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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 14:08 Post subject: |
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Mussolinka wrote: | So the game is basically an online tdm battlefront style with proper campaign? + persistent characters? |
I'm not familiar with battlefront...but it's not deathmatch. it's objective based.
One team attacks, the other defends.
example of maps:
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attacking team must complete one obj to continue to the other etc and the defending team must stop them.
maps are all tied into a story with cutscenes and all so you can play with AI if u want. but MP is the main shit.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 14:20 Post subject: |
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He probably doesn't even know he is trolling
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 14:25 Post subject: |
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acRon_ wrote: | He probably doesn't even know he is trolling |
Oh he knows all right...
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 14:31 Post subject: |
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yep, good intuition, Sabin.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 14:32 Post subject: |
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Yea pre-load !
The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 14:35 Post subject: |
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sabin1981 wrote: | acRon_ wrote: | He probably doesn't even know he is trolling |
Oh he knows all right... | You're a fucking idiot
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 15:34 Post subject: |
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IamAWESOME wrote: | What about this ?
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Someone at splash damage screwed up the preload files pretty big: they included the pdb files, which are unnecessarily large debugging files that can be used to pretty much recreate the source code.
Here's hoping that slip up is fixed before release and cheaters can't use the information inside those files to create cheats easier...[/spoiler]
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NFOAC
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 15:49 Post subject: |
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Seems like I'll get the PC version
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 15:53 Post subject: |
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^So it cannot be extracted using phoenix ?
The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 16:04 Post subject: |
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madness wrote: | Mussolinka wrote: | So the game is basically an online tdm battlefront style with proper campaign? + persistent characters? |
I'm not familiar with battlefront...but it's not deathmatch. it's objective based.
One team attacks, the other defends.
example of maps:
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attacking team must complete one obj to continue to the other etc and the defending team must stop them.
maps are all tied into a story with cutscenes and all so you can play with AI if u want. but MP is the main shit. |
In a nutshell: it's TF2.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 16:05 Post subject: |
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Lafie wrote: | IamAWESOME wrote: | What about this ?
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Someone at splash damage screwed up the preload files pretty big: they included the pdb files, which are unnecessarily large debugging files that can be used to pretty much recreate the source code.
Here's hoping that slip up is fixed before release and cheaters can't use the information inside those files to create cheats easier...[/spoiler] |
Every time something remotely related to source code gets leaked, someone cries about cheaters. People are going to cheat regardless if the source code was available or not. It doesn't make a bit of difference.
(and, no, as far as I know you cannot recreate the source code with a .pdb file)
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 16:41 Post subject: |
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Werelds wrote: | madness wrote: | Mussolinka wrote: | So the game is basically an online tdm battlefront style with proper campaign? + persistent characters? |
I'm not familiar with battlefront...but it's not deathmatch. it's objective based.
One team attacks, the other defends.
example of maps:
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attacking team must complete one obj to continue to the other etc and the defending team must stop them.
maps are all tied into a story with cutscenes and all so you can play with AI if u want. but MP is the main shit. |
In a nutshell: it's TF2. |
TF2 is a great game, skill based, teamwork requiring, very good design ...etc. Love it. Brink has a lot to achieve before I call it TF2 in a nutshell.
For starters, many TF2 classes are high speed twitch requiring classes, I'll have to see about Brink, but so far it seemed way too slow for my taste.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 16:42 Post subject: |
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I have a feeling this game might be cracked by the time I come home from that party tonight!
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 16:44 Post subject: |
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Werelds
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 17:10 Post subject: |
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Werelds wrote: | @ Radicalus: Well, it's very obviously based on it. From what I've seen, similar classes, similar gadgets and it even goes for a cartooney look. In terms of actual gameplay (and modes), it's a 1:1 copy, not saying that TF2 or even TF/TFC were the first, but they made it successful.
Now whether it'll be as good as TF2 remains to be seen of course, it does indeed look like it has a speed more appropriate to consoles  |
I'd say it's more like SD's first game, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, released in 2003.
yeah they are very similar but you can't say they suddenly decided "oh guys, let's make a TF2 clone." They've been doing this type of games for 10 years
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 17:55 Post subject: |
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madness wrote: | Werelds wrote: | @ Radicalus: Well, it's very obviously based on it. From what I've seen, similar classes, similar gadgets and it even goes for a cartooney look. In terms of actual gameplay (and modes), it's a 1:1 copy, not saying that TF2 or even TF/TFC were the first, but they made it successful.
Now whether it'll be as good as TF2 remains to be seen of course, it does indeed look like it has a speed more appropriate to consoles  |
I'd say it's more like SD's first game, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, released in 2003.
yeah they are very similar but you can't say they suddenly decided "oh guys, let's make a TF2 clone." They've been doing this type of games for 10 years |
Guess what comes before "2"
Not that i'm saying it's a bad clone or anything, but to my knowledge TF invented the genre, and their mod is almost 15 years old now, with the Half-Life version, after they joined Valve, being 12 years old now.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 18:35 Post subject: |
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dsergei wrote: | But ET had strafejump! This shit has the smart button. |
Smart button and the high speed of a snail! All the videos they showed basically featured a few guys a few feet away, standing in one place, and shooting each other - and it still took long to kill someone!
I mean, there's a relation (I'm talking FPS game design here) between the speed of players and the average distance people engage. When the the average distance is small, you usually have to bump up the speed, otherwise aiming becomes too easy, as the target is too large. The further away you are, the slower you are, because you are fewer pixels, thus harder to shoot down with hitscan.
CSS and TF2 exemplify this nicely, they balanced weapon range of engagement, speed of player and hitpoints very well. According to people, who played Brink, even the light body type seemed very slow to them = epic fail.
I just can't grasp, why dodging is so mystifying for people, or why developers think people could't do it.
This is what happens, when you cater to those people, who want to be good in a game with no effort. CoD is by far the worst offender here, but most modern shooters suck donkey balls.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 18:38 Post subject: |
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The muliplayer mechanics (as described) and map layout look very similar to ET: Quake Wars.
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Posted: Sat, 7th May 2011 18:45 Post subject: |
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People are saying the graphics are worse on 360
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