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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 18:17    Post subject: Some new hardware
Well i got cash back from my old apartment service costs and gonna buy some new hardware wich i badly needed.

Was thinking of:

Headset: €77,-
Roccat Kave Solid 5.1 Gaming Headset


Keyboard: €129,-
Logitech G19



Mouse: €69,-
Razer Naga



I was first thinking of getting this headset but would mean i had to leave keyboard out. Plus the fact that this one is EMULATED 7.1 while the other has REAL 5.1.

Headset: €159,-
Razer MEGALODON 7.1



So anyone can advice on this, should i go for the 3 or the 2 parts or maybe replace something by something better/cheaper?

Budget for this atm 270 euro, max 300 could be spend.


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 18:28    Post subject:
Im actually thinking of getting new hardware this week as well. Gonna order a video card!! Very Happy

I currently have a EVGA 8800GT which I borrowed from a friend (obviously its temporary). I used to have a XFX HD4850 but even before I bought it in November 2009, I told myself that it was just going to be a temporary card. And so I sold the radeon last month.

Ive been reading reviews and checking out prices on ebay for weeks but I finally made up my mind. Going to order the card either tomorrow or the day after! and then I will post some pics Very Happy

Anyways about your post, that mouse in the picture is pretty awesome. The keyboard and headset seem a bit pricey though but then again Im going to be spending a shit load of cash this week as well (on the vid card) so I say go for its truly what you really really want and you have no doubt in your mind about it



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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 19:34    Post subject:
Both the mouse and keyboard are way over the top if you ask me. Are you really going to use the macros on the keyboard, and all the buttons on the mouse? I highly doubt it to be honest Smile

I'd save money on both of those fronts. The headset is a good product for a headset, although like all headsets, it lacks a bit on the bass and treble; mostly the bass is quite weak. What kind of soundcard do you have? I highly discourage using an onboard soundcard with this. Onboard chips are pretty decent nowadays, but if you're willing to spend that kind of money on a mere headset, you might as well spend some money on an X-Fi or Xonar. Especially the X-Fi in OpenAL enabled games makes a huge difference in sound quality, and the crystalyzer option remedies some of the unpure sounds the headset will have Smile

You can easily get a Xonar or X-Fi for the money you can save by not going for an overpriced kb/mouse Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 23:01    Post subject:
Well im going to use those macro keys for WoW, and since imma paladin i quite need alot Razz

The soundcards is an onboard 5.1 yea but sound aint that important for me anymore, im currently using a 10euro one where the cable easy gets fucked (donno how to say it in english what i mean exactly) so i just wanted to have something better then that.


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2010 23:04    Post subject:
The mouse is good for FPS or maybe some mmo's. I personally wanna get it just cause I think I could get use out of those side buttons.

Keyboard I have no opinion as I don't use logitech.

Headphones I would say go for the barracud HP1.7.1 is over rated and I doubt you'll notice a difference with it in headphones. The volume part of the HP1's is smaller, they're not touch interface so you have actual buttons, and the mic isn't as annoying as well as being detachable. I really think they went backwards with the megladon from what they did with the HP1's. I also love having it be a detachable mic, doesn't ever get in the way like every other headset with obtrusive mics.



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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 00:09    Post subject:
I just ordered my video card! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Feeling very excited and kinda extremely poor!



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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 01:45    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Well im going to use those macro keys for WoW, and since imma paladin i quite need alot Razz

The soundcards is an onboard 5.1 yea but sound aint that important for me anymore, im currently using a 10euro one where the cable easy gets fucked (donno how to say it in english what i mean exactly) so i just wanted to have something better then that.


Use the money to enter a WoW-anti-brainwashing0 program and get a life??? Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 02:20    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
sausje wrote:
Well im going to use those macro keys for WoW, and since imma paladin i quite need alot Razz

The soundcards is an onboard 5.1 yea but sound aint that important for me anymore, im currently using a 10euro one where the cable easy gets fucked (donno how to say it in english what i mean exactly) so i just wanted to have something better then that.


Use the money to enter a WoW-anti-brainwashing0 program and get a life??? Wink


(used to play WoW myself) Razz


Nah im not that addicted, i login at raidtime and logout after. Have too many other games to play Cool Face


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 10:05    Post subject:
If sound isn't so important, why spend such a silly amount on the headset Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 10:05    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:


Why is there a DVI with the headphones Confused Did they finally invent the 'you can SEE the SOUND' thing grinhurt grinhurt
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 10:18    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
If sound isn't so important, why spend such a silly amount on the headset Razz


Cuz i dont want a headset where suddenly stuff breaks or the cable suddenly gets fucked (u know breaks inside the cable). Wich usually happens with the 10 euro ones.


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 12:15    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
pwerelds wrote:
If sound isn't so important, why spend such a silly amount on the headset Razz


Cuz i dont want a headset where suddenly stuff breaks or the cable suddenly gets fucked (u know breaks inside the cable). Wich usually happens with the 10 euro ones.

Yeah but you're skipping the middle segment now Smile

Not to mention the fact that for 100-120 you can get a good set of headphones, which will sound better than any headset, and then you just use a 5 euro desktop mic - I've got a desktop mic by Creative, from 1993, and the damn thing still works Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 13:19    Post subject:
Huh what do u mean with "Yeah but you're skipping the middle segment now"

Could u translate that in dutch please? lol


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 13:34    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Huh what do u mean with "Yeah but you're skipping the middle segment now"

Could u translate that in dutch please? lol

I confused myself, had the Razer headset in mind instead of the Roccat. That's what I meant though; the Roccat would technically be middle segment, Razer high segment in terms of pricing. Quality wise however, I doubt the Razer is actually much better.

Still though, I'd go for a cheaper keyboard if it's the macros you're after, G15 or G110 or whatever the one at 60/70 is called. G19 just has a load of bullshit on it you'll never use Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 14:05    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
sausje wrote:
Huh what do u mean with "Yeah but you're skipping the middle segment now"

Could u translate that in dutch please? lol

I confused myself, had the Razer headset in mind instead of the Roccat. That's what I meant though; the Roccat would technically be middle segment, Razer high segment in terms of pricing. Quality wise however, I doubt the Razer is actually much better.

Still though, I'd go for a cheaper keyboard if it's the macros you're after, G15 or G110 or whatever the one at 60/70 is called. G19 just has a load of bullshit on it you'll never use Razz


yea i know that its kinda expensive for a keyboard, well not asmuch as my old one wich was 180 euros back then (http://reviews.cnet.com/keyboards/microsoft-wireless-entertainment-desktop/4505-3134_7-32015110.html)
But more or less the budget i have got, is gonna be fully spended on pc stuff. Thats why i took this keyboard instead of cheaper ones.
So unless you got another suggestion i can buy from those 50 euros lesser keyboards then go ahead Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 14:41    Post subject:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/224550/creative-x-fi-titanium.html Wink

I know you've said you don't care about sound that much, but if you're going to spend that kind of money on the headset, you might as well back it up with better audio quality Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 15:16    Post subject:
But i already got an onboard 5.1 http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2695

so is that really needed?


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 15:25    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:


Why is there a DVI with the headphones Confused Did they finally invent the 'you can SEE the SOUND' thing grinhurt grinhurt


Its not for dvi, the headsets were made to go hand in hand with their sond card so its just 1 plug to worry about if you have the sound card. Then you can leave the dongle attached to the speakers if you have them, in theory its a lot easier to manage just having to connect and unconnect 1 plug


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 19:47    Post subject:
oh... that explains a lot grinhurt


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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 19:54    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
But i already got an onboard 5.1 http://www.gigabyte.us/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2695

so is that really needed?

All onboard soundcards can do 5.1, and any motherboard manufactured in the last 18 months or so will do 7.1 (like yours). Doesn't mean the sound quality is good though, and both ASUS and Creative have some very nifty tricks on their cards and in their software to make everything sound better.

Trust me, I went with onboard sound for a long time as well, and then I bought my X-Fi last year. Noticed it straight away, sounds are much more crisp, and the bass/treble come out better.

Ultimately still up to you though, but I definitely thought it was worth it. Also because Creative's virtual surround works amazingly well on stereo headphones, can't imagine how well it works on a headset tailored for that purpose.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2010 20:06    Post subject:
@pwerelds

yea but buying a soundscard ontop of those things i will get over my budget


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 16:49    Post subject:
As for the sound quality onboard Vs Dedicated uber soundcard, their difference is like day and night... If you put some 150 euro headphones to onboard, it would be the same than putting "lets say" GTX 480 to some crap 1ghz celeron :> You will really notice sick difference on sound quality, because uber soundcards have some headphone amplifiers and stuff Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 19:31    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
As for the sound quality onboard Vs Dedicated uber soundcard, their difference is like day and night... If you put some 150 euro headphones to onboard, it would be the same than putting "lets say" GTX 480 to some crap 1ghz celeron :> You will really notice sick difference on sound quality, because uber soundcards have some headphone amplifiers and stuff Razz



This bro, I used a sound card before anything and when I switched to onboard to see if it was that big of a deal I only used it for 10 minutes before switching back


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 19:35    Post subject:
My point exactly. Save on the keyboard at least; Logitech's cheaper models do macros just the same, and shit like the LCD panel is pretty useless. Got 2 friends with a G15, and they admit that they rarely bother looking at it, because you're focused on your monitor anyway.

I also still doubt you'll use the buttons on the side of the mouse, especially if you've got macros on your keyboard. Just doesn't seem easy to use to me Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 21:31    Post subject:
Yea but my first go is for the cheaper headset anyway.

I cant spend my budget just on sound >.> my keyboard is pretty fucked and mouse almost 5/6 years old...

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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 21:36    Post subject:
I cannot recommend the stuff made by Roccat. It's very flimsy and plastic for it's price, and the quality isn't very good.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 21:43    Post subject:
no need to pay 150 on a soundcard , 60 for an asus xonar will do everything you need.
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 23:32    Post subject:
Roccat also has some shitty support. Ask epsilon how they treated him with his million dollar mouse he bought from them.


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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2010 23:39    Post subject:
Ooooo those look nice.
Do want!


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PostPosted: Sat, 26th Jun 2010 11:48    Post subject:
Paintface wrote:
no need to pay 150 on a soundcard , 60 for an asus xonar will do everything you need.

Noone ever linked him to a soundcard that expensive? Very Happy

And Sausje: read what I'm saying. I'm not suggesting that you don't buy a keyboard, I'm suggesting you buy one without all the crap you most likely won't use, same goes for the mouse. Logitech has cheaper G keyboards as well, you can pretty much save half on that.


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Example (rounded prices up a bit for shipping, but all of these are from Tweakers.net):
- X-Fi: 70
- G110 instead of G19: 60
- Naga: 65
- Kave Solid: 80
Total: 275

Same amount spent, only 1 component changed Smile

G110 doesn't have the G19's display, but it does have a USB hub built in (much more useful if you ask me), and has the same macro functionality as its big brother Smile
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