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 Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:38 Post subject: I'd kill for a proper Matrix game |
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Like I said, I'd kill for it. An open world game, where perhaps stealth would be most important, otherwise you get agents on you. I know there were three matrix games even, but none of them captured the feeling, yet I think this IP could be grand for a good single player stealth RPG of some sort. I still need to think out the details, but I'd pay 100$ easy for a good Matrix game.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:38 Post subject: |
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Depends on who you would kill.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:40 Post subject: Re: I'd kill for a proper Matrix game |
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| Radicalus wrote: | | but I'd pay 100$ easy for a good Matrix game. |
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:40 Post subject: |
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Sadly the Matrix IP is dead. 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:41 Post subject: |
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I enjoyed that "path of neo" game, had decent combat.
Also liked Matrix Online (!GASP!) when they had free-offers, too bad it was shut down.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:41 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Sadly the Matrix IP is dead. :( |
arent 2 new movies coming? that'd definitely revive it and give rise to a new game... or 5.
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:42 Post subject: |
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| Surray wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Sadly the Matrix IP is dead. |
arent 2 new movies coming? that'd definitely revive it and give rise to a new game... or 5. |
No.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:44 Post subject: |
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too bad.
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:46 Post subject: |
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I guess you haven't watched the first three yet?
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:47 Post subject: |
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It's very hard to achieve what you're asking for (an underpified open world game with proper stealth mechanics and the intact Matrix atmosphere), especially today, with the "awesome button" generation and derps everywhere.
(On a side note, It's not Matrix, but Batman Arkham City kinda looks similar to this "concept", let's hope it will turn out as good as it sounds.)
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:51 Post subject: |
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Nah, I don't want new matrix films (this soon) because they would ruin the trilogy. However there are so many other ways to keep the IP alive (comics, games, TV series, books, etc etc) but WB isn't interested at all it seems. Even the official website: http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/ which was considered innovative back in the day has been removed.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:52 Post subject: |
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It had the setting to be the coolest pc game ever based on a movie, why it didn't I don't know.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:53 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: |
Nah, I don't want new matrix films (this soon) because they would ruin the first one even more. |
Fixed.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:54 Post subject: |
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It's probably all for the best... if it came out now it'd probably be console only where 'something awesome happens every time you press any button'....
Likot Mosuskekim, Woodcutter cancels Sleep: Interrupted by Elephant.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 16:06 Post subject: |
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| dsergei wrote: | | consolitis wrote: |
Nah, I don't want new matrix films (this soon) because they would ruin the first one even more. |
Fixed. |
They are not that bad, it's just that they were rushed into production to shoot both of them ASAP together. If you read the earlier 1996 & 1997 drafts of the original Matrix and finally the 1998 shooting script you'll find out that while the core storyline remained the same each newer revision improved significantly the dialogue, characterization, etc. Also note that there are even earlier drafts (which aren't publicly available though) from 1994..
That didn't happen with the sequels that were released in 2003 but had their scripts written in 2000-2001, directly after the original was released mid-1999, with no chance to improve them again and again over time. But the core of the plot is good IMO.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 16:10 Post subject: |
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I played the HalfLife mod a bit, that was fun
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:15 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | dsergei wrote: | | consolitis wrote: |
Nah, I don't want new matrix films (this soon) because they would ruin the first one even more. |
Fixed. |
They are not that bad, it's just that they were rushed into production to shoot both of them ASAP together. If you read the earlier 1996 & 1997 drafts of the original Matrix and finally the 1998 shooting script you'll find out that while the core storyline remained the same each newer revision improved significantly the dialogue, characterization, etc. Also note that there are even earlier drafts (which aren't publicly available though) from 1994..
That didn't happen with the sequels that were released in 2003 but had their scripts written in 2000-2001, directly after the original was released mid-1999, with no chance to improve them again and again over time. But the core of the plot is good IMO. |
I think Reloaded was pretty good, the talk with the Architect, I didn't see that coming, it seemed like a pretty good twist and believable.
Revolutions is where the problems were, too much "real word" action, too little matrix philosophy.
The thing that redeemed it for me though, was that this time around, humanity in Zion was able to remain free, not only because of love (the trivial answer to the movie) - but because of Agent Smith, and the bargaining chip he became for Neo vs. The Source. That part was brilliant.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:31 Post subject: |
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Well, I too am glad that there was no Blade Runner trilogy.
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:32 Post subject: |
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I agree that it was a mistake to make Revolutions take place in the real world for the most part of the movie. But the sequels definitely had moments of brilliance and some great new characters.
The Oracle scenes were great IMO in both films, even though Revolutions had a new actress. The Architect scene was well.. perfect. The Merovingian scenes were great in both films. Bane in Revolutions? Fucking awesome! The Deus Ex Machina encounter was great as well.
But there were many other characters introduced that were pretty weak/pointless.. The Kid, the Trainman, Persephone, Charra.. meh...
I don't mind the so called "lack of answers" in the third movie, I believe it answered what had to be answered in its own way (mostly via its visual language and symbolism).
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:38 Post subject: |
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oh god no .
why ruin such a masterpiece buy mainstreaming it and introducing it to a much shallower audience
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:46 Post subject: |
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| fable2 wrote: |
oh god no .
why ruin such a masterpiece buy mainstreaming it and introducing it to a much shallower audience |
At least they want Nolan instead of say.. Michael Bay to direct it.. Nolan has made some great mainstream (Batman, etc) and non-mainstream (Memento, Following) movies.. http://www.movieweb.com/news/christopher-nolan-wanted-for-blade-runner-sequel-or-prequel
There's still some hope 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:50 Post subject: |
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Now where is Christopher Nolan
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:51 Post subject: |
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Nolan would be the only one able to save Blade Runner's sequels from the inevitable fail 
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:53 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | Nolan would be the only one able to save Blade Runner's sequels from the inevitable fail |
True. Sadly, not even Scott himself would do a proper job these days. |
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:55 Post subject: |
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| fable2 wrote: | | yeah i guess but still a newer audience wouldn't appreciate a perfect sequel for this movie (if made) |
It's not like Blade Runner was universally appreciated when it was released.. It was called slow, with weak plot, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade_Runner#Reception
The Wachowskis have actually said about BR:
| Quote: | Q: Any influence from Blade Runner?
WachowskiBros: Blade Runner was a benchmark science fiction film, a masterpiece. Of course there's influence. But we were like the only guys who liked that movie when we saw it, everyone else hated it. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 18:02 Post subject: |
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but in time it gathered more and more fans . sadly i don't think bringing a sequel would broader the fan base
instead it would just a good movie that came out some year
BR as a singular movie has more charm than the sequel would be .
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 18:03 Post subject: |
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Blade Runner was definitely too cutting-edge and innovative for those times, people were probably expecting the typical action-oriented Sci-fi movie with tons of explosions...I mean, it's not like today...oh wait.
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