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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 22:51    Post subject:
I've known for years that it was primarily console-focused, ever since iD announced cutting the game down so it could fit on two 360 DVDs. They later backpeddled and tried to do some damage control by stating no CONTENT had been cut, just rearranged, but that was blatant rubbish. Still, the game itself has been looking more and more fun - I'm just not happy with this new "revelation" that they can't even be arsed to let people adjust their own settings.

I NEVER want that kind of control taken away from me and on that reason alone, though there will no doubt be more bad decisions that come to light between now and release, I'm not going to preorder and will instead try the ISO demo.

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God damnit, that's like the umpteenth new page I've started today Sad


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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 22:51    Post subject:
I watched it as well, but I didn't expect otherwise from the game.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 22:52    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I've know for years that it was primarily console-focused, ever since iD announced cutting the game down so it could fit on two 360 DVDs. They later backpeddled and tried to do some damage control by stating no CONTENT had been cut, just rearranged, but that was blatant rubbish. Still, the game itself has been looking more and more fun - I'm just not happy with this new "revelation" that they can't even be arsed to let people adjust their own settings.

I NEVER want that kind of control taken away from me and on that reason alone, though there will no doubt be more bad decisions that come to light between now and release, I'm not going to preorder and will instead try the ISO demo.


It's now 3 DVDs even on 360.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 22:53    Post subject:
That doesn't change my point. It *was* two DVDs and it *was* cut down *because* of the 360 limitations, which they openly admitted were not limitations on the PC and PS3.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 22:55    Post subject:
I didn't say otherwise, just that it's not the case anymore.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 23:03    Post subject:
Well in the keynote he touches this subject quite extensively.

They didn't care much about storage at first, focusing on the PC, but when they discovered just how limited the consoles are they had to rethink. Their solution basically meant that all of their textures got scaled down and compressed badly, which is what I've said about the videos. All the shit on the walls, and even the ground close to you, just look bad. I won't get into the numbers here, but you gotta think between 20 to 40 times smaller.

The PS3 does have the superior storage solution with its BD, but that probably wouldn't have solved much because that is the most RAM limited platform and its optical drive is also the one with the lowest throughput. They already had to fall back to using disk cache, and while there's things he wishes they had done slightly different, that's still a massive slowdown from using RAM as cache. The 360 and PS3 are equally shit, where one has more storage, the other has more RAM available. The typical PC has at least 8-10 times more available of both, let alone processing power, access speeds, etcetera.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Aug 2011 23:08    Post subject:
Mate, I miss the days where PC games came first and then watered down ports filtered out for console hardware. HL2 and Doom 3 were made, first and foremost, for the PC -- and the PORTED to the consoles later. Instead of being the other way around where the only ones to suffer are PC owners.
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 01:17    Post subject:
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 01:19    Post subject:
+15000


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 01:21    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

God damnit, that's like the umpteenth new page I've started today Sad






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human_steel




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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 22:55    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
God damnit, that's like the umpteenth new page I've started today Sad

Laughing

I don't see nothing wrong with starting new pages, though. Mad
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 00:16    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
God damnit, that's like the umpteenth new page I've started today Sad

Laughing

I don't see nothing wrong with starting new pages, though. Mad


I was the one who started the 800th page of the epic thread, the only page that matters Cool



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 00:30    Post subject:
yuri999 wrote:
human_steel wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
God damnit, that's like the umpteenth new page I've started today Sad

Laughing

I don't see nothing wrong with starting new pages, though. Mad


I was the one who started the 800th page of the epic thread, the only page that matters Cool




But....Pumpy still has the 666...

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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 01:19    Post subject:
There's still the 1000th page... Cool Face
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techguy1981




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 02:40    Post subject:
I am really liking the keynote video, I am gonna pass on the "ISO demo" when it comes out and get this on Amazon. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 02:41    Post subject:
Cool Face
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 04:39    Post subject:
No ISO demo?

I'm here to retire your NFOHump card! Razz
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 12:26    Post subject:
Maybe he rarely buys games and he won't care that much if the game's been proven as a total disaster when it comes out. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 12:34    Post subject:
id games are instabuy. [/fanboi mode]
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 12:39    Post subject:
ISO demo Cool Face


dust.
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techguy1981




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2011 17:15    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
Maybe he rarely buys games and he won't care that much if the game's been proven as a total disaster when it comes out. Cool Face


Thats correct, I only bought Portal 2 and the Bioshock 2 Minerva's Den this year.

I am gonna take the risk on Rage! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2011 13:13    Post subject:
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2011 13:20    Post subject:
If he's so concerned about that on consoles, I wonder if the PS3 version of RAGE is going to support keyboard and mouse. Afterall, Sony have allowed that from the start - it's up to developers if they want to use it or not.

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Speaking of lulz;

http://www.vg247.com/2011/08/08/carmack-rage-360-install-to-be-22gb/

22GB install... lmao...
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2011 17:39    Post subject:
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Nui
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2011 18:11    Post subject:
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So I'm guessing that 10% of Gaming PCs are 10X more powerfull than consoles, but at least 90% of them are owned by pirates, whereas 99% of consoles are owned by people who pay for their games.
obviously
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2011 18:14    Post subject:
I can't take it anymore...
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farne




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2011 18:24    Post subject:
Yondaime wrote:
human_steel wrote:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/314566/carmack-extremely-frustrated-that-pc-is-10-times-as-powerful-as-ps3-360/

And another one by Karmack.


Don't read the comments on that article. Massive derptards in there.


Quote:
Can't he just shut up? Just because he made DOOM & Quake he thinks he is god. He has done nothing good since the 1st DOOM & Quake games.


Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2011 18:25    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
I can't take it anymore...


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