[OTHER] IGN Top 99 Games of All Time (Readers Choice)
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 07:30    Post subject: [OTHER] IGN Top 99 Games of All Time (Readers Choice)
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While it did bring a little nostalgia, it also made me laugh. And laugh. And then weep for the readers of IGN...
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 12:50    Post subject:
yeah i laughed at quite a few of the choices, no super mario bro's Evil or Very Mad and resident evil 4 is a great game but certainly not the best ever Smile i agreed with ocarina of time and god of war being in the top ten though, although i didn't see half life 1 anywhere lol Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 12:55    Post subject:
Why the hell is HL2 in the top 10? Half-Life 1 should be there, not HL2! It's good that Splinter Cell 3 is above Metal Gear Solid 3. Razz Almost all of the games here are from about 1997 till now. :S But why is HL1 not on that list damnit! Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 13:58    Post subject:
It's a shit list no doubt, not worth looking at even for amusement.


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 13:58    Post subject:
where the fook is amped2.. that game just rocks..

but res evil 4 should win.. that game is so so tight. .its just perfect in everyway.
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 15:22    Post subject:
its ok. nothing to take too seriously. about 1/3 of the games are from before 2000 which i think is ok. most of the best/classic games from pre2000 are with. games are just better nowadays. with some exceptions.
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 15:25    Post subject:
where is Tomb Raider Confused Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 17:11    Post subject:
yeah lol, HL2 being #5 and HL not even being on the list cracked me up.

Then there is doom 3 being on the list...


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xAiTheHitman




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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 17:14    Post subject:
God top ten lists will never be right. Everyone has their own opinions.

BTW to the guy above, even though this is opinions here, how is SC3 above MGS 3? MGS 3 had a much better story and gameplay IMO. If anything, GameSpot should be shot for giving MGS 3 the rating they did.
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 17:21    Post subject:
that list is BS i seriously doubt more ppl woulda voted for Xenogears (number 40) over Starcraft and quite a few before that. Also super mario RPG at 36? Rolling Eyes Also no HL in that list? nor any games like Street fighter or The getaway, or even Call of duty. We all know cod has loads of fan boys yet more people like Ace combat 5 than this?


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 17:27    Post subject:
gamesmaster86 wrote:
yeah i laughed at quite a few of the choices, no super mario bro's Evil or Very Mad


Not paid much attention then eh Gamesmaster? in numbers 40-31 alone there are 3 mario games. mario rpg, mario 3 and mario 64.

Some people..... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 17:30    Post subject:
and anyways, games like jet set willy and harrier attack etc on spectrum computers and other oldies like that are better. Sensible soccer on amiga, etc. But they'd never get a look in nowadays as the graphics are now considered pants. but rock solid playability was their key - Hyper sports, track n field, bubble bobble, rainbow islands, chase hq, streets of rage, golden axe... them were the days.
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 17:31    Post subject:
Sublime wrote:
that list is BS i seriously doubt more ppl woulda voted for Xenogears (number 40) over Starcraft and quite a few before that. Also super mario RPG at 36? Rolling Eyes Also no HL in that list? nor any games like Street fighter or The getaway, or even Call of duty. We all know cod has loads of fan boys yet more people like Ace combat 5 than this?


The list can go fuck itself. But their not going to have an accurate portrayel to our liking. Everyone elses likings are different.

If I had a say Mario 3 would be up there in the top 20. Maybe put in LttP up at the top to. Stuff like that takes a lot of work and not just a rushed effort. And to be honest with ya, a top ten couldnt work anyway. Theres too many top games THAT belong in the top ten to actually even be a top ten list to games. It just wouldnt work out. Theres probably about 5-10 games from each generations cnosole that would fit up there. I know theres definately around that for the NES alone. Hell, wheres Castlevainia 2: Simons Quest? I loved that game. Its a classic.
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 18:47    Post subject:
russ_beer wrote:
gamesmaster86 wrote:
yeah i laughed at quite a few of the choices, no super mario bro's Evil or Very Mad


Not paid much attention then eh Gamesmaster? in numbers 40-31 alone there are 3 mario games. mario rpg, mario 3 and mario 64.

Some people..... Laughing


You obviously don't pay much attention either note i wrote SUPER MARIO BRO'S you know the first one duh! Razz i did notice the others i just thought that the original one deserved a place just like i thought sonic, golden axe and shinobi did but then again i'm probably too nostalgic of 'the good old days' lol Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 18:51    Post subject:
lol stupid list.


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 19:07    Post subject:
Yea but they're claiming they did it by readers votes. i somehow doubt that some of them games were nominated and some more than others. Look on 95%+ sites with similar things the top 10 has, Super mario 64 (or mario of some kind) goldeneye, half life, Starcraft, grim fandango, doom, Zelda someting else something else etc. The fact this list is so drastically wrong it's just unbelievable.


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 19:58    Post subject:
well i think this list is listing the best games. or trying to. not what is best nostalgia wise.

i mean cmon, honestly. like super maro bros (1st) for example, how good is that game by todays standard? would you pay full-prize for a game like that? and if not, then why should it be high on the list?
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 20:36    Post subject:
you're right nailbiter. I wouldn't pay £40 for super mario 1 nowadays. thats a valid point, but i did at the time. obviously tastes change and games improve. I was playing sensible soccer earlier on my megadrive emulator, thinking its great, but those older games dont immerse you like newer games like pro evo soccer does. you get a warm feeling when you score on sensible, but you wanna shout out loud when you score on pro evo soccer, such is the degree of involvement. Even Goldeneye doesnt play as good as some of the others now. Halo was class, but in its heyday i think goldeneye was better. But nowadays halo pi$$es on goldeneye hands down IMO, the list will always change year in year out.

If it was polled 6 months ago, i'm sure San Andreas would have been number 1
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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 20:39    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
well i think this list is listing the best games. or trying to. not what is best nostalgia wise.

i mean cmon, honestly. like super maro bros (1st) for example, how good is that game by todays standard? would you pay full-prize for a game like that? and if not, then why should it be high on the list?


The gameplay still IS good. I really enjoyed playing it on both NES and GBC. It's more fun than about 95% of what's coming out these days. Now the games have much more features, but most of them aren't worked out properly. In SMB all the features are worked out properly.


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PostPosted: Wed, 4th May 2005 20:43    Post subject:
russ_beer wrote:
you're right nailbiter. I wouldn't pay £40 for super mario 1 nowadays. thats a valid point, but i did at the time. obviously tastes change and games improve. I was playing sensible soccer earlier on my megadrive emulator, thinking its great, but those older games dont immerse you like newer games like pro evo soccer does. you get a warm feeling when you score on sensible, but you wanna shout out loud when you score on pro evo soccer, such is the degree of involvement. Even Goldeneye doesnt play as good as some of the others now. Halo was class, but in its heyday i think goldeneye was better. But nowadays halo pi$$es on goldeneye hands down IMO, the list will always change year in year out.

If it was polled 6 months ago, i'm sure San Andreas would have been number 1

yeah, the newer game the higher on the lists, thats for sure. haha i remember our goty-list here at nforce last year. kotor 2 that just got released was really, really close to win. but today no one cares about that game. Wink

and yes. sensible soccer was an awesome game! Smile
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Slowghost wrote:


The gameplay still IS good. I really enjoyed playing it on both NES and GBC. It's more fun than about 95% of what's coming out these days. Now the games have much more features, but most of them aren't worked out properly. In SMB all the features are worked out properly.


of course it is/was good. im not doubting that for a second. hallo, its super mario ffs! but by todays standard it just cannot compete. gfx, controlls, sound, music, story, leangth etc is so much deeper, better now. well for most parts. bad games are obviously still released. but so were they back in the days as well.

lets take another example: metal gear for nes. 2 buttons. he couldnt have many enemies on the screen at the same time so he made it a sneaker game. made really hard to make it feel longer. etc. now compare that game to splinter cell:ct. billions of moves, shadows, lightning, music that reacts to environment, story (ok ok), movie cut sceenes, and so on. i dont know if this was a good example, im just trying to show evolution of the games. and today they are pretty complex some games. and they are not targeted only for kids anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2005 07:16    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
well i think this list is listing the best games. or trying to. not what is best nostalgia wise.

i mean cmon, honestly. like super maro bros (1st) for example, how good is that game by todays standard? would you pay full-prize for a game like that? and if not, then why should it be high on the list?


Full price? No. But were talking best games from all eras. Whatever happened to originality? Some of your basic formulas that went onto new games, started out on the NES. I could see games like LttP and SMB beating quite a few games from today. Not graphics wise of course...
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2005 07:41    Post subject:
I thought we were talking about the current best games, at this moment in time, not 15 years ago.

Sure, mario was good then, not now. There are far superior platformers out.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2005 07:59    Post subject:
I've not looked at the list, they didn't sumarize it. But for the best games of all time they should be voting on a game that sticks in your mind even years later. Elite would do that for me, as would Mercenaries on the cbm 64. I almost forgot about Paradroid.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2005 09:04    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
I thought we were talking about the current best games, at this moment in time, not 15 years ago.

Sure, mario was good then, not now. There are far superior platformers out.


I believe they were talking about all time best games. Past to present? If we were talking about the current best games, how exactly would games from past systems end up to todays standards on a current list? From what I can gather the list is for all time top games according to the opinions of IGN and its readers. After i read through the top 20 I didnt bother to read any further as I just x'ed the site out. Its complete bull shit.

Ehh, mario is still good now. I sometimes find myself going back and playing older games. Especially when theres nothing new out now.
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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2005 09:31    Post subject:
So this is meant to be an all time best, as in how good they were when you played them, be it one month ago or ten years ago.

Well that makes a lot of difference. I actually thought that 'A link to the past' was better then 'Ocarina of time'. But only if we're talking about at the point in time when I first played them, rather then now.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2005 09:39    Post subject:
Well the list is supposed to be users nominated lists. so the 1 with the most votes = the winner. Like i said i highly doubt that some of them games got voted over classics.


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PostPosted: Thu, 5th May 2005 10:35    Post subject:
Its unbeleivable how many classics have been missed of that list, if someone had said "these are the top 100 games of all time" to me at the pub and quoted that list, I would have thought they where joking.


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2005 02:30    Post subject:
WTF! No Red Alert or any C&C?
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2005 02:54    Post subject:
[quote="Nailbiter"]
Slowghost wrote:

lets take another example: metal gear for nes. 2 buttons. he couldnt have many enemies on the screen at the same time so he made it a sneaker game. made really hard to make it feel longer. etc. now compare that game to splinter cell:ct. billions of moves, shadows, lightning, music that reacts to environment, story (ok ok), movie cut sceenes, and so on. i dont know if this was a good example, im just trying to show evolution of the games. and today they are pretty complex some games. and they are not targeted only for kids anymore.


yeah there was evolution...that just natural. but sometimes making things more complex does not necessarily mean to make something better.

mario was not only was fun to play but had a certain charm that todays games are not able to develop.

i won't bitch about mario not beeing on that list cause i don't play todays games and most of my favs are on that list anyways. but i think some old games...as ugly they might seem compaired to todays eyecandy-o-rama...still play better than 99% of todays games...


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