD
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Jan 2010 17:05 Post subject: |
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Hmm..didn't move it inch by inch either. Once you get the faster scanner, you can pretty much move it as fast as you want, and the peaks that are worth it will be easily noticeable. Just go for the planets that are Rich...you'll get plenty of very high peaks there. It is true, that if you don't have a decent start up on resources (you get it by importing saves) it might take you a while to get a good stockpile. It does get tedious if you do it for too long, But no one is asking you to do it all the time, and it is still faster than Mako and actually has a purpose. I hated driving around god knows where on a Mako just to scan that one stupid anomaly you only needed for a useless assignment. It's not a perfect system, but still an improvement in my opinion.
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