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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 15:58    Post subject:
I actually love what Gamebryo manages to achieve in terms of visuals, but I hate how the games on it run and feel and how the engine works in general.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 16:08    Post subject:
If they improve the animations (I know, it's almost a mission impossible Laughing ) Gamebryo can still look and play good, even today. I've never had problems with it both in terms of performance and "feeling", which is perfect for the RPG genre.

If they decide to make a more action oriented Fallout 4 (Cool Face), the situation would be different though. Laughing
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 16:46    Post subject:
After playing the Gothic games so much, it's no wonder I find Gamebryo horrible in terms of those things.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 20:53    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:


The vomit was two-fold btw; one would be Tech "5", the other would be "Fallout" 4 (VATS/FailFPS is just as bad a decision as the AI in this game)


well of course the engine should be tuned by then but it would at least look pretty after rage patch 1 the game looked good on my 560 ti, cept for the smaller details ofc. wouldnt mind f3 on tech5, would look much better than the oblivion engine
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 20:56    Post subject:
VizoR wrote:
wouldnt mind f3 on tech5, would look much better than the oblivion engine
Sacrificing mods so the game would run in a mediocre engine like that?
No thanks. Vomit


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 20:59    Post subject:
VizoR wrote:
wouldnt mind f3 on tech5, would look much better than the oblivion engine

A wild comedian appears. Laughing
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Raccoon




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 21:02    Post subject:
VizoR wrote:
wouldnt mind f3 on tech5, would look much better than the oblivion engine


Are You Serious Mind Is Full Of Fuck

id Tech5 is good for making landscape vistas but it sucks in general. Rolling Eyes
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VizoR




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 21:08    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Sacrificing mods so the game would run in a mediocre engine like that?
No thanks. Vomit


valid point, i got really disappointed after i read this article
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/05/rage-to-ship-with-full-level-editor-id-studio/
and it turned out to be bs =/
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2011 21:18    Post subject:
TheRaccoon wrote:
VizoR wrote:
wouldnt mind f3 on tech5, would look much better than the oblivion engine


Are You Serious Mind Is Full Of Fuck

id Tech5 is good for making landscape vistas but it sucks in general. Rolling Eyes

It sucks when you approach things from up close.
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zellar




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 00:23    Post subject:
Hey is the voice of Captain Marshall the same voice actor who did the lead guy in Bulletstorm????? Fuckin' sounds just like him!!!


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 00:29    Post subject:
VizoR wrote:
tonizito wrote:
Sacrificing mods so the game would run in a mediocre engine like that?
No thanks. Vomit


valid point, i got really disappointed after i read this article
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/05/rage-to-ship-with-full-level-editor-id-studio/
and it turned out to be bs =/


shit is still coming out. hold your horses. Rolling Eyes


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I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 03:58    Post subject:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/news/2011/10/19/rage_gameplay_performance_image_quality



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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 04:12    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/news/2011/10/19/rage_gameplay_performance_image_quality



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Kyle's Thoughts

I want my damn money back.


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Raccoon




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 04:41    Post subject:
Those 'hardcore testing smartasses' were playing with forced 16x Aniso and claimed this was game's bug...

HardOCP wrote:
Here we can clearly see the odd discolored lines that appear on objects, terrain, and people. In this screenshot, we can see the lines all over the ground around the truck and on the rocks to the left.

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But I generally agree with that article.

After playing this game for a while now I have to say I don't like that engine. This whole in-game world is just dead. There's no physics interaction and almost every graphic effect is prebaked. It feels like moving through some kind of painting. (But gameplay isn't so bad. Enjoyable FPS. Smile)
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 10:49    Post subject:
Sorry if this is already discussed, but I have an issue in second hometown first quest called Mutant expansion. I need to plant 4 TNT on walls of blue line station, but I can plant only one. I double checked - I took TNT bundle with 4 bombs, but when I plant the first one, all next bomb sockets (blinking on the walls) are with red cross and I am not able to trigger the detonator. I restarted the whole quest twice. the same problem.
P.S I have 1.1 update, skidrow version. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
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russ80




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 11:09    Post subject:
Sheesh, when's that second update coming? The one where supposedly they use better upscaling so the textures will look sharper.

Getting bored of postponing and soon bf3+skyrim+sr3 = byebye other titles til diablo3.


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 11:24    Post subject:
Any sales numbers yet? How this game doing ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 12:26    Post subject:
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klans




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 13:19    Post subject:
any updates how to fix blue line station quest with 4 tnt bombs? can plant only 1
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zellar




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 13:48    Post subject:
The Bottom Line


If you are undaunted by the heaps of negative attention this game received at launch and you want to play RAGE anyway, you'll want to do so with an NVIDIA video card for the very best in performance and image quality. It ultimately matters very little as the difference in the gameplay experience was just not that pronounced, but NVIDIA GPUs gave us consistently higher performance even with less expensive video cards. The AMD video cards we used performed well too, but were simply outclassed. If you want to play RAGE on a budget, the Radeon HD 6870 and the GeForce GTX 560 Ti would be great choices. If your budget isn't so lean, pick any current-generation $200 USD+ video card and it's a good bet you'll get the best this game has to offer.

Wow, what a slap in the face of ATI owners....id makes terrible public choices....cash rules...sellout you pricks...Carmack choke on your textures and opengl....


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 13:56    Post subject:
Even better, AMD is currently choking on itself. First Bulldozer, 7xxx series to follow.

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 15:45    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Even better, AMD is currently choking on itself. First Bulldozer, 7xxx series to follow.

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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 15:58    Post subject:
Yeah because AMD's graphics cards lately have sucked big time
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:07    Post subject:
In fact, AMD wouldn't be afloat, were it not for the graphics division. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:35    Post subject:
I decided to give it another go after the first update and now new preview catatlyst is rlsed. They fixed most of the problems , but Im not satisfied how game performs and I can see slight texture pop ins. Sometimes game can lag and stutter..it's playable but still..

I really don't know what to do , to continue playing on 360 but with gamepad , or play it with kb and mouse and try to ignore game performance. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 16:51    Post subject:
@BLaM!: that's strange, before my 4870 imploded on itself the performance was good (50-60fps) and thanks to a custom config the annoying pop-in effect was greatly reduced (with almost no lag). Unfortunately I don't have it anymore since I formatted the PC a couple of days ago :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 17:54    Post subject:
When I enter new area it stutters a bit , and then it's smooth...new enemy coming on the screen lags a bit and then smooth again , it's really annoying. I only want smooth gameplay , slight texture pop in is not that bad.. I can only see it when I concentrate on one spot , when you running around it's barely noticeable. I give up , at least I will free 20gb space.. Laughing

And what card do you have now ? nvidia ? Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 18:01    Post subject:
I'm on a used 6600GT at the moment Laughing Very Happy

After several months I finally managed to collect enough money to order a new PC (i2500k/570gtx/8GB ram), it should arrive next week Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 18:14    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Yeah because AMD's graphics cards lately have sucked big time


Actually they have.

5xxx series sucking at tesselation, lots of driver issues with new games (Brink / Rage / BF3 beta) and others which i cba keep track of since it's not my main concern.

Lack of Physx but i guess that's more a thing that NVIDIA has as a plus.

The lack of awesome options like NVIDIA has being able to force AA in way more games than ATI via different AA flags + being able to force Ambient Occlusion in older games like HL2, SC2 and many others.

Not saying ATI cards are total crap, my old 4850 served me well but still. Doubt they'll ever catch up to NVIDIA again.
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2011 18:37    Post subject:
Wasn't aware of any serious driver issues in the BF3 beta. Of course, that being a beta, I wouldn't be able to tell you which of the issues were driver related Smile
Rage and Brink are based on pretty much the same tech. Also Rage worked great for me once the proper drivers were out (1 day late - the horror), I haven't played it in a while though.

Not sure what to say about AA flags.. never felt like I was missing out on something.

As for things that matter - performance, quality and price, I'd say AMD cards are at least on par with Nvidia, or really close.
You can have your preferences in terms of PhysX and 3D, but calling AMD cards a failure because of that is total nonsense.
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