Duke Nukem Forever (Gearbox revival)
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peter980




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 18:59    Post subject:
pontus wrote:
I'm gonna keep playing the razor release as i won't bother replaying any of the chapters anyway.


Not recommended. You'll probably also lose all Ego upgrades that way too, after restarting the game.


Anyway, it's not difficult just to find skidrow crack only.
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 19:08    Post subject:
I finished the game using the RZR release and had no problems with saved games and/or ego upgrades.
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Gvaz




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 19:15    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
swebarb wrote:
So much for it being 3 times longer then call of duty games.. liars..


Some reviewers have said it's 10-12 hours. So, yeah maybe it's not 3x a CoD title, but I don't believe it's only 6 hours!! Come on!


The demo is only 10-20 minutes, so it makes sense that the whole game would take maybe a little more than 7 hours.

Seems my assumptions were right.
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tardissun




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 19:18    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
NFO wars only started in the 2000s mostly, before that there was hardly any fight over releases and propers (and yes, I remember it and I still have those NFOs from the 80s and so Smile).


Not sure that's entirely true. Go back and read some of the THG (The Humble Guys) nfo's. Go back to the time of the not so humble babe, slavelord, and humbles slaves, etc...

Most of those fights were about couriering though. I will agree it's become a lot more petty today.
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pontus




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 19:26    Post subject:
peter980 wrote:

Not recommended. You'll probably also lose all Ego upgrades that way too, after restarting the game.

Anyway, it's not difficult just to find skidrow crack only.


True, it was already available on usenet.

In order to continue the campaign I had to copy last.sav and last.dcp from my ..\Duke Nukem Forever\System folder to C:\Users\..\AppData\Local\SKIDROW\57900\Storage and I was good to go.
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 19:44    Post subject:
pontus wrote:
peter980 wrote:

Not recommended. You'll probably also lose all Ego upgrades that way too, after restarting the game.

Anyway, it's not difficult just to find skidrow crack only.


True, it was already available on usenet.

In order to continue the campaign I had to copy last.sav and last.dcp from my ..\Duke Nukem Forever\System folder to C:\Users\..\AppData\Local\SKIDROW\57900\Storage and I was good to go.


I tried that too, but it fucked up the controls of the game. Some keys weren't working anymore so I switched back to razor's crack.
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:15    Post subject:
I'm ~3 hours in and I'm surprisingly not disliking it. The game has tonnes of flaws, very mediocre graphics and imperfect shooting mechanics (including the rather imprecise mouse controls and two-weapons limit/health regen for derps)...but it's quite fun.

Obviously it's neither a great game nor a worthy successor of Duke3D, but at least I'm finding it much more fun than the demo (which ironically contained two of the most uninspired levels of the whole game Laughing).

A fail? Yes, but everything went slightly better than expected.. Razz
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pontus




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:20    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:

I tried that too, but it fucked up the controls of the game. Some keys weren't working anymore so I switched back to razor's crack.


You're right, dukevision is no longer working Sad
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:32    Post subject:
Have you tried to reset the key bindings?
(Might be that it saves the data to some Skidrow folder instead of Razor - Steam Cloud support titles normally using a specific Steam folder which is bypassed via these modifications and thus alternatives are used.)
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Romee_HUN




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:33    Post subject:
Finished it not so long ago and all i can say is it's az outdated game in every aspect you can think of. Also finished it with maxed out ego played all the mini games no rush at all in about 7 hrs it was over. In the playthrough i was bored, sometimes pissed and raging (especially in water sequences) but not one moment was like "whoa that was good". Huge disappointment for me.


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M4trix




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:36    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
but everything went slightly better than expected.. Razz


You forgot to put the meme face.



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Vulture




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:38    Post subject:
Skidrow rls works great for me.
Does MP Lan/Online work? Didn't try it yet.
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mike20599




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:53    Post subject:
Vulture wrote:
Skidrow rls works great for me.
Does MP Lan/Online work? Didn't try it yet.


I don't think MP will work since it would have to go through Steam. Too bad, I wanna try Capture the Babe!
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dakiller




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:25    Post subject:
hmmm
using just the SR folder stuff with the Razor release...
sure the saves don't vanish (they never did here i have it installed on D)
and the ego points stay....

but now the load times are CRAZY long

shoullda stuck with razor as i din really need the ego as the game is pretty damn easy

sigh
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Dunge




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:26    Post subject:
Why did you guys say Skidrow works great?? IT DON'T!!

1. Another typo error in their nfo, the save folder is 57900 not 59700.
2. Can't copy the system.ini and user.ini files from one folder to another, one is in unicode and the other not and it won't load.
3. Dukevision stop working
4. Ammo refill stop refilling your rocket ammunition. I'm at the "Queen Bitch" boss and it's now impossible to kill her.
5. Loading times are much longer on skidrow release.

edit: Reverted the Razor crack and everything began to work great again. NUKE THIS SKIDROW SHIT! Unnuke Razor! Give credits to the proper people!


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:33    Post subject:
I got that file format issue from the demo, started the game and set the in-game options, quit and opened "C:\Games\Steam\userdata\STEAM_ID\57900\remote\system.ini" and tested some stuff, made a copy afterwards to system_.ini

Started the game and found nothing had changed, used Winmerge to compare system.ini with system_.ini and the file format warning prompted that one was LTF something or what it was called and the other in Unicode.

Made changing or altering any data impossible as the file "reset" for a lack of better word.

EDIT: Still as I mentioned I think (I can't be sure of course.) it's a key bind conflict, perhaps due to what I wrote above.

system.ini contains the options and user.ini the key bindings (And what tutorial hints you've seen as to not show them again, these aren't the load screen tips by the way.)

Both can be deleted without hampering in game progress. Smile

(Progress is saved via those three other files, last.sav for resuming the latest checkpoint I guess, meta.dnp for profile info and progress and last.dcp for the actual checkpoint.)
(EDIT: And progress.ini which is encrypted.)


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M4trix




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:35    Post subject:
Skidrow's cracked folder, System, contains a file, launcher.exe and Bitdefender blocks the execution of this file and gives me a warning about a trojan Heur.JP.hmGfaasP8smi. Probably false positive but heck, who knows? Is this goddamn launcher.exe necessary in order to play the game? Scratch Head


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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:37    Post subject:
It could be they use a loader (Original game uses no launcher.) to do their stuff via that and some steam .dll to the game exe without interfering with it directly, unsure why (I know little about this stuff.) but it's likely a so called false positive via Heuristic scanning (Attempts to recognize types of viruses and "guess" so some common procedures like this here .dll or what it is injection will be seen as a trojan since it's similar in execution.)

Check the source you got it from or ask for MD5 info or similar to verify the file is fully OK if you are unsure. Smile
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weakpoint




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:44    Post subject:
Meh, just finished the game with the Razor release. Didn't think it was worth it to start messing with the Skidrow fix and potentially lose all the progress. Ego not saving isn't really game breaking and I don't have any desire to replay any of the levels. Uninstall.
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M4trix




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:48    Post subject:
JBeckman, I've managed to execute this launcher.exe but I needed to add it to the Bitdefender's exception list first although it doesn't allow me to copy this file to the game directory. Like you said, it's some sort of loader and probably launches the game. But why they used a loader? Scratch Head

Edit: Yeah, I got it. You need to use this launcher if you wanna play the game in a different language. Confused



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stemot




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:55    Post subject:
Dunge wrote:
Why did you guys say Skidrow works great?? IT DON'T!!

1. Another typo error in their nfo, the save folder is 57900 not 59700.
2. Can't copy the system.ini and user.ini files from one folder to another, one is in unicode and the other not and it won't load.
3. Dukevision stop working
4. Ammo refill stop refilling your rocket ammunition. I'm at the "Queen Bitch" boss and it's now impossible to kill her.
5. Loading times are much longer on skidrow release.

edit: Reverted the Razor crack and everything began to work great again. NUKE THIS SKIDROW SHIT! Unnuke Razor! Give credits to the proper people!


I take it you playing from a fresh save and not resuming a previous one after using Skidrows crack?
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prudislav
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:58    Post subject:
Dunge wrote:
Why did you guys say Skidrow works great?? IT DON'T!!

1. Another typo error in their nfo, the save folder is 57900 not 59700.
2. Can't copy the system.ini and user.ini files from one folder to another, one is in unicode and the other not and it won't load.
3. Dukevision stop working
4. Ammo refill stop refilling your rocket ammunition. I'm at the "Queen Bitch" boss and it's now impossible to kill her.
5. Loading times are much longer on skidrow release.

edit: Reverted the Razor crack and everything began to work great again. NUKE THIS SKIDROW SHIT! Unnuke Razor! Give credits to the proper people!

i have skidrow release and Rocket launcher is refilling fine -only problem is dukevision
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pontus




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:09    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Have you tried to reset the key bindings?
(Might be that it saves the data to some Skidrow folder instead of Razor - Steam Cloud support titles normally using a specific Steam folder which is bypassed via these modifications and thus alternatives are used.)


Yes I tried that, but even when binding to a different key dukevision just won't work anymore. I hope it won't be a problem to finish the game, I've rarely used it so far.
No problem with longer loading times or rocket ammo refill though.


About the game, I find it gets much more fun as soon as you get to Duke Burger.


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Dunge




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:11    Post subject:
stemot wrote:
I take it you playing from a fresh save and not resuming a previous one after using Skidrows crack?


No I'm not, if you would read a bit point #1 and point #2 are about transferring the savegame from razor to skidrow, as they mentioned we can do in the .nfo. Skidrow fails as usual.
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Jundy




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:19    Post subject:
can you use skidrows files with Razor ?
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prudislav
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:27    Post subject:
Is dukevision working on fresh Skidrow game (not imported save) ???


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:29    Post subject:
Dunge wrote:
Why did you guys say Skidrow works great?? IT DON'T!!

1. Another typo error in their nfo, the save folder is 57900 not 59700.
2. Can't copy the system.ini and user.ini files from one folder to another, one is in unicode and the other not and it won't load.
3. Dukevision stop working
4. Ammo refill stop refilling your rocket ammunition. I'm at the "Queen Bitch" boss and it's now impossible to kill her.
5. Loading times are much longer on skidrow release.

edit: Reverted the Razor crack and everything began to work great again. NUKE THIS SKIDROW SHIT! Unnuke Razor! Give credits to the proper people!


1. Oh no, not a typo.
2. True. So don't copy those files and worst case you have to set up your keys again.
3. Dukevision works fine.
4. Ammo refill works fine.
5. Razor loading times were over a minute for every level transition or death. Skidrow loads in 5-10 seconds max.

There's no way that "everything works great again" after reverting to the rzr crack unless you intend to play the game all the way through in one sitting. As soon as you quit and re-run the game you will lose all the Ego bonuses you picked up along the way. (I'm sure someone with an extremely high tolerance for shitty games could beat it in one sitting though, given its rather brief length, but I'd still rather have a crack that lets me replay chapters if I'm ever feeling that masochistic.)

Jundy wrote:
can you use skidrows files with Razor ?


Yes, just read the nfo. Don't copy over the ini files and do note that the correct directory is 57900 and not 59700. Better yet, don't bother copying over any files and just start a new game, since your old game will have lost all the Ego upgrades you picked up along the way.

prudislav wrote:
Is dukevision working on fresh Skidrow game (not imported save) ???


Yes, everything is working fine now.
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Dunge




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:34    Post subject:
Don't know why I had these problem and not you, but I'm saying what I encountered. Loaded the game at Queen Bitch and I couldn't continue further because I couldn't reload the rockets. Didn't quite feel like restarting the whole game. Continued with Razor and I'm at Duke's Burger level at hard difficulty and ego isn't a problem yet, but yeah my bar seems small Smile.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:54    Post subject:
Palegod wrote:

5. Razor loading times were over a minute for every level transition or death. Skidrow loads in 5-10 seconds max.



WTF are you using a x486 with 8 megs or ram?? :\
On reloaded release the loading times are around 15 to 20 secs, nothing more then the average these days in games.


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Dunge




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 23:01    Post subject:
sausje wrote:

WTF are you using a x486 with 8 megs or ram?? :\
On reloaded release the loading times are around 15 to 20 secs, nothing more then the average these days in games.


reloaded? You meant razor. Mine are about 2-3 seconds on razor.
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