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Yondaime
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 16:50    Post subject:
Yondaime wrote:
So if 5/5 is the full score what does it mean if not perfect? Tell me, I'd like to know exactly what a 5/5 means if it doesn't mean it's perfect.


5/5 means it's a very good game, better than games that score 4/5, but still not flawless.

I understand your logic, but honestly why have scale of 5 if you are never going to use full range of it? Hence 5/5 should mean almost perfect game, but there will always be some room for improvements, no matter what.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2010 16:56    Post subject:
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thenormal02




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 13:52    Post subject:
so i read this game's protection is gonna be hard to crack.... is that right?
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 13:55    Post subject:
SecuROM (Whatever the version number is now.) but with online activation (Disc check as well?) and a date check during installation apparently (Probably encrypted EXE file so nothing can be done until the 9th when it "unlocks".) plus LIVE but that shouldn't be much of a issue unless it's key-locked again. (Which it seems to not be.)

Should go fairly fast with a release once the EXE is available, if it'll work in MP with such a release is uncertain however.
(If it's a launcher EXE live is tied to then it'll work but if it's the main EXE then LIVE won't really work as the file is altered, so far though it's mostly been launchers.)
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 14:13    Post subject:
Steam version wont have Securom.... So surely crackable.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 14:35    Post subject:
I guess that the games for windows live shit can be run in offline mode just like Arkham Asylum...Unless Microsoft have made games for windows live more secure since...


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 15:14    Post subject:
Some users here have had issues creating offline accounts in newer games or perhaps with updated versions of LIVE though it should still be doable, can't really remove that functionality albeit it has some other restrictions.
(Mainly MP related and it doesn't tie to your online profile so no achievement updates/uploads and gamerscore tracking, mostly minor things from what I know.)
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 15:18    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Some users here have had issues creating offline accounts in newer games or perhaps with updated versions of LIVE though it should still be doable, can't really remove that functionality albeit it has some other restrictions.
(Mainly MP related and it doesn't tie to your online profile so no achievement updates/uploads and gamerscore tracking, mostly minor things from what I know.)


Well I don't care about achievements and multiiplayer when it comes to Bioshock so I'm not that worried Smile
What concerns me is Assassins Creed 2, I really hope there is a way to crack that as I Really want to play it, but I will never pay for it because of that ubi online crap.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 15:25    Post subject:
I got my copy today from my brother,who work in games store,but i can't play,because there are Securom Release Date Check. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 15:28    Post subject:
maul_inc wrote:

What concerns me is Assassins Creed 2, I really hope there is a way to crack that as I Really want to play it, but I will never pay for it because of that ubi online crap.


Dude if you're cheap just say you're cheap, don't make up lame excuses for being cheap. If you really wanted to play the game the online crap wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference, and if you were not cheap you'd buy the game anyway and just wait for a fix to deal with the online crap. Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 15:29    Post subject:
PAG500 wrote:
I got my copy today from my brother,who work in games store,but i can't play,because there are Securom Release Date Check. Sad


I wonder if it's the same story as with Bioshock 1 where the start file would have to be downloaded on release day from 2K's servers...
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 15:33    Post subject:
OG wrote:
maul_inc wrote:

What concerns me is Assassins Creed 2, I really hope there is a way to crack that as I Really want to play it, but I will never pay for it because of that ubi online crap.


Dude if you're cheap just say you're cheap, don't make up lame excuses for being cheap. If you really wanted to play the game the online crap wouldn't make the blindest bit of difference, and if you were not cheap you'd buy the game anyway and just wait for a fix to deal with the online crap. Rolling Eyes


Oh yes it will, and I don't think I'm being cheap as I own 56 games on steam and a lot more bought in retail stores. I can live with steam as an online drm as it's stable and not to invasive, it's all the other crap like GFWL and IWNET and now UBIONLINE that pisses me off and stuff like that I won't pay for. That said, I really liked ASS Creed 1 and therefore I would like to play the sequel.
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 15:40    Post subject:
it's sounding like this game is going to be a big pain in the ass to play, should I just play it on my 360?
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 15:52    Post subject:
Why is it going to be fail? Gameplay and graphics looks very nice to me.


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 16:30    Post subject:
digitalman42 wrote:
it's sounding like this game is going to be a big pain in the ass to play, should I just play it on my 360?


well...pc games were never easy to configure even if you buy it legaly, you always have the chance of thec problems (as you probably know).
but if you like pc gaming, you are whiling to solve all the problems and to earn your pc gaming:)

me in personal likes to play most of the games on pc and some like tenis and other sports games i play on the wii.

but today even the consoles need more then : insert cd and play , so if it's question of thec probs and you prefer the pc, i guess..go with the pc;)


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2010 19:47    Post subject:
aeonfast wrote:
Why is it going to be fail? Gameplay and graphics looks very nice to me.


The electric bolt in bioshock 2 was never so great
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 12:02    Post subject:
Hmmm got my hands on a copy of Bioshock 2 lets install and play...

 Spoiler:
 



FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 12:03    Post subject:
sueil wrote:
Hmmm got my hands on a copy of Bioshock 2 lets install and play...

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU


I guess it sucks to be you right now Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 14:06    Post subject:
They also logged your IP and are on their way to frame you for pirating


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 14:20    Post subject:
Yondaime wrote:

Because you need something that represents perfection (full score) and something that represents the complete opposite, without those two things you can't give a proper specific score. That's how I see it anyhow, but I'll let go off this discussion now because it's not on topic any more and it's pointless. Smile


Without wanting to go further off topic, I'd like to point out that the "full points" score generally just means that the game met 100% of the review criteria that the publication uses. That criteria could be extremely difficult to reach -- for example, getting all 6.0s in figure skating is very difficult -- or extremely easy -- Siskel and Ebert's famous "two thumbs up" was easy to get.

And most publications declare these criteria. For example, IGN's criteria for a 10 is: "No game is absolutely perfect, but 10s represent the pinnacle of gaming brilliance. It doesn't get any better than this, and products in this range are virtually flawless. This is like winning the lottery on your birthday. It takes a rare and special game to earn a 10 from IGN," or in the case of Bioshock's 9.1: "If a game scores a 9.0 or better, you know it's a worthwhile experience with just a few imperfections. Games of this caliber are also must-haves, even if you're not particularly fond of the genre."

It's great to have your own idea of how the world should work, but you can't just will it into being that way.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:01    Post subject:
well an ISO image of the game already hit the net. Now all we need is a crack
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:05    Post subject:
thenormal02 wrote:
well an ISO image of the game already hit the net. Now all we need is a crack


proof?


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:07    Post subject:
TPB

Multi5, SecuROM with date check activation + GFW, DVD9.

No crack
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:12    Post subject:
nothing new, protection was known before. but does anybody know if they use different activationservers for different timezones? if they do the aussies could already activate it (cause there is already the 9th february)
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:16    Post subject:
getthehellout wrote:
thenormal02 wrote:
well an ISO image of the game already hit the net. Now all we need is a crack


proof?


there isnt really much need for any proof... the game (or should i say the dvd) is in peoples hands since friday, its just useless at the moment.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:21    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
nothing new, protection was known before. but does anybody know if they use different activationservers for different timezones? if they do the aussies could already activate it (cause there is already the 9th february)


http://2kgames.com/bioshock2/activation/


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:23    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
nothing new, protection was known before. but does anybody know if they use different activationservers for different timezones? if they do the aussies could already activate it (cause there is already the 9th february)


if i remember correctly, it will be released at 2-3pm in australia (their local time)
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2010 15:24    Post subject:
So maybe they'll crack it and release it soon Very Happy
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