Splinter Cell: Chaos theory thread
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bum^




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 13:18    Post subject:
bigboy177 wrote:
lAmBaDa shut the hell up...


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kachain




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 13:43    Post subject:
"Believe in Alcohol images and play or believe in Reloaded and drink alcohol"
haha, good one... this quote should be bought by Alcohol 120% developers as the main advertising slogan Smile

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This game is not ganna be cracked, who is ganna crack it? Reloaded with their onprotected .exe's or hoodlums with their stolen/not working tools. Well din't get me wrong respect for Reloaded and Hoodlum when they bring us working games but be honest Reloaded did not cracked a single starforce game. [...]

I believe this quote says all. Total agree, HeroMan.

Regards
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n00bCentral




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 14:18    Post subject:
Welp, still no sign of SC:CT (I check this thread every few days.) I had a feeling from the beginning, when talks were that it would sport SF3 protection, that we wouldn't be seeing it for a while, and we're not.

I imagine the group(s) are having a fun time w/ the new version. I think it's almost a given that w/ the Splinter Cell franchise, that it would require a more recent, updated version of SF3. I'm sure Ubi was probably like...

"You guys, we've gotta do something about the pirates! We've totally added the knife this time and the whole world will be flocking to pirate SC:PT! How about this? Let's crank the price from $50.00 to $70.00 in the stores, and spend a shit-load on a SF3 update instead of a patch next month! Are you kidding? Players wont care that it's $70.00, look how many people bought Half-Life 2 Platinum Collectors Super-Ultra Jam-Packed Mecha Uber Edition for $100.00! Plus players are stupid anyway, they probably wont even notice."


dyn IP addys, subnet & mac spoofs, email routing, and if all else fails, wi-fi. banned? lol, its more like brb. =p
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MartinW




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 14:29    Post subject:
Hey, that is a dark scenario Shocked
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koffer




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 14:33    Post subject:
...and the truth is, that both - Reloaded & Hoodlum - are currently perfectly able to remove the latest Starforce including decompiling/recompiling any VM code (of course, this doesn't mean they'd not release unprotected executables, if they got ahold of it). But appearantly most of us underestimate the amount of work necessary for every single SF crack. Removal of SF can only be automated to a certain degree and a lot of the actual cracking work still has to be done by hand (and can be quite time-consuming, i.e. a matter of weeks of hard work) by some of the most skilled individuals in this field (who do this for fun and/or "ego polishment" and usually have quite well-paid regular jobs).


Btw, I don't care, if anyone believes this, but if you've got the means to verify my statement, you'll see that it holds perfectly true.


Signing off,
koffer
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bigboy177




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 14:39    Post subject:
koffer wrote:
...and the truth is, that both - Reloaded & Hoodlum - are currently perfectly able to remove the latest Starforce including decompiling/recompiling any VM code (of course, this doesn't mean they'd not release unprotected executables, if they got ahold of it). But appearantly most of us underestimate the amount of work necessary for every single SF crack. Removal of SF can only be automated to a certain degree and a lot of the actual cracking work still has to be done by hand (and can be quite time-consuming, i.e. a matter of weeks of hard work) by some of the most skilled individuals in this field (who do this for fun and/or "ego polishment" and usually have quite well-paid regular jobs).


Btw, I don't care, if anyone believes this, but if you've got the means to verify my statement, you'll see that it holds perfectly true.


Signing off,
koffer


Yeah you are right... I've got an org version... but I still want a no-dvd patch so that I won't damage the org DVD... plus I hate putting the DVD in drive... whenever I want to play it...
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MartinW




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 14:48    Post subject:
But why they do not crack these (above mentioned) legendary titles or Splinter Cell, for example?

I cannot agree that Splinter Cell (or other titles) is less important than unknown games like Super Power, Chaos League, Street Racing Syndicate, Garfield (!) or Will of Steel. I could even vote for Splinter Cell as the loudest title this year.

Ubisoft and Codemasters still hold great uncracked games. It is a pitty that Hoodlum and Reloaded cannot do anything against it. Maybe other weird (legendary?) teams like Immersion and Ultima ("we are not a scene team") will be back..... let's hope so.


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kolor




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 14:54    Post subject:
MartinW wrote:
But why they do not crack these (above mentioned) legendary titles or Splinter Cell, for example?

I cannot agree that Splinter Cell (or other titles) is less important than unknown games like Super Power, Chaos League, Street Racing Syndicate, Garfield (!) or Will of Steel. I could even vote for Splinter Cell as the loudest title this year.

Ubisoft and Codemasters still hold great uncracked games. It is a pitty that Hoodlum and Reloaded cannot do anything against it (maybe other weird teams like Immersion and Ultima ("we are not a scene team") will be back..... hope so).


wtf? less important, much important...
they just fucking crack what they surely can crack at this moment
when they will avoid all protection checks on Splinter Cell game, they will release it
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bigboy177




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 14:59    Post subject:
HeroMan wrote:
This game is not ganna be cracked, who is ganna crack it? Reloaded with their onprotected .exe's or hoodlums with their stolen/not working tools. Well din't get me wrong respect for Reloaded and Hoodlum when they bring us working games but be honest Reloaded did not cracked a single starforce game. All the exes they use are just not protecte. They must have a source who knows a lot more about starforce or a source he can get to exes before they are starforced.

The only groups ever really cracked starforce 3 are Ultima and Immersion and Ultima only did race games so we only could count on Immersion but they are vanished?


So i guess they've also somehow got an unprotected exe from Chaos League's patch.... Man if you have to write BS.... don't write anything... Or maybe with lAmBaDa you're a SF3 dev team and you came here to whine... lol
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swebarb




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 15:28    Post subject:
I think ill go buy it tomorrow it will not be out for some time be sure of that..
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MartinW




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 15:46    Post subject:
I bought it yesterday. There are too many rumours about "Splinter Cell starforce protection" - from the beginning there was something in the air telling me to buy it.

My 2.0GHz Athlon + 512DDR + GeForce5200 gives 8fps at 800x600 with all the details turned off. Wanna screenshots?

The game ROCKS anyway! Smile

If there will be a crack/clone I use it either because I do not like to put the DVD each time I play different game.
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Selt




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 15:50    Post subject:
the clonedvd can be played with an external usb dvdrom driver. tried it myself works flawlessy.
just disable your internal cdrom with starforce nightmare, get the clonedvd 4.15gigs version, burn it with alcohol on a dvd and use a usb dvdrom drive to insert the disc and play

edit: seems that it works also with internal scsi dvd drives
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 15:59    Post subject:
hehe thats the only workaround left LOL hopefully sf developers can not fix this fast.
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MartinW




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 16:10    Post subject:
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the clonedvd can be played with an external usb dvdrom driver

Nice, but I do not have external one Sad Anyway, thank you for the information, I did not know about it.

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seems that it works also with internal scsi dvd drives

I have internal DVD-ROM (Toshiba SD-M1912). Is it "SCSI"?

Highstuff: I hope this solution will stay available because starforce nightmare devs can always update their tool! Smile
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Selt




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 16:25    Post subject:
a crack would be nice anyway
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sgtLENIN




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 16:39    Post subject:
Uh. Theres a cloneDVD?


"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." -John Carmack, iD Software
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Selt




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 16:42    Post subject:
sgtLENIN wrote:
Uh. Theres a cloneDVD?


Splinter.Cell.Chaos.Theory.DVD.Multi5 4.15 Gigs mdf+mds+installation key
used as described with a usb dvd drive it works 100%
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sgtLENIN




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 16:44    Post subject:
Selt wrote:
sgtLENIN wrote:
Uh. Theres a cloneDVD?


Splinter.Cell.Chaos.Theory.DVD.Multi5 4.15 Gigs mdf+mds+installation key
used as described with a usb dvd drive it works 100%


Thanks.

Btw, why aint this on nforce?


"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." -John Carmack, iD Software
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Selt




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 16:46    Post subject:
sgtLENIN wrote:
Selt wrote:
sgtLENIN wrote:
Uh. Theres a cloneDVD?


Splinter.Cell.Chaos.Theory.DVD.Multi5 4.15 Gigs mdf+mds+installation key
used as described with a usb dvd drive it works 100%


Thanks.

Btw, why aint this on nforce?


i guess 'cause works only for that 2-3% of people with an external dvd drive
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sgtLENIN




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 16:47    Post subject:
bleh.


"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." -John Carmack, iD Software
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 16:55    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
xAiTheHitman wrote:
Would it be torture if I said you dont know what a great game you guys are missing Laughing

If you cant wait, just get it for XBox. I'd wait though. I dont really see this game not getting released anytime soon. Usually when a game as big as Splinter Cell comes along, the big groups usually tackle it. Yea, I remember HL2. It wasnt so much the protection, but the updates. They were a pain in the ass. Remember the 5 CD release, how many people had probs with that? People ended up grabing the DVD.


Why would we get it for xbox if we couldn't wait? It's on the the PC already.


Well I'm just saying since alot of people on here will just download it anyway. Some will prolly buy it if they think its worth it.

Hey BADA, how would you exactly know what RELOADED is capable of? People are flaming you just because your ignorant to the possibility of it getting released. Thats what people want.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 17:58    Post subject:
OK, Im not askin for a source but is the sc3 clone dvd internal or something?

I have yet to see it around
Seen a million MDS files, but thats it


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Gh0UL




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 18:44    Post subject:
swebarb wrote:
I think ill go buy it tomorrow it will not be out for some time be sure of that..

posts like this make StarForce developers very happy.


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shambk




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 19:18    Post subject:
Instead of supporting starforce, wouldn't it make more sense to go to ebay and pick yourself up a dvd usb housing to get around it for like 20 bucks? That way you have it for sc3 and for other starforce games that will have this as a workaround as well. Beats supporting them doesn't it?
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kosmiq




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 20:18    Post subject:
Can you people stop whining about SF3 not cracked and all that shit.
Instead of whining, go learn cracking yourself and see how friggin easy it is.

Bet you won't be able to do CDChecks for a while, and when it comes to Safedisk, SecuROm and that shit you will be chanceless for years.
So STFU and be happy that people brings you games in one way or another.

Damn, think about it yourself. Spending hours and hours of cracking only to see people whining about it. Come on people! Give it up, be silent, be happy and play the games.

Or if you feel like, go buy the damned game and don't think about cracks.

And btw the games is really great, I'm playing it on my xbox instead of PC version. No starforce-virus coming into my computer.
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kachain




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 20:27    Post subject:
1. Why are you using so primitive words?

2. Do you really believe that crackers (the major ones) read nforce forum?
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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 20:30    Post subject:
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And btw the games is really great, I'm playing it on my xbox instead of PC version. No starforce-virus coming into my computer.


Thats what I was aiming at for the people who couldnt wait.
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swebarb




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 20:33    Post subject:
AS much as i hate starforce i cant deny SC is one of my favourite games i could sit for days playing the first one and CT looks killer with the nice maps.
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MartinW




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 20:41    Post subject:
I must admit that SCCT Starforce game-start delay is a little annoying (10 seconds here). Especially when I share my computer with brother.

I still wait for a cure Wink
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kosmiq




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2005 22:24    Post subject:
kachain wrote:
1. Why are you using so primitive words?

2. Do you really believe that crackers (the major ones) read nforce forum?


I use them because I can and will. Also a little because I am mad.

I am pretty sure that they in fact do not read nforce, but that doesn't makes it any place to whine about people knowing things that we can only dream about learning.

And this game is indeed kickass.
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