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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 02:02    Post subject:
nzd though, so its probably about 130 usd i think... and yeah i know, i could buy like 3 games for that price easily, but witcher 2 is worth about 10 current-day games, so i still come out on top Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 02:09    Post subject:
Yeah, unfortunately there aren't many promising RPGs in the next months (DA2 looks rather meh so far and Arcania's expansion..well it will be a joke like the main game Laughing )
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 02:17    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
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Embarassed

Especially after the sarcastic tone and the dead giveaway in the spoiler.


Shut up cuntnatan! Cuntsilon was right to ban me!

.... seriously, I was just kidding. I said that Dead Space was a fucking simulator Laughing How could you take ANY of that post serious? Laughing

btw, the first line of this post is sarcasm too.. no hate <3

@Dragon Age 2:
Never played the first one, but the graphics on this game look HORRIBLE! The animations, cutscenes and the characters too. Looks like a very cheap hack & slay. Why does Mass Effect look 10 times better than this?

Regarding the gameplay: It's obvious that it's not finished and the guy playing it MUST be doing so on the easiest setting.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 02:34    Post subject:
I looked up how much DLC this game has and holy hell. It's 21 total!
This crap is getting outta hand. Most of it is even item crap.

Only the extra team mate and black emporium are even remotely interesting. It was to be expected cause all DA:O DLC was shit exept Shale.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 03:03    Post subject:
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Never played the first one, but the graphics on this game look HORRIBLE! The animations, cutscenes and the characters too. Looks like a very cheap hack & slay. Why does Mass Effect look 10 times better than this?


Apples and Oranges. This argument gets brought up over and over. It's the same reason Metal Gear Solid looks worlds better than Oblivion - different resource requirements. For the TYPE of game Dragon Age is, theres no way you're going to be pushing top of the lines graphics (and realistically there is no reason to).


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 04:37    Post subject:
http://dragonage.bioware.com/da2/demo/ Posted?

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February 22, 2011 marks the launch of the Dragon Age II Demo and a Call to Arms for all BioWare fans. We are actively recruiting an army of Champions, and if we get over 1 million demo downloads and logins on the PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 combined before March 1st, we will unlock two in-game items for the entire community to use in Dragon Age II. Demo download progress will be tracked on this page, so check back often!


Amazing! The number of times the demo will be downloaded unlocks DLC in the full game... EA is truly the industry's innovation leader lol wut


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 04:42    Post subject:
shit me that sounds fucking stupid.

if the items are GOOD, why lock them up? if the items are overpowered badass ones, then who wants that to ruin their game? if the items are meh and will be replaced by the player in the first couple of levels, then why bother.

no.. if ur gonna do something like THAT, bioware should go large.. like, say, the first dlc based new quest (doesnt have to be a big one) that they were going to sell for 2 bucks, would become FREE if they hit a million downloads.

but this unlocking items that are ALL READY IN THE FUCKING GAME if enough DEMOS are fucking download, is just weak, bioware. really really weak.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 10:53    Post subject:
fucking ea, when will you die so I can dance the happy step?
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 12:00    Post subject:
After watching the videos, apart from the 1st one where the Dwarf is deliberately exaggerating Hawk's power, its almost the same play style as DA O, at least combat wise.

The dev's have said that the demos tended to showcase the easy difficulty setting, or story mode, where the player has it easy, i hope that the higher ones provide more demanding gameplay.

Regarding the graphics, i like the new armor models, but the scenery left a lot to be desired, very drab, brown colors. The screenshots from the technical post on the bioware blog, look more varied.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 12:33    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
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February 22, 2011 marks the launch of the Dragon Age II Demo and a Call to Arms for all BioWare fans. We are actively recruiting an army of Champions, and if we get over 1 million demo downloads and logins on the PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 combined before March 1st, we will unlock two in-game items for the entire community to use in Dragon Age II. Demo download progress will be tracked on this page, so check back often!


There is more, says Mr. Priestly:
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And don’t forget, anyone who completes the demo will get the in-game item Hayden’s Razor.


You do not only have to download the shitty demo, you have to suffer through it completely to get... wow... another item.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 12:58    Post subject:
OLime wrote:
consolitis wrote:
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February 22, 2011 marks the launch of the Dragon Age II Demo and a Call to Arms for all BioWare fans. We are actively recruiting an army of Champions, and if we get over 1 million demo downloads and logins on the PC, Xbox 360 and PS3 combined before March 1st, we will unlock two in-game items for the entire community to use in Dragon Age II. Demo download progress will be tracked on this page, so check back often!


There is more, says Mr. Priestly:
Quote:
And don’t forget, anyone who completes the demo will get the in-game item Hayden’s Razor.


You do not only have to download the shitty demo, you have to suffer through it completely to get... wow... another item.


if u think the game is shitty then why bother completing the demo to get an item in a game u won't play . contradict much
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 13:50    Post subject:
According to a post by Priestly on the official forums, that demo in the vids isn't the actual "official" demo coming out on the 22nd, but a copy of the older demo they were showing back at the various game expos last year. Sounds like a load of PR horse shit to me - I suspect the public demo (and the retail game) to be identical.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 14:02    Post subject:
The Witcher 2:



Dragon Age 2



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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 14:58    Post subject:
fable2 wrote:
if u think the game is shitty then why bother completing the demo to get an item in a game u won't play . contradict much


Apparently I got misunderstood. I am worried I might like the game like I did DA:O. Still, I will play DA2, and as the only thing I have seen right now are sreenshots and a few vids, it is too early for me to already pass jugdment on DA2.

What I do not want is to have to play through some demo beforehand just for a single item. What do they want to achiceve with rewarding people playing through it? Are they not that conviced enough by their demo?
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 15:06    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
The Witcher 2:


Laughing


how retarded is to compare a pcexclusive so far with a console port
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 15:22    Post subject:
I love the clothes details on witcher 2.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 15:26    Post subject:
OLime wrote:
fable2 wrote:
if u think the game is shitty then why bother completing the demo to get an item in a game u won't play . contradict much


Apparently I got misunderstood. I am worried I might like the game like I did DA:O. Still, I will play DA2, and as the only thing I have seen right now are sreenshots and a few vids, it is too early for me to already pass jugdment on DA2.

What I do not want is to have to play through some demo beforehand just for a single item. What do they want to achiceve with rewarding people playing through it? Are they not that conviced enough by their demo?


ask EA .

but hey if they think that their demo can get a million downloads then they probably have confidence in their product regardless of awarded items or not
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 20:01    Post subject:
http://uk.kotaku.com/5764293/dragon-age-ii-definitely-not-as-dumbed-down-as-mass-effect

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I was playing on "casual," the game's lowest difficulty. I'd configured no tactics. I wasn't even carefully managing my allies' health. These were stupid moves. The wraith killed all my guys, then killed me.

That was dumb. Dragon Age II is not.




Dont know how someone can die playing on 'Casual' and say "I'd configured no tactics" as an excuse, even if the game is not dumbed down and it's the same as DA:O... you don't need them.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 20:13    Post subject:
He must be lying, game's gonna be shit.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 20:28    Post subject:
Dragon.Age.2.Demo.GERMAN-BIOWARE

lol Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 20:47    Post subject:
wingR wrote:
http://uk.kotaku.com/5764293/dragon-age-ii-definitely-not-as-dumbed-down-as-mass-effect

kotaku wrote:
I was playing on "casual," the game's lowest difficulty. I'd configured no tactics. I wasn't even carefully managing my allies' health. These were stupid moves. The wraith killed all my guys, then killed me.

That was dumb. Dragon Age II is not.




Dont know how someone can die playing on 'Casual' and say "I'd configured no tactics" as an excuse, even if the game is not dumbed down and it's the same as DA:O... you don't need them.

this has that familiar aroma of bull defecation xD dude has to be really incompetent to fail on that game-mode... i'd imagine the difficulty would be right along side 2008's prince of persia.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 20:51    Post subject:
vespa wrote:
Dragon.Age.2.Demo.GERMAN-BIOWARE

lol Razz


somehow i doubt that there are region specific versions of the demo, i'll grab it and check if it's multilanguage Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 20:54    Post subject:
Never used the tactics menu in DA:O, I prefered to pause and think and then give orders to the characters manually. While pausing the action might seem annoying, giving the right set of orders to individual characters was the only way to survive at higher difficulties.
Not to mention extremely gratifying and rewarding.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 20:59    Post subject:
murgo wrote:
somehow i doubt that there are region specific versions of the demo, i'll grab it and check if it's multilanguage Smile

If it's around 2gb then it's only one language.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 21:05    Post subject:
Glad I studied a bit of german. Downloading.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 21:07    Post subject:
vespa wrote:
Dragon.Age.2.Demo.GERMAN-BIOWARE

lol Razz

Can we please put this back into the vip ftp nfohump server box it came from?
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 21:09    Post subject:
fuckin german Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 21:10    Post subject:
vespa wrote:
murgo wrote:
somehow i doubt that there are region specific versions of the demo, i'll grab it and check if it's multilanguage Smile

If it's around 2gb then it's only one language.


yeah, xrel.to says 3300mb though. i just hope it's in english as well, can't stand german voiceovers..
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Feb 2011 21:12    Post subject:
wingR wrote:
http://uk.kotaku.com/5764293/dragon-age-ii-definitely-not-as-dumbed-down-as-mass-effect

kotaku wrote:
I was playing on "casual," the game's lowest difficulty. I'd configured no tactics. I wasn't even carefully managing my allies' health. These were stupid moves. The wraith killed all my guys, then killed me.

That was dumb. Dragon Age II is not.




Dont know how someone can die playing on 'Casual' and say "I'd configured no tactics" as an excuse, even if the game is not dumbed down and it's the same as DA:O... you don't need them.


The guy who wrote that article, is a complete dumbass. We, older gamers, have every reason to worry. Just because he failed at Casual, does not mean the game is hard, it means he's pretty stupid.

My fav part though:

"Two days ago, after watching some fast combat in Dragon Age II, I found myself staring at a menu screen in Dragon Age II. What I saw was not simple and certainly not over-simplified. What I saw was something that might stress a Mass Effect player, that might sail over their head."

While the statement regarding ME players is true Smile I think DA2 is oversimplified. Although, its's true, that they have almost the same number of activable abilities, very very many of them are now passive or upgrades. All in all, than means considerably less buttons for derps to understand.

The other problem is, they hype the skill trees as actually being superior, but anyone with two brain cells can understand it is more limiting, than the system we had before

Each category had 3 or mostly 4 lines in them in DA1. In DA2 we have a tree, an in the best case I have seen, each level of the has twice as many skills on it as the last level. That equates to having less of a choice - as in, you don't have as many combinations of taking skills within a category, as you had in DA1.

All in all, it IS dumbed down. Thank you, moron gamers. Thank you illiterates ... etc...
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