Elemental: War of Magic
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 01:48    Post subject:
Any whining is pointless till they've released the 0-day patch..
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beets




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 01:52    Post subject:
Perdurab00 wrote:
Demigod was pretty much a train wreck, and now this! Frogboy thinks he's the new Peter Molyneux or something. Is there anything about releasing bad games in the Gamer's Bill of Rights?

So glad I didn't lay down any money on this (and I was tempted to).

How does this affect Stardock's reputation?


Demigod had it's problems online but it was far from a bad game
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Perdurab00




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 02:01    Post subject:
Well, Demigod was a huge let-down to many people and never got the support that was promised. Different developer, I know.

I'm hoping for some big fixes for Elemental. But I'm still never gonna trust any of frogboy's hype again.


Epsilon: Game is great btw, I love it, so far it's a definite goty. It's remarkable how much has changed since the beta, stardock have been working their asses off, and it shows.
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locke89




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 02:35    Post subject:
How the heck can I create Armies (3 soldiers in one group)? Got the tech, can't find nowhere the option to merge 3 units in one Army.
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o22cool




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 02:50    Post subject:
I got burned by Demigod, not making the same mistake again, going try before I buy this time.
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-=Cartoon=-
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 04:19    Post subject:
lol alt tab crashes a game ??

sif buying atm
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 04:41    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
lol alt tab crashes a game ??

sif buying atm

It's supposed to be fixed in the 0 day patch.
But this thread should be a case study in how releasing too early and subsequent pirate release can reduce your potential customer numbers.
@ locke you choose the amount when you train the unit. the window at the bottom left where you can also choose the experience level.
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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 04:46    Post subject:
So far I love it.
Yep it's a little clunky feeling. But I love the modding aspect of it and i know stardock will fix it up. It's their love child.
But all the problems aside, I am still finding it to be an intriguing game.


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locke_digitalus




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 05:37    Post subject:
Haven't had a game crash on me in awhile, this sucker has crashed twice during the first few turns of the campaign. Hope they patch it.

Off to the official forums to see what the situation is / if there are any fixes.

First impressions: only played it an hour before it crashed and corrupted my save game. Art style is wonky. Interface is great in some areas, terrible in others. Designing troops is neat. Lots to learn I think. Hope this is like Master of Magic once I finally get into it, so far I dunno.


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kumkss




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 05:59    Post subject:
looks like a cute game to me. any mini review, of someone, who, for example, loves homm, civ, c&c and so?? Smile
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Big_Gun




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 06:17    Post subject:
locke_digitalus wrote:
Haven't had a game crash on me in awhile, this sucker has crashed twice during the first few turns of the campaign. Hope they patch it.

Off to the official forums to see what the situation is / if there are any fixes.

First impressions: only played it an hour before it crashed and corrupted my save game. Art style is wonky. Interface is great in some areas, terrible in others. Designing troops is neat. Lots to learn I think. Hope this is like Master of Magic once I finally get into it, so far I dunno.


hmm. I have played it several hours today without a single crash. System info in my sig.

It hasn't even crashed on me while Alt-Tabbing out of it and back... and from what i read people are having problems with that as well.

I am looking forward tot he patch tomorrow.

One thing that IS rather annoying me is the fact that there seems to be no indicator when you end turn. Seems like there should be an animated hour glass or something showing you the game is doing the AI turns. Instead, the game kinda freezes until all AI turns are done. That took some getting used to. And, IMHO, it is something that should be fixed up a bit. Some parts of the interface are certainly not very intuitive either... but I am still enjoying it and happy with the purchase. It certainly is getting me with the "one more turn" syndrome.


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locke_digitalus




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 06:23    Post subject:
I have an AMD processor, which looks like a potential culprit in my crashes. Lots of guys with "random" crashing issues are using AMD 64 bit processors. Then again, could be entirely unrelated.

Going to give this another shot, I want to like it Very Happy


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tskiller




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 06:34    Post subject:
Sorry, this game just feels unfinished to me. Another 6-12 months of development (and knowing stardock, that will happen) and we could have a really deep and interesting game here, but its just not ready as it stands.

The GUI needs to present important information about your cities and countries better, I shouldn't need to dig around menus and boxes to find out how much gold or materials i have.

And holy cow, does this ever need a tutorial! I'll keep an eye on this one, see where stardock takes it, but they really need to start releasing games that are complete instead of trying to pump em out as soon as possible. Paying customers are NOT beta testers.


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djaoni




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 06:55    Post subject:
tskiller wrote:
The GUI needs to present important information about your cities and countries better, I shouldn't need to dig around menus and boxes to find out how much gold or materials i have.


That's why materials and gold etc. are at the top of the screen..

Did you even play the game?

Guess you really do need a tutorial to point out where everything is Laughing Should also mention in the tutorial that the game isn't out and there's a 0day patch coming so people don't make stupid posts like yours as well.
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Azi




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 07:35    Post subject:
Out 1.01 patch.. Maybe SKIDROW make new crack???
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Praetori




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 07:38    Post subject:
Azi wrote:
Out 1.01 patch.. Maybe SKIDROW make new crack???


Stop asking. It's not like they read these forums.


The game feels slightly unfinished, but it should be 'done' in about two weeks or a month. In six months, you'll have one of the best 4x games ever.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 08:09    Post subject:
locke_digitalus wrote:
I have an AMD processor, which looks like a potential culprit in my crashes. Lots of guys with "random" crashing issues are using AMD 64 bit processors. Then again, could be entirely unrelated.

Going to give this another shot, I want to like it Very Happy


yeah lots of 32bit cpu's out there ^^
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csebal




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 08:56    Post subject:
Patch notes 1.01:
 Spoiler:
 
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 10:56    Post subject:
The 1.01 is btw NOT the Day 0 Patch. Which will release sometime tomorrow.
http://forums.elementalgame.com/391747
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peter980




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 11:11    Post subject:
So 1.01 is something before 0-day?
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 11:13    Post subject:
It's a -1-day patch.
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 12:02    Post subject:
I hope someone releases the patch becasue according to the patch notes it about solves everything that I could bitch about right now Very Happy


sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 12:48    Post subject:
Elemental.War.of.Magic.v1.01.Update-SKIDROW
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peter980




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 13:12    Post subject:
nice
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 13:17    Post subject:
Wow. Just wow. This game needs some serious tutorial and or decent manual Very Happy
Just played a "random" ( Wink ) map.
Started on a peninsula as Altar. Place looked nice so I settled.
Met up with Gilden and Kraxis pretty soon. Shortly after that Kraxis declared war on my because they're a bunch of douches.
Managed to settle a second town somewhat close by but that's about it.
Gilden had me completely surrounded by town by then.
Soon after that Kraxis raped my shit.
How can the ai settle so many town in such a short time? O.o
They at least had 6 settlements by the time I got my second one.
Either the map was way too small or I'm way too slow at expanding Very Happy

edit:
I just love how Skidrow titles this game a "shitty niche game" in their nfo but nonetheless release the game and it's update Laughing


sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 13:24    Post subject:
That's a quote from somewhere I believe, likely Gametrailers which was linked to (And quoted from.) earlier in the thread. Smile

I have three settlements going on the current map, level 2 in all research and a lot of buildings but I can't find any actual food so progress is a bit halted and now and then I have to train peasants and observers to assist the hero/sovereign and his hired helpers against wolves, bandits and the other factions, some dude called Janus also tried something while I was into town view and building as I got a message about a hero (him) being murdered (attacked) by me for some reason while I was building stuff, unsure what that'll lead to.
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RainyDay




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 13:27    Post subject:
Yay, cant wait to grab the patch and fix this bloody game..

I've spent about 5+ hours into the game.

Dear god it takes AGES just to discover the wonder of a steel sword.
Also i use only the autobattles - The combat is stiff and lack of scrolling is killing me. Also for all this time i still cant produce any cavalry, i have a warg den deposit but i lack the technology for it.. wtf.. what do i need , a nuclear reactor or what.. The game is very lacking - you only have you lame peasants to arm with different items & weapons & armors.. which is not bad, i love customization and unit creation, but in the end they all look the same..

Also, there is no minimap ? wtf.. but there is a strange useless camera mode - ''4''

I like the cities, especially when they are large enough - its fun to zoom in on them, now if only i had more than 10 FPS while doing that.. Currently i have about.. 15 cities and my army is unstoppable Very Happy.. well random crashes are the only force that can stop it..

Overall it feels like Civilization.. but pretty poorly made. I am pretty much disappointed. But the game still has it charms


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peter980




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 13:38    Post subject:
Is it me, or cities are big resource hog?

I'm using 4850 radeon, with Phenom II 720 and 4GB ram, on 1280x1024 resolution and when my only developed city (with several buildings) is on screen, my frame rate drops to 20. Regardless of video setting (highest possible, lowest possible) there is always frame drop to 20 when that city is on screen.
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Sauronich




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 13:40    Post subject:
It is pointless to play this game until tomorrow's patch:

1. The UI is updated to be somewhat more intuitive.
2. The campaign is significantly updated (though only for those starting fresh).
3. Resources are treated more like units. This is hard to explain but essentially the game will let you know of what resources you’re not using and how to make use of them.
4. There’s a lot of performance improvements the day 0 build, particularly for those with lower end CPUs.
5. The “day 0” AI is in it.
6. There’s been a polish pass to the spell books and tactical battles.
7. There’s been a general polish pass to the main game UI overall.
8. There’s been a lot of balancing to monsters, units, etc.


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Kyorisu




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Aug 2010 14:00    Post subject:
"Let's say I owned a taco stand and sold tacos for $1...if someone opened up a stand right across the street from my stand and sold the exact same tacos but for free, that this wouldn't have a negative effect on my business? "

Holy fail comparison batman. Man the piracy thread over on the official forums is hilarious.
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