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HubU
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 Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 05:51 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Anyone found a use for snipers besides being extra eyes? If you plug someone with them it counts as unauthorized use of deadly force right? And when you are clearing a room, you really don't have time to switch to the sniper and take a shot if the perp is threatening you. |
I had a very cool experience today, while playing that Convenience Store mission.
I was clearing the right hand side (behind the register area), while the main store area was still unclear. Well, I heard a perp laughing and screaming profanities, and just as I turned to my left (to face the main area), I saw his gun raise. Aww fuck, I thought to myself. Suddenly, bang, the sniper took him out (the window the sniper looks through was broken, there was only one shot and not a burst, and suspect was dead, so I'm assuming it was the sniper as my team was mostly out of visual range of the guy). So perhaps they DO take the shot if your team is in danger, and the suspect is in their crosshairs. Anyone confirm?
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 07:34 Post subject: |
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its pretty cool that each level is never ever the same...
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xj39hollowman
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 10:16 Post subject: |
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| SigmaHex wrote: | | Summonerx wrote: | Actually I believe JHP is less lethal, but provides better stopping power. FMJ pierces the target, thus making the target lose more blood. JHP stays in the target, thus transferring all of it's kinetic energy to the target, providing more knockback or stopping power.
Thanks for the tip about sniping perps in the knees too. I'm just so used to aiming for the head whenever I'm using a sniper rifle  |
I am not sure about ingame but in real life JHPs mushroom on impact, thus causing *far* more tissue damage then a FMJ. If an FMJ goes through and through without striking an organ or anything vital it's not nearly as damaging as a JHP.
There's a reason why they make different types of bullets then just FMJs...
Read more about it on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacketed_hollow_point |
I think that's right. Not to get off-topic or anything, but a FMJ would probably go right in and out and slightly burn/cauterize the wound (probably more-so the entry wound), possibly causing less bloodlet than a JHP.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 11:54 Post subject: |
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Loading times are hardly anything compared to games like Silent Hunter 3 and Doom 3 ROE.
Plus loading a missions for the xth time is very short, only a few seconds.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 12:13 Post subject: |
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I think JHP went through the body making a clean hole and the FMJ goes in and mushrooms inside making a small entry hole but as it mushrooms you get a big hole in the back of the person, making it more damaging to the organs
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Ispep
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 12:20 Post subject: |
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Game is alright.
It's not really an advancement though - it's basically a stripped down SWAT3 - and back in the day SWAT3 was the daddy. It had it's faults, shortcomings and was essentially a tactical shooter - but SWAT4... I dunno - it just seems even more of a shooter, only equally slow. There doesn't seem to be much time for interesting tactics or strategy and the artificial intelligence is not as robust as in the original (no matter how many people tout the AI as it's selling point, after playing SWAT3 and coming to this you will be without any doubt as to which projects the best impression realistically).
The audio is a mish-mash too, you find you can't hear anything because of all the compliance commands and it dins out radio transmissions, and theres this stupid atmosphere music track in the background you can't turn off...
Maps are uninspired, we've seen just as good, if not better in the original SWAT3.
Maybe those who never got around to enjoying SWAT3 are enjoying this, and fair play, but those of us who did play SWAT3 repetitively will quite likely find this to be actually pretty dull in the long run.
So just so we are clear - it's basically a stripped down SWAT3 with no real improvements beyond the graphical. They could of done so much more, but instead we get this after all the wait. Quite disappointing really.
I guess Multiplayer is 'where its at' - but the original had an engrossing singleplayer campaign and levels that you replayed time and time again AS WELL as a freely available for download addon/patch that enabled Multiplayer.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 12:30 Post subject: |
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i was disapointed they didnt put in shields and batteringrams as it was promised first.
I feel the game is lacking a whole lot, and yeah SWAT3 is still better than this, though SWAT4 is entertaining for a while it doest get as good as SWAT3.
I would love it if you could choose entry anywhere in the buildings like entering windows, by air, rapelling etc. it would make it a whole lot more interesing to choose where you would want to enter rather than a few doors here and there.
but mostly missed is the batteringrams and shields imo
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 12:54 Post subject: |
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| goot wrote: | Loading times are hardly anything compared to games like Silent Hunter 3 and Doom 3 ROE.
Plus loading a missions for the xth time is very short, only a few seconds. |
Ok so I must have a disk fragmentation problem because its really
much more than a few seconds in my case :/
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 12:59 Post subject: |
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| Vulture wrote: | You CAN disable the music in the audio options 
The game must be a blast in multiplayer. |
You can't disable the atmospheric 'music' track though, only the proper music that plays in action sequences.
Atmospheric track is somehow linked to the sound volume, not music volume. |
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 13:16 Post subject: |
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| Vulture wrote: | Swat4 is great, but Swat3 has a smoother gameplay imho.
Mainly because the graphical commands menu, in Swat3 you pressed the Tab-button and then a number. Much faster and better then the menu they implemented right now. It's sometimes difficult to choose a command very fast.
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I wished they added the voice command feature like the games on console
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vurt
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 13:41 Post subject: |
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| Kommando wrote: |
I wished they added the voice command feature like the games on console |
All games can be played using voice commands, i played most games using Game Commander a few years back (SWAT 3 for example). It worked flawlessly. Im sure there are even better programs or an upgraded/better version of Game Commander nowadays.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 13:51 Post subject: |
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the more i play this game the more :/ i feel
It is a good game.. no doubt... BUT it feels so unfinished....
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 17:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 18:12 Post subject: |
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If anyone is unhappy with the way single player goes, you can change it. There's a million .ini files in content\system\ folder. You can change those as you like. For example,
1) Change SwatEquipment.ini and adjust the rate with which crosshairs refocus when you stop, or how much they get spread out when you run. Or you can adjust that crazy recoil bumping the gun up on full auto.
2) Change how much penalty points the game gives you for Unauthorized Use of Deadly Force in Leadership.ini
3) Prevent your swat teammates from being completely shot up to bits on "Move and Clear" command by increasing their peripheral vision angle in Ai.ini.
The possibilites are endless.
Also, load up SwatEd editor and open content\textures\Hud.utx. Find a texture named "centerreticle", right click and rename it to something else. Now find big red cross texture (developer reticle or something like that), right click and duplicated, name it "centerreticle". Save Hud.utx. Now you have a nice bright red dot at the center of crosshairs, and you can actually see where you are amining with flashlight on in bright rooms.
Cheers.
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 18:20 Post subject: |
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christ, turn down the gamma
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| Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2005 18:32 Post subject: |
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