Operation Flashpoint: Red River
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Cyborgmatt




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 04:14    Post subject:
Sion Lenton, executive producer said this:
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We asked Sion about that decision to move even further away from the series roots with the follow-up: “We want to steer away from the idea that it’s a simulation; we’ve banned the word in the studio. Authentic is fine, as it gives you some leeway to be creative, and that’s what we are. We’re creative, we’re making an entertainment product, and it should be fun. I don’t really get much fun out of military simulations. They’re immersive, they’re realistic, but I wouldn’t call them fun.

What a lol wut tbh, maybe they shouldn't have stole the name off BI then.
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 04:57    Post subject:
Dumb shit tbh.

Realistic = Fun.
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Interinactive
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 05:42    Post subject:
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randir14




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 06:15    Post subject:
Sounds like a Bulletstorm version of middle east issues.
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SpiderJerusalem




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 06:22    Post subject:
Wow. The squad AI is so awful. They kept getting themselves killed in the second defend mission because, no matter what I told them to do, they insisted on standing out in the open and getting shot. A bunch.
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 07:08    Post subject:
Cyborgmatt wrote:
Sion Lenton, executive producer said this:
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We asked Sion about that decision to move even further away from the series roots with the follow-up: “We want to steer away from the idea that it’s a simulation; we’ve banned the word in the studio. Authentic is fine, as it gives you some leeway to be creative, and that’s what we are. We’re creative, we’re making an entertainment product, and it should be fun. I don’t really get much fun out of military simulations. They’re immersive, they’re realistic, but I wouldn’t call them fun.

What a lol wut tbh, maybe they shouldn't have stole the name off BI then.


Well, that would make sense if they stole *anything* from Bohemia. Bohemia licensed the GAME to Codemasters. The trademarked NAME belonged to Codemasters and not Bohemia.

They fucked up trying to claim OFP:DR was a "sim" and admitted that which is why they tried to get away from the word "sim" this time around. Clearly, the game isn't designed for someone like you. Jesus Christ there are a bunch of fucking crybabies here that whine about every little thing. It's getting hard to pick useful information out of these forums anymore.

And, for the record, I'm not defending DR or this new game either. This one is clunky as shit just like DR was.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 07:44    Post subject:
Seems it's not just a quick port, haven't actually played it yet though but set some of the options and similar.

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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 07:57    Post subject:
damn, no easy option Cool Face
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 07:59    Post subject:
Heh, well I'm sure there's a difficulty level also, somewhere. Very Happy
(Not that the AI seems that advanced based on these other posts in this thread.)

Ten missions based on the videos available, easy to get rid of those logos as well, all of them seems to be in the same style as the intro so a bit semi-offensive to some individuals perhaps?
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 08:40    Post subject:
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ClaudeFTW




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 08:47    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
By far the dumbest most immature idiotic dialogue in a game I have ever come across.



The very reason I uninstalled it. That black guy said fuck in the intro more times than Grayson during the whole Bulletstorm. It's just making my ears bleed.

Game looks like ass. A hairy, fat chick ass. The only thing that it has going are the anamorphic lens flares and those are uverused.

Dumb teammate AI.

Even dumber enemy dialogue. I was hugging a wall and on the other side there was a...whatever those enemies were and he said something, it sounded like they paid their Iranian neighbor a few bucks and put a microphone on a table in an empty kitchen to record.
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pikachupi




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 09:48    Post subject:
seriously it is sad...people are waiting for product with fine history and getting crap right in the face:(
insted of going forward, some developers going backward and situations like this makes piracy stronger cause imagine you pre order it...
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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 11:08    Post subject:
Jeez, who wrote that script?? The Squadleader is a stereotypical black guy wannabe gangster hardass, him talking alone all the time is soooo annoying. And whats up with the "Broisms" throughout? Only played 30 mins, but thats the first thing that pissed me off.
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 11:35    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
By far the dumbest most immature idiotic dialogue in a game I have ever come across.

Couldn't agree more. It's also a tad irritating.
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 12:10    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
By far the dumbest most immature idiotic dialogue in a game I have ever come across.



Yeah, once you see the intro, you understand what the game's about. I couldn't even play because of how retarded everything was, after about 5 minutes in the actuall game it was: "I fucking quit!".
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 12:28    Post subject:
I agree with everyone here, I've just completed the first two missions and the game is much worse than expected (not that I was expecting a good game Laughing).
Gameplay-wise is very linear, there are no tactics involved except for the usual advance->shoot at everything that moves, the controls feel weird (low fov+annoying mouse acceleration) and the AI is definitely stupid. Not to mention the bad graphics, especially the textures, which come directly from the PS2 era and are stuffed by an exaggerate amount of Nextgen™ bloom.

As for the plot/dialogues/characters in the game:

Meh Laughing



Random creations of an insane mind / Screens from Bulgaria [Early Access]


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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 12:32    Post subject:
- USA is dominate!!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 13:08    Post subject:
pikachupi wrote:
seriously it is sad...people are waiting for product with fine history and getting crap right in the face:(
insted of going forward, some developers going backward and situations like this makes piracy stronger cause imagine you pre order it...

I for one sure as hell aint buying it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:03    Post subject:
http://community.codemasters.com/forum/general-discussion-1335/462142-operation-flashpoint-red-river-day-1-patch-notes-pc.html#post7026204

Patch details, already have it somehow (Patch1 folder in the game, had it pre-ordered, I really should keep better track of what I order now and then.) but it would likely need a new crack unless it's included in Reloaded's release as well.
(Unsure if they took the retail version or the download version, if it's the previous clone release they used as a source it's likely unpatched.)

EDIT: Direct changelog.

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Graphical improvements
The advanced options heading now displays for older graphics cards
Occlusion culling is now turned off on high end PCs for enhanced graphical performance
Graphical corruption on the Radeon x1900 series of cards is no longer present
It is now possible to select resolutions above 1280x1024 with Xfire enabled on Radeon 5870 graphics cards, (eyefinity edition)
Turning the resolution down from the highest available setting and then back up, no longer changes the display to windowed mode

PC controls input improvements
Confirming duplicate button selection with the "Return" key now functions correctly
Pressing "Escape" from the Controller Options screen no longer attempts to take you back two menus to the main Options menu
The "Sign in status changed" dialog box now has mouse functionality
The SMAW weapon can now be picked up if the player pushes the Mouse Wheel during the Re load animation

Improvements to messaging
In the game lobby the "Invite Friends" tooltip is no longer present if the lobby is full
The Game Menu tooltip is now visible on the Spectator screen when in 800x600 resolution
Client ALT-Tabbing while loading now gives correct error message

Stability improvements
We have significantly improved the stability when the game is played over extended periods of time
Fixed a rare client hang when the Co-op host would Load or Restart the "Breakthough" FTE mission
Signing in and out multiple times on the front end no longer causes a hang
Fixed an issue to prevent clients crashing on loading if host team kills another client in game multiple times

Mission logic
It is no longer possible to avoid a trigger zone in Mission 8
Experienced difficulty is now triggering the correct checkpoints
Improvements have been made to Mission 2 logic to improve experience
Mission 8 - Players no longer get run over by a Humvee when they arrive at the 5th squad objective "Capture the first tier of the town"
Save/load improvements
The Campaign Mission checkpoint is no longer lost when players quit and return from a completed FTE mission
A Humvee destroyed with player in gunner seat now renders correctly after loading last checkpoint
The Type 2004 Missile will no longer appear loaded after loading last checkpoint if the player is out of ammo/missiles
Mines placed before checkpoint will no longer kill friendly units after loading last checkpoint
Various checkpoint fixes in Mission 7

OSD improvements
"Start/stop convoy" OSD is no longer visible in non-Rolling Thunder FTEs
Player damage and bleed out meter is now displayed correctly after loading last checkpoint
“Game is not paused in Cooperative mode" text no longer constantly appears
Clients no longer appear to have 16 Mags of ammo when using an ammo box to refill
The “Open Lobby” tooltip no longer remains on the client's screen when the mission is completed or failed
Viewing team mates down the scope for too long no longer results in icons staying glued to the scope
Squad leader markers no longer become stuck on the thermal scope screen
Networking improvements
Clients no longer see dead enemies floating above the school when killed from a distance in Mission 2
The client's camera no longer gets locked to a fixed position when the host restarts the session
Incapacitated players no longer move sporadically on client machine

Audio improvements
Audio optimisations made to prevent audio dropout
New audio mixes for the Humvee and helicopters have been included
Animations improvements
Reload system – players no longer reload empty “splash” (SMAW, FGM-148, PF98) weapons
Clients will always play their correct walk/run animations and can no longer be seen to be surfing across the terrain
Shooting a group of enemies with a grenade launcher no longer leaves an enemy floating in the air


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tonizito
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:12    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
By far the dumbest most immature idiotic dialogue in a game I have ever come across.


Hey Interinactive:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-04-21-operation-flashpoint-red-river-review?page=2

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At its best, Red River surpasses Ubisoft's original Ghost Recons for squad-based tactical play.


So... is it true? Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:14    Post subject:
Reviewer is just another console derp tbh.

The game is awful.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:14    Post subject:
I guess they mean some of the mechanics (Which I find doubtful, there isn't that much available compared to say ArmA - which might be a bit extreme comparison perhaps.), or maybe they do see it as original = Advanced Warfighter. (3rd person action game console edition.)
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fable2




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:17    Post subject:
what's with the huge performance hit when enabling AA . anyone got that?
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:17    Post subject:
Ran pretty allright for me. (As it should, since the game looks like ass)
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fable2




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:20    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Ran pretty allright for me. (As it should, since the game looks like ass)


try comparing it's textures with Arma's . no comparison at all

Arma at least has a reason for running slow on my machine . this i don't know why
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:30    Post subject:
A couple of screens at high settings (except for the AA off):



@tonizito: the usual game journos, nothing less nothing more Laughing

The most irritating thing in this game is the teammates AI, which is totally unresponsive and the soldiers are frequently bad positioned. If you add that the tactical elements are almost nonexistent (DR was better from this point of view), we can safely label this game as FAiL.

I don't know what Codemasters was thinking with this hybrid, but Red River will be probably hated by both the CoD fans and ArmA fans equally. Laughing
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H4wkeye




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:32    Post subject:
fable2 wrote:
dezztroy wrote:
Ran pretty allright for me. (As it should, since the game looks like ass)


try comparing it's textures with Arma's . no comparison at all

Arma at least has a reason for running slow on my machine . this i don't know why


Also, try pulling this shit off in Operation Flashpoint Cool Face

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human_steel




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:33    Post subject:
Most irritating thing is the dialogue. Period. Teammates' AI can be jumped over but not the compilation of words the black sergeant throws out every time a mission starts off or ends. Fucking piece of shit writers.
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Maus0r




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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:36    Post subject:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-04-21-operation-flashpoint-red-river-review

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While the AI is certainly improved from Dragon Rising, you'll still need to pay close attention not to direct teammates into dangerous situations as they'll follow orders without question and often pay the ultimate price for it. The removal of tight time limits removes much of the irritation of the first game but even so, players approaching Red River as a tactical shooter couched in an engaging story will get the most from it.

At its best, Red River surpasses Ubisoft's original Ghost Recons for squad-based tactical play. But it's the presentation of the story – not the broad-canvas story, but the story of four marines and their staff sergeant – that marks it out as something new. We still may be some way from the bite and nuance of Generation Kill, but in communicating the camaraderie, banter, fear and glory of modern warfare in the Middle East, nothing can touch this.


8/10... are you fucking kidding me? They did review the Xbox 360 version though.

* Edit* Beaten to it, but still, it beggars belief.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Apr 2011 15:47    Post subject:
Btw, do GFWL keys work on this game? Cool Face Can I use my spare Kane and Lynch key? Cool Face
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