The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
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Theescapist




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:06    Post subject:
Got it running well now, turned off blur and sqcc is it?


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:07    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Radicalus wrote:
GoG: to end it once and for all, I'll give you a tip, figure it ouy: gamecopyworld
And will those work on the retail version too?


Probably, I don't know, I own the steam version Smile
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dakiller




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:10    Post subject:
wow
load times much faster with unprotected GOG
small frame rate increase...luckily just enough to make me happy Smile
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:13    Post subject:
It doesn't really make sense, why would you gain frames from an .exe switch? It's not like the graphics libraries are in it ... Weird shit ...
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dakiller




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:15    Post subject:
because of the copy protection in the retail exe i would assume
it is twice the size of the gog exe


P.S. I Fucking Love this game! I kinda miss the ability to seduce every third female NPC tho lol


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:15    Post subject:
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Steelone




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:15    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
It doesn't really make sense, why would you gain frames from an .exe switch? It's not like the graphics libraries are in it ... Weird shit ...


I'd guess that the copy protection was poorly implemented and wrapped around other code. It would explain the loading times and probably the FPS loss as well.
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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:18    Post subject:
That flowchart convinced me! But in all honesty now, what subroutines does the securom containing .exe run in the background in order to cut off 10+ fps? Plus, this game is GPU bound, so I really don't understand how removing securom (which as far as I know taxes only the CPU) equals an increase in FPS. I'm bedazzled. I never liked intrusive DRM, but this just makes a great case against securom.

Wonder how many other games it botches up ...
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:21    Post subject:
http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings/17-4139/

Here's a "quick" look.

Also, about securom.. guess that's why I'm sitting at 25-30 FPS no matter what settings I use. I'll have to find the GoG .exe somewhere since I made the mistake of buying the boxed version..


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peter980




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:21    Post subject:
I don't seem to get any effect of skidrow's dlcs. If anyone has them working correctly, please post here.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:22    Post subject:
I'd like to know if the gog .exe is safe to use with the registered retail copy Sad
But I think I shouldn't fuck around with it because of the activations.


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MirkoOdora




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:22    Post subject:
I noticed no FPS boost with GOG executable.

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I doubt the DRM itself would hog the CPU so much. Which sane developer would want such DRM solution in their product? If Skidrow crack is in fact slower, which I didn't notice it was, it's because they're probably hooking/emulating some system calls. That's the only reason why it might be slower, which I didn't notice it was.

The performance issues are really killing the enjoyment for me. It drops to ~15 FPS too often. It's a shame they couldn't optimize it better cause the game is good. And my PC isn't exactly a Celeron.

I wouldn't call it a GOTY contender either. It's a nice looking game, but IMO it's just a tad too linear for my taste, plus the inventory management and character development seems a bit slow. I might be playing this game wrong (Not on hard difficulty), but with these performance issues theres no way I could go through that torment.

Nice looking game, 8/10.


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:23    Post subject:
I don't know how exactly the DRM could affect the performance so much, but I'm having more than 30fps in areas where the framerate was 20-ish before applying the unprotected .exe Smile (it's not a homogeneous boost though, since in some places the average framerate is the same).



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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:24    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings/17-4139/

Here's a "quick" look.

Also, about securom.. guess that's why I'm sitting at 25-30 FPS no matter what settings I use. I'll have to find the GoG .exe somewhere since I made the mistake of buying the boxed version..


Grab it off gamecopyworld.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:24    Post subject:
How many villages are there in the game? Is there a bigass city?
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OranosTheMighty




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:25    Post subject:
peter980 wrote:
I don't seem to get any effect of skidrow's dlcs. If anyone has them working correctly, please post here.


me too.


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:25    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
I don't know how exactly the DRM could affect the performance so much, but I'm having more than 30fps in areas where the framerate was 20-ish before applying the unprotected .exe Smile


Like I said, makes no fucking sense.
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Shado2k




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:25    Post subject:
I am M3th0d, will report if it fucks up anything. Smile
Also its been rock solid with the GOG exe no CTD's which I was getting a lot of the time.
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weakpoint




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:27    Post subject:
Holy shit, much better performance with unprotected GOG exe. Also game starts up much faster with it. With SKIDROW one of the cores gets to 100% and it takes 30-40 seconds to start, now just few seconds.
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neeger93




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:30    Post subject:
Shado2k wrote:
I am M3th0d, will report if it fucks up anything. Smile
Also its been rock solid with the GOG exe no CTD's which I was getting a lot of the time.

Also had few C2Ds with SKIDROW and later retail and also the game minimized to the taskbar occasionally for no reason. All of those troubles dissappeared with the GOG exe. Damn Securom!
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:34    Post subject:
Do the retail guys have those probs too or did Skidrow fuck up?
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neeger93




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:39    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Do the retail guys have those probs too or did Skidrow fuck up?

I received my copy today, unistalled Skidrow, installed retail, activated and registered and the framerate was meh depending on the area from 20-30. With GOG exe and paul.dll I get faster load times and framerate of about 30-45 and 50-60 in less demanding areas(caves, basements etc). So yes, the retail also has the issue.


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swebarb




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:40    Post subject:
well retail uses securom so it seems gog is the way to go for better performance.
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neeger93




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:42    Post subject:
I figure it doesn't really make a difference in the long run. It's not hard to grab the GOG exe. And if CDPR has any sense they'll remove/fix Securom in the next patch. Plus the retail package is really nice Very Happy .
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The_Leaf




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:46    Post subject:
Just finished the prologue and this game kicks serious ass. Tho I'm a bit worried about all the quest-related bugs you guys have been mentioning... hope I don't get stuck due to game breaking bug, I HATE those scenarios (happened to me as a kid on Final Fantasy 7, I remember I was so pissed!)

BTW, I found out that the biggest performance hog is the resolution (lol, should've checked that, I've been so used to low requirements in games recently that I forgot about it). @1280x720 my ancient 8800 gts runs quite well (30-40 fps) with almost everything on (No texture downsampling, shadows on high, AA activated, LOD Distance on Far and most effects enabled). The only settings I can't enable or it becomes sluggish are SSAO and, of course UberSampling.
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:46    Post subject:
Can anyone share a save at chapter 1 in Floatsam? I want to see if the troll dlc works..

If anyone has a save file please pm me with it. Very Happy


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:46    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
How many villages are there in the game? Is there a bigass city?

 Spoiler:
 


Alright, it's time I started a game on insane, let me see how far I get.
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:51    Post subject:
Holy fucking shit!

I went from 25 to 45 FPS with higher settings Laughing

Fucking securom bullshit... I was gonna wait for patches to fix performance, but now I don't have to.
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sealab




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:52    Post subject:
For those wondering why DLC doesn't work, DLC is tied to the CDKey that downloaded it, your CDKey must match the DLC's for it to load it correctly.
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2011 20:58    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
Holy fucking shit!

I went from 25 to 45 FPS with higher settings Laughing

Fucking securom bullshit... I was gonna wait for patches to fix performance, but now I don't have to.
Probably a dumb question but... do the exe versions match?


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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