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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 11:52    Post subject:
Was close to level 2 of the dungeon this time but died when I explored as I found a room with some demonic shopkeeper, accidentally right clicked and threw a bomb on it which promptly summoned a sort of demonic guard (I guess the same happens if you are detected stealing any of the items.)

I died rather quickly but the game also crashed shortly afterwards as the entire room was filled up with those guard things. Razz
(Never stopped spawning.)



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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 12:12    Post subject:
W123 wrote:
To tell the truth I unchecked the permadeath option the 4th or 5th time i died


How does that work, exactly? I turned off perma-death right from the start (I've always hated that crap) yet it doesn't seem to DO anything... the character still dies and that's it, your game is over... start a new one.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 12:13    Post subject:
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 12:37    Post subject:
Unsure how permadeath works as such but pressing ESC allows you to save (And quit) the current game, I assume with this unticked you can load the game even after the character has been killed.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 12:53    Post subject:
Ahhh, I got you. Thanks, as always, JB <3
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 14:01    Post subject:
"Your life force is running out!"
Gauntlet reference Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 14:05    Post subject:
Aw, I tried adding more than 7 skill trees and it didn't work. Sad You get all the bonuses and the initial skill but you can't spend skillpoints on them.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 14:09    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
"Your life force is running out!"
Gauntlet reference Smile


The whole game is full of really funny references, both to other games and movies. I'm loving it, I really am! <3
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 15:27    Post subject:
What? A roguelike without permadeath? That's ridiculous. That takes all the fun out of save-scumming! ... oh wait.

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Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 16:34    Post subject:
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 17:31    Post subject:
Steam just updated the game again, though there's no changelog or news article to say what was updated.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 17:45    Post subject:
Oh this feels like Nethack all over again.
Started a game as a vampiric bloodmage - later tries showed that this is quite a stupid combination at least until you level vampirism up so you can get health from corpses back.

Anyway. Started off went through the left door.
A few turns later "You were killed by The Deth"
Freaking Grim Reaper. More like Grim Raper...
And I learnt one thing so far. STAY AWAY FROM INCONSEQUENTIA (sp?) . Those sidequests are - at least for me so far - undoable. Way too hard.

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Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 17:57    Post subject:
Up to 30k points with my dual-wielding sword user now. Currently 1-hitting everything on floor 2.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 18:17    Post subject:
SMX wrote:
any relese yet ?

There is. I think it's a Steam RIP which you only extract and play. Just tested it and it works. There is no specific name to the release, though. It's just ''Dungeons of Dredmor''. It's found on a very famous bay on the Intenet. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 19:35    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
W123 wrote:
To tell the truth I unchecked the permadeath option the 4th or 5th time i died


How does that work, exactly? I turned off perma-death right from the start (I've always hated that crap) yet it doesn't seem to DO anything... the character still dies and that's it, your game is over... start a new one.


Yeah, I always hated that too. A long time ago I used to play a lot of ZAngband and the first thing I did was download the source and add a toggle for permadeath. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 20:21    Post subject:
Playing with hand to hand combat dodging golemancer, with skill in viking magic and mathematics, and ability to spot traps Razz

So far, a breeze, 1st level of the dungeon totally cleared, just trying to find a monster for a side quest. As golemancer I can summon a 'whiskers' pet which kills anything, even the sidequest bosses, and my hand to hand attacks obliterate instantly any monster, and if things get tough, I can imbue extra melee damage from viking magic.

I've so far only one complaint... the movement is annoying Razz I wish I could turn off the animations and just appear as a single sprite moving instantly.

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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 23:01    Post subject:
at level 3 now (dungeon level) got one monster lair already. It got me worried for a second, but in the end my mustachio golem could hold them off long enough for me to pick them down one by one Razz

Anyone got through yet?

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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 23:07    Post subject:
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Mussolinka
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 23:10    Post subject:
I raged after 4 hours when I entered the 3rd level and died. Took too fucking long Sad

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Fuck you troll. Fuck you and your entire aids-infested family. Get cancer and die. Slowly.
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Namarie




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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 23:32    Post subject:
Vampirism and levelling it makes it easy.

This skill alone can let you finish the game.
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Mussolinka
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Jul 2011 23:50    Post subject:
Didn't pick hardest difficulty and permadeath to use overpowered skills.

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Fuck you troll. Fuck you and your entire aids-infested family. Get cancer and die. Slowly.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 06:31    Post subject:
Ran all the way down to level 10 (Quake?) via luck and abusing door closing, got a look at Dredmor but died shortly afterwards as I retreated into a habitat.
(A so called "monster zoo" that music got really annoying but I didn't get very far before I got fully cornered - which was the greatest challenge and difficulty to avoid running all that far.)

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EDIT: Tons of potions, certain abuse of some cheaper skills and speed boosting items found on the earlier and more manageable levels were heavily involved of course.
(As to actually clear out the area and level up enough to kill that boss it'll be a whole different challenge, level four was the best so far playing properly but I am getting better and better, level 3 is themed after Doom also isn't it? come to think of it seeing the architecture on level 10 also being a specific theme.)
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 07:40    Post subject:
I used to do something similar when playing Telengard. I would hit the misty cube on the first level and hope it sent me to some ridiculously high level. Then I would try to find a treasure pile with some good free equipment. THEN try to make it back to the earlier levels somehow to actually make use of it. I don't know that I was ever actually successful in making it back to the first level but it was still a rush. Sometimes the simplest games are the funnest ones Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 08:11    Post subject:
Mussolinka wrote:
I raged after 4 hours when I entered the 3rd level and died. Took too fucking long Sad


rofl.. ya. Pace is rather slow. Too much of a timewaster to have permadeath IMO Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 08:19    Post subject:
Heh that's one method I haven't thought about to try and get good gear, didn't have much room to explore without getting swamped by creatures but now and again you do encounter these open rooms littered with a whole lot of items, it is pretty random though and all sorts of stuff can be found that doesn't quite fit like how one of my earlier sword focused characters found a pretty decent blade called a steel sword that with some crafting was turned into a fine steel sword (eight out of ten stars) not that far into the second level of the dungeon. Smile

Of course the same goes for enemies also, finding a monster zoo on the first or second dungeon level is pretty much instant death if you don't manage to close the door again (It is instant death if you bashed said door down which I did once.) as even without the 50+ monsters suddenly swarming you there can on occasion be some (for that level.) really challenging foes (Those octopus type spellcasters for example.) mixed in, or several boss type mobs. Razz
(As is pretty evident I didn't get much use of said sword when this happened though I took down a large part of the horde before running out of food and healing items - and space to backtrack into as monsters tend to try and surround all adjacent squares next to you making escape impossible unless it's weaker enemies.)

Need to try more with spells I suppose, teleportation worked pretty well but as the tutorial indicated even better versions exist that aren't quite so random.
(Haven't experimented much with the more odd choices like mathemagic and fleshcrafting but those might be really interesting if leveled up a bit.)


EDIT: Come to think of it taking only the major magical skills at start might be a interesting build though the low health would be a issue, might be a fun character though.
(Alchemy would be nice also I guess, throwing potions work great even without the full skill.)
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 08:34    Post subject:
What is this HAYWIRE thing mean? Every other attack the game shouts it at me for some reason.
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 08:38    Post subject:
It's listed as a stat in the character screen so you can see some details there, unsure about specifics though but the higher this stat (According to that description.) the more likely a chance of a critical resonance cascade effect (for magic I guess), again I'm unsure what it really does.

EDIT: I think I got it when I decided to (And this was really stupid) put the lutefisk cube (Can be found often in level 2 I think, donating 15 or so lutefisk converted items to the specific shrine for it gives a random high-tier magic item.) anyway as I said I decided to put the lutefisk cube inside the lutefisk cube as it was a valid combination, explosion this caused wiped everything in the room and rivaled even the effect of the mighty arrow of mass destruction, similarly it did of course also kill my own character.
(AoMD is a item I stole from a certain pig demon/merchant further down in the dungeon and promptly was forced to use against him and the "guards" summoned.)


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nih




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 08:42    Post subject:
Using a lutefisk cube inside another lutefisk cube resulted in exactly what I thought I would.

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W123




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 09:24    Post subject:
lmao.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2011 10:11    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
I used to do something similar when playing Telengard. I would hit the misty cube on the first level and hope it sent me to some ridiculously high level. Then I would try to find a treasure pile with some good free equipment. THEN try to make it back to the earlier levels somehow to actually make use of it. I don't know that I was ever actually successful in making it back to the first level but it was still a rush. Sometimes the simplest games are the funnest ones Smile


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