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AveCeasar




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 21:49    Post subject: Replays
Does anyone know about a good place to get replays? (other than those by DaZe - I've already seen them)
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 22:15    Post subject:
The SC2 wiki tutorial thing works, but you're only able to watch replays for now. Better than any streaming! Razz
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 22:25    Post subject:
Anyone got an alt mirror on the SC2 replays? Current link is dead.


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Kyorisu




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 22:34    Post subject:
Smikis. wrote:
ur a fail.. thats how we define it.. calling most successive game ever, a failure is really smart yeh ? maybe you dont like mmorpgs.. but thats you..


Oh noes someone insulted WOW. WOW is for fags, all ten or so million fags. Having an opinion is not fail. I honestly have to agree with the guy WOW is a complete and utter joke to ME and you won't catch me dead playing it (to this date I have not).

Amer_MerzZz wrote:
Blizzard is the best dev studio. At least i dont remember any major fails from them and i love all of their games.


Blizzard isn't that great. If it wasn't for WOW they would be dead right now. I mean only now are we seeing things like SC2 and D3? Now? They take too long kinda like Valve. I don't praise development teams it's a waste of time I praise the games they make.


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 22:39    Post subject:
And WoW couldn't possible have anything to do with how long SC2 and D3 took?
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Kyorisu




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 22:41    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
And WoW couldn't possible have anything to do with how long SC2 and D3 took?


No.
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Cohen




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 23:02    Post subject:
I think they need to fix up the imbalances and then it will be awesome. Currently Im getting raped by overpowered units even when I have better economy, more units and usually, better micro. Its frustrating.

Currently, PvT is the only thing worth playing. When Zerg are in play, every one gets boned. Roaches are megga, and IMO Zerglings are just too fast when upgraded. Zerg Rush was always powerful, but now its almost unstoppable.


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 23:14    Post subject:
OK so from reading a couple of IRC chans the obvious is apparent:

Quote:
Crack is in process, but its useless until they can figure out how to unlock the AI.. since the game / BETA doesnt support LAN play, (You must connect to Battle.Net to authenticate) a workaround is needed. Or we gonna have either a game that you can crack and then play against AI that doesnt work or a cracked game that cant play over lan so cant do shit with it. It seems a lot of the cracker types are trying to do it though so fingers crossed.


Hope its out soon, Really want to play against some friends on hamachi Very Happy


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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 23:19    Post subject:
Probably in 1-2 months, we may see an emulated bnet, if we're lucky?


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Nui
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 23:30    Post subject:
how do you figure?!


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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 23:33    Post subject:
educated guess?


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Feb 2010 23:35    Post subject:
This is also assuming that the fully independent enemy AI is even included within the BETA which I really doubt.

Blizzard are far from stupid, and this BETA is planned well IMO. I really doubt we will see anything like a bnet emu.. but possibly a crack / workaround based on what happens when bnet authenticates.


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FISKER_Q




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:07    Post subject:
Kyorisu wrote:
Smikis. wrote:
ur a fail.. thats how we define it.. calling most successive game ever, a failure is really smart yeh ? maybe you dont like mmorpgs.. but thats you..


Oh noes someone insulted WOW. WOW is for fags, all ten or so million fags. Having an opinion is not fail. I honestly have to agree with the guy WOW is a complete and utter joke to ME and you won't catch me dead playing it (to this date I have not).

Amer_MerzZz wrote:
Blizzard is the best dev studio. At least i dont remember any major fails from them and i love all of their games.


Blizzard isn't that great. If it wasn't for WOW they would be dead right now. I mean only now are we seeing things like SC2 and D3? Now? They take too long kinda like Valve. I don't praise development teams it's a waste of time I praise the games they make.


You assume that if one certain event would be changed that the following chain of events wouldn't, if Blizzard didn't have WoW, we'd probably have SC2 and Diablo 3 out already, so yes they would very much still exist.
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:33    Post subject:
Cohen wrote:
This is also assuming that the fully independent enemy AI is even included within the BETA which I really doubt.

There's some videos on YouTube about people allegedly playing against the AI.
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:35    Post subject:
Blizzard confirmed in their Beta FAQ that there is AI in the beta.
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StrEagle




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:35    Post subject:

there is AI, but only easy difficulty, as far as I heard


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:38    Post subject:
Why are we having a discussion about WoW in the Starcraft 2 thread? Take it to the void ffs Rolling Eyes

Back on topic... Has anyone heard any news about release date of the final game yet?


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:42    Post subject:
I'd say it's very possible we see a cracked beta with a skirmish mode. Not so much with online matches.
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:46    Post subject:
Cohen wrote:
Why are we having a discussion about WoW in the Starcraft 2 thread? Take it to the void ffs Rolling Eyes

Back on topic... Has anyone heard any news about release date of the final game yet?

They said mid-2010.

If I remember correctly, the WarCraft III beta came out around February/March, too, and the full game was released around July. I'd say July-August for StarCraft II.

dezztroy wrote:
I'd say it's very possible we see a cracked beta with a skirmish mode. Not so much with online matches.

I concur.
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XHPrime




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:54    Post subject:
There might not even be an AI to crack; if they went with easy (dumb) AI the decisions could easily be processed server side to prevent this issue.
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litwicki23
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 00:59    Post subject:
cool SC2 will be nice game for 100%
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Dm242




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 01:09    Post subject:
the Warcraft 3 beta started 14th Febuary and the game was in stores 3rd July.
If i am not totally mistaken.
Anyways who knows. Might be a bit faster this time with their new budget after WoW, Warcraft 3 etc.

Either way, cant wait for my preordered copy hehe Smile
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 02:14    Post subject:
XHPrime wrote:
There might not even be an AI to crack; if they went with easy (dumb) AI the decisions could easily be processed server side to prevent this issue.
I really doubt that.
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 02:34    Post subject:
from what I noticed browsing the game data files, the AI is stored offline. But the maplist that is needed to host games, even against an AI is stored ONLINE, so we would probably need a bnet emu, at least a simple one, to play against an AI....


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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 03:00    Post subject:
No.

Apparently you can get maps from watching replays. It's somewhat unclear, since the English of those working on it sucks.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 05:00    Post subject:
So, who here has beta access ? Cool Face
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 12:02    Post subject:
Yes, you obviously don't know what the maplist is. It's in most cases actually a file that is hosted server side only and that the game is expecting to load from a server to know what map you have (it doesn't matter whether you have the map offline, because it won't see them)

Without that file (which can be spoofed via a private serve), one's wont be able to host any game, vs a human or vs an AI....

ShadowB wrote:
No.

Apparently you can get maps from watching replays. It's somewhat unclear, since the English of those working on it sucks.
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ShadowB




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 14:19    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Yes, you obviously don't know what the maplist is.

Nope, I didn't. Very Happy

Sucks, then. You'd need to emulate a maplist-getting connection, or somehow work around it, maybe skipping it like the login screen was skipped. But it may be embedded into the game-hosting procedures, so... Sad

How about, if possible, instead of having the game call Battle.net for the maplist, point it to a local address instead of an internet one?

I'm rambling here.
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Theescapist




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 14:22    Post subject:
They should open the beta up so everyone can play for a week or something?
Are they opening it for everyone soon or or it staying closed?


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Feb 2010 14:27    Post subject:
if you want to have your % chance you gotta have at least 1 game on battlenet , if you just activate wow trial, well that doesnt work .


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